Futuristic Nova One - OOC

[Daniel Reaving]

@Daniel reaving, I think that @SilverFlight is still waiting for edits from you that address the following:


But I could be wrong!

we talked and I edited it all as requested

 

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we talked and I edited it all as requested

I think that the main thing that issue was taken with was this passage:

Bio:


Growing up in a military family Edward grew up under harsh rules and hard training.  Going to a military school right off the bat with harsh drils and training there he also found out he was a genius. Graduating at the top of his class and Being embedded with the thoughts of war and battle throughout his young life he was first in line to join the army when his time came.


Taking every thing he could get to become the best, augments, DNA enhancements, cybernetics through military experiments and contracts he signed. He became perfect. Quickly climbing the ranks faster than any other in history till he got to his current rank. He did everything he could to be the best at everything. That's when he met them. Met the people that follow him. Three at first. Generally radical people that were in the military they took Edward in almost immediately and treated him like a brother but soon treated him more like a shoutout. Soon others were quick to follow him for reasons he didn't understand but didn't argue with it as more and more joined him. Later he had found out that the original three who were now calling themselves the order had been telling people he was a god. Sent from the heavens to bring the human race to the aliens beyhond. And they believed them. Like moths to a flame this idea of Edward being a god spread like wildfire till he had baciacly an army of people who believed. Beleived with every fiber of there soul that he was indeed a god


Then when they made contact with others he insisted the military send him and his "people". They did.... but before they could make contact with others he and his people disapered for before suddenly returning later. No one knows where they went but all they know is since then they have been colder and deadlier than before.


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Which runs into the following errors, to my understanding:


-- Contact with the wider galaxy was only made by humans in the year 2140, fifty years after the advent of interstellar travel (2090). The human envoy being sent over the course of the story is the first moment of extended contact with any lifeforms partaking in the Coalition; therefore, it would have been impossible for anyone to have been "sent" for dealings with any other lifeforms until the moment being played out at the beginning of our roleplay. Additionally, no contact has been made by humans with the Unknown Entity; the only information they will have on it is hearsay based on the Council's gathered information.


-- A great deal of diplomatic incidents would be caused by the humans sending a representative that, for all intents and purposes, is technically the figurehead of a cult. Not only would this not bode well for diplomatic relations with much more powerful and advanced beings, it would also likely result in dismissal from the mission, considering that someone with that sort of influence would be an unknown variable, and a potential threat. As a result, it would likely be best if he severed ties in some form to the remainder of his "organization," even falsely, in order to gain the trust of both human governments, and galactic governments.

 

[Daniel Reaving]

I think that the main thing that issue was taken with was this passage:


Which runs into the following errors, to my understanding:


-- Contact with the wider galaxy was only made by humans in the year 2140, fifty years after the advent of interstellar travel (2090). The human envoy being sent over the course of the story is the first period of extended contact with any lifeforms partaking in the Coalition; therefore, it would have been impossible for anyone to have been "sent" for dealings with any other lifeforms until the moment being played out at the beginning of our roleplay. Additionally, no contact has been made by humans of the Unknown Entity; the only information they will have on it is hearsay based on the 


-- A great deal of diplomatic incidents would be caused by the humans sending a representative that, for all intents and purposes, is technically the figurehead of a cult. Not only would this not bode well for diplomatic relations with much more powerful and advanced beings, it would also likely result in dismissal from the mission, considering that someone with that sort of influence would be an unknown variable, and a potential threat. As a result, it would likely be best if he severed ties in some form to the remainder of his "organization," even falsely, in order to gain the trust of both human governments, and galactic governments.

And as I said we talked it over and it's all alright unless he hasn't let me know of something yet

 

[Daniel Reaving]

I'm sorry I haven't exactly had the best of days

 

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@Daniel reaving It's okay! We'll just have to see what Silver says, I'm sure everything will be fine.

 

[SilverFlight]

@_Line 213 @Tarmagon I love that you guys have basically run away with the ship design, it's so detailed! 


I wonder if we might add an Aulean research vessel to its complement? It would be very small, minimal fighting capabilities. If that's alright with @SilverFlight, of course.


Also, perhaps some time we could add descriptions of certain sections of the ship (e.g. bridge, mess hall, quarters, etc)? No rush, but I think it would be nice.

It is most certainly all right with me.

 

[SilverFlight]

@avira It's actually a matter of necessary evil, and Solia did this to try and get his mind off things, cause you know: Excitement over meeting a new race and all that. Also, Solia IS a high chancellor, and the representative for her species. She needs a security detail, and her brother is best suited for that with his track record. He's a notable combatant that's fought against hostile elements for years, so him being her guard was more of necessity than anything.

I could also add that ignoring or excluding a powerful political group is a sure fire way to cause major unrest with the supporters, this could have been a diplomatic decision too ^^

 

[SilverFlight]

Is it possible for my characters to keep their ship the Vulcan during the roleplay? 

I think we could work that in. :3

 

[SilverFlight]

@_Line 213


Regardless of his personal actions or status, He is still a fully capable combat individual, and considered one of the best (in regards to his species). He has held a pirate siege with only a poorly trained militia, and has almost two thousand successful operations under his belt. Add that, he is also the brother of the Ascended Representative, so those two technically go hand and hand. Like I said: Necessary evil.

What better individual to send in to explore an unknown force destroying things indiscriminately.

 

[SilverFlight]

@Andraus I guess so, I suppose I'm just a little confused as to why they couldn't get the next best thing with a more positive council outlook.

Fundamentally you would be right, but if the council did not perceive his movement a real threat (and as a council of hundreds of species, they likely don't) and if he would be checked by the other members of the crew, they would count the danger of interference negligible, which allows us to have some interesting character devo an interaction.

 

[SilverFlight]

Do we have no galactic common language, or most spoken language? One would assume that the meaning or designation in the most widely spoken language would be the default "meaning," while all others are approximated towards that definition as closely as individual languages would allow.


EDIT: Either that, or the language carrying the original meaning would be the language of the most influential founding culture / species.

I thought about that and decided to go for translators if only because it would take years for humans to learn a common language, and the language would be near useless on home planets where interspecies interaction is fairly uncommon.

 

[SilverFlight]

@_Line 213 @avira @SilverFlight


Just to clarify something, This started when the Coalition/Council began cracking down on their Biological Research and Defense Initiatives, both they cannot actively do on the scale they used too without violating Intergalactic Law. Outside of their race this might've not have been a large issue, but for the Ascended it has caused a lot of resentment, since their history revolves around both. Even Solia will admit it wasn't the finest hour for the Coalition, but she understands it's not without warrant. If something like this were to be abused, it could cause anything from total planetary devastation, to a species-wide genocide. She understands that perfectly well, which is why she is trying to allow research for guidelines and security measures, so that it can (albeit much slower and safer) continue legally.


That is something that Ascended like Mehrunes don't understand. They've done the things they have the same way without any issue for years, and they feel that they are in perfect control of it. The way they see it, the Coalition is merely halting progress, and that is something that the Ascended refuse to abide by. Not only that, but for criminals to get off scot free, due to the fact of either diplomatic immunity or some other reason, that is a slap in the face to the very morals of the Ascended, though Ascended like Solia understands that things like this cannot be solved with the barrel of a gun, and that they need more than just word of mouth and eye-witness accounts, they need hard evidence and due process.


You can see where Mehrune and Solia clearly divide on issues.

I wouldn't say they get off scott free, the inter galactic pirate rings and slavers as I said are fair game, but if a planet's social system involves castes where slaves exist that is the jurisdiction of the leaders of that planet. Whether they choose to let it persist is out of the council's hands.

 

[SilverFlight]

So we all good @SilverFlight

Daniel, I don't think you've changed anything we talked about.


Your personality section is still too short, you didn't alter the cult thing,  its still far too obvious (I said to turn the story into allegations so no one could prove the happenings), he cannot be chosen for a diplomatic mission is he is openly worshiped as a god in a cult, even if he had friends in government. You never explain how or why his 'people' vanish or why they started worshiping him, you gave me a great explanation in pm, put it in the text XD. 


So, I need you to go back to it. Sorry man.

 

[Andraus]

@SilverFlight Solia understands that, but its still an affront to their species morale code. Either way, a race needs to change how they handle things, and When the Council began cracking down on them but not these societies, that is when the Ascended felt that they were no longer deserving of their loyalty. One race is forced to change their society, but not another, one which is clearly more in the wrong? They see it as unfair treatment

 

[Daniel Reaving]

Daniel, I don't think you've changed anything we talked about.


Your personality section is still too short, you didn't alter the cult thing,  its still far too obvious (I said to turn the story into allegations so no one could prove the happenings), he cannot be chosen for a diplomatic mission is he is openly worshiped as a god in a cult, even if he had friends in government. You never explain how or why his 'people' vanish or why they started worshiping him, you gave me a great explanation in pm, put it in the text XD. 


So, I need you to go back to it. Sorry man.

Sorry

 

[zCrookedz]

Dang, its like looking away for a second and the OCC blows up XD


@Andraus love The Ascended race  I have a feeling  Solia and Uriel will get along very well with such similar cultures. 


Same with Cooper @_Line 213, he and Uriel can pursue the secrets of the stars XD. 

 

[Andraus]

@zCrookedz 


Their culture revolves around their philosophical belief system, which means they see the Universe and everything in it as a hostile and chaotic place, and that they must brave it and tame it. Are they evil people? Gods no, they are some of the most selfless people you'll meet. They often don't care about political ambition, and they are not tyrants, they hate tyrants. However, they also hate laws and social regulations that prevent them from continuing on with their cultural practices. Mehrunes is acting out because he believes the Coalition has already failed his people. Solia understands that unless they stand together, the hostile elements in this universe will destroy them all.

 

[SilverFlight]

@SilverFlight Solia understands that, but its still an affront to their species morale code. Either way, a race needs to change how they handle things, and When the Council began cracking down on them but not these societies, that is when the Ascended felt that they were no longer deserving of their loyalty. One race is forced to change their society, but not another, one which is clearly more in the wrong? They see it as unfair treatment

That was always granted. No worries. I'm sure Bretziz and Solia can have many an earnest discussion about it ^^

 

[zCrookedz]

@zCrookedz 


Their culture revolves around their philosophical belief system, which means they see the Universe and everything in it as a hostile and chaotic place, and that they must brave it and tame it. Are they evil people? Gods no, they are some of the most selfless people you'll meet. They often don't care about political ambition, and they are not tyrants, they hate tyrants. However, they also hate laws and social regulations that prevent them from continuing on with their cultural practices. Mehrunes is acting out because he believes the Coalition has already failed his people. Solia understands that unless they stand together, the hostile elements in this universe will destroy them all.

huh, maybe their cultures are a little more different that I originally thought. Their outlook on the universe is very different from the Patronus who do not wish to conquer or tame anything, but merely wish to study and find ways to promote living things advancement in the Universe. The Selflessness of The Ascended is relatable though, Patronus give their lives to their works for the betterment of the Universe. But their Order system they find to be necessary to keep things like what happened on earth from happening again. Their Darker sided cousins however would destroy every Political structure if it were up to them. 

 

[SilverFlight]

huh, maybe their cultures are a little more different that I originally thought. Their outlook on the universe is very different from the Patronus who do not wish to conquer or tame anything, but merely wish to study and find ways to promote living things advancement in the Universe. The Selflessness of The Ascended is relatable though, Patronus give their lives to their works for the betterment of the Universe. But their Order system they find to be necessary to keep things like what happened on earth from happening again. Their Darker sided cousins however would destroy every Political structure if it were up to them. 

I think you're right, the Ascended seem relatively utilitarian in their moral code, and will take it beyond the respect of political structure in place if they believe it to be of greater benefit to the most individual beings. Did I get that right @Andraus?


I'd say if we we're going DnD context, they'd be more of a chaotic good, whereas the council and likely the Patronus are lawful good.


The council's ultimate goal is balance, while respecting the autonomy and self-governance of each council race. If slavery is ingrained into a specific culture, then the council is obligated to respect it provided they do not expand into intergalactic endeavors involving other races in the trade. 


(and I have obviously been playing too many bioware games...)

 

[Andraus]

@SilverFlight


You gave me the potential to use this race in a new light, i am always interested to try. Solia is a very open minded individual, but Mehrunes is a career militant. Thing is, they both sre charismatic, and due to the current deadlock and inaction of the council, they see Mehrunes as the one that actually accomplishes anything.


Were Mehrunes to drop his personal vendetta, he could be a great asset to the coalition if he tried. He is not a criminal, and is a strong believer in justice and equality. As of right now, though, he is using this skill to destabilize the coalition, which is bad.


@zCrookedz


I used it as an abstract term. When i said that, i meant they feel as if they must prepare themselves for the worst, hence their biology. They wanted to adapt to the rest of the universe.

 

[SilverFlight]

@Andraus Your characters are good btw, both accepted. I would say however that if you ever felt like adding more to personality later, you are definitely welcome to do so.

 

[Andraus]

@SilverFlight


As far as being being utilitarian, you'd be dead on with that. Its why they tend to fargo due process in certain situations (murder, slavery, research). If it benefits the society as a whole, they dont care if a minority like the coalition council disagrees. Its a matter of doing what is just rather than what is accepted

 

[SilverFlight]

@SilverFlight


As far as being being utilitarian, you'd be dead on with that. Its why they tend to fargo due process in certain situations (murder, slavery, research). If it benefits the society as a whole, they dont care if a minority like the coalition council disagrees. Its a matter of doing what is just rather than what is accepted

Huray!


My moral philosophy course was useful!

 

[zCrookedz]

I think you're right, the Ascended seem relatively utilitarian in their moral code, and will take it beyond the respect of political structure in place if they believe it to be of greater benefit to the most individual beings. Did I get that right @Andraus?


I'd say if we we're going DnD context, they'd be more of a chaotic good, whereas the council and likely the Patronus are lawful good.


The council's ultimate goal is balance, while respecting the autonomy and self-governance of each council race. If slavery is ingrained into a specific culture, then the council is obligated to respect it provided they do not expand into intergalactic endeavors involving other races in the trade. 


(and I have obviously been playing too many bioware games...)

absolutely. I can completely agree with the Lawfull Good imagery for the Patronus. They are Angels after all lol. XD

I used it as an abstract term. When i said that, i meant they feel as if they must prepare themselves for the worst, hence their biology. They wanted to adapt to the rest of the universe.

 Ah, I gotcha. I can understand that. Totally makes sense with their ability to adapt.