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I guess the question I have as far as this goes is why would the Council agree to have him on the mission?
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I guess the question I have as far as this goes is why would the Council agree to have him on the mission?
Andraus
The last survivor of the Freelands
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Regardless of his personal actions or status, He is still a fully capable combat individual, and considered one of the best (in regards to his species). He has held a pirate siege with only a poorly trained militia, and has almost two thousand successful operations under his belt. Add that, he is also the brother of the Ascended Representative, so those two technically go hand and hand. Like I said: Necessary evil.
Regardless of his personal actions or status, He is still a fully capable combat individual, and considered one of the best (in regards to his species). He has held a pirate siege with only a poorly trained militia, and has almost two thousand successful operations under his belt. Add that, he is also the brother of the Ascended Representative, so those two technically go hand and hand. Like I said: Necessary evil.
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Andraus
The last survivor of the Freelands
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It's a matter of how their species works. Public opinion of the Council is actually very low in regards of positive opinion. Two of their most major elements, which is genetic research and military elements, have been heavily restricted. This has been seen as an affront to many in the Ascended, but it's also the fact that they're preventing them from taking action against elements of clearly criminal nature, as doing so would lead to war. Finding someone with a positive outlook is actually very difficult in the current climate, Solia being one of four individuals among the Ascended High Council to actually favor supporting the Coalition.
On the other hand, Let me put it this way: The Ascended have a very close knit family system, that much is obvious. Even if they disagree on political matters, they still love eachother dearly. That being said, Solia is one of the main reasons that the Ascended have not voted in favor of secession, so her safety is paramount, and even if it meant that they'd favor secession, Mehrunes would die before he would willingly allow something to happen to his sister, the same would be said about the race in general.
It's a matter of how their species works. Public opinion of the Council is actually very low in regards of positive opinion. Two of their most major elements, which is genetic research and military elements, have been heavily restricted. This has been seen as an affront to many in the Ascended, but it's also the fact that they're preventing them from taking action against elements of clearly criminal nature, as doing so would lead to war. Finding someone with a positive outlook is actually very difficult in the current climate, Solia being one of four individuals among the Ascended High Council to actually favor supporting the Coalition.
On the other hand, Let me put it this way: The Ascended have a very close knit family system, that much is obvious. Even if they disagree on political matters, they still love eachother dearly. That being said, Solia is one of the main reasons that the Ascended have not voted in favor of secession, so her safety is paramount, and even if it meant that they'd favor secession, Mehrunes would die before he would willingly allow something to happen to his sister, the same would be said about the race in general.
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avira
mischief managed
What, exactly, do we call this intergalactic diplomatic body we have? Just, the Council? Or is there some larger name? Like the Federation of XYZ or Universal Organization blah blah or whatever?
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@avira I've called it the Interspecies Council a few times, unless @SilverFlight has something, maybe that's simple enough to work?
Galactic Interspecies Council seems to have a nice ring to it as well.
Galactic Interspecies Council seems to have a nice ring to it as well.
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Tarmagon
Murphy was an optimist.
I imagine that each species translator gives it a different title based on racial language preferences. That's why Kthara will always use Council when talking about the overall body, but use council or counselors when referring to sub committees or individuals.
Tarmagon
Murphy was an optimist.
Neutral and curious until and unless something changes his mind. He will have opinions about the race overall, but will maintain a professional face unless confronted. He has certain ideas about some races, but as a newer generation, he tries, not always successfully, to judge the individual. The rest, we shall just have to wait and RP.
avira
mischief managed
@Tarmagon I made one of my species develop the Universal Translator Chip that includes all the council races, specifically because I thought of this problem. It definitely takes some things and makes them species specific (like my Aule'wae will sound a little French to humans, you can pick what you like for your races towards other races), but I can also get behind the idea that each species made their own translators. It's really up to the group!
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Andraus
The last survivor of the Freelands
@avira I can guarantee this: If the Council races learned what exactly was the training gauntlet for high-value operatives is exactly, they'd sanction my race more.
They receive ten years of standard combat training, as per norm, but on the tenth year, they are sent to survive on a hostile planet they originally engineered to try and kill them, surviving on supply drops that came only once a week. Each supply drop did not always contain complete weapons or armaments. It gave supplies to craft their own, or blue prints. This both improved self-sufficiency, and how to use unorthodox methods of combat (aka, why my guy fights with a sword: He actually forged it during his trial, and it became a badge of honor). It's meant to show what happens in no mans land or war zones, where supplies are scarce and everything is trying to kill you.
Those that excelled survived and got resupplied.
Those that didn't....died.
They receive ten years of standard combat training, as per norm, but on the tenth year, they are sent to survive on a hostile planet they originally engineered to try and kill them, surviving on supply drops that came only once a week. Each supply drop did not always contain complete weapons or armaments. It gave supplies to craft their own, or blue prints. This both improved self-sufficiency, and how to use unorthodox methods of combat (aka, why my guy fights with a sword: He actually forged it during his trial, and it became a badge of honor). It's meant to show what happens in no mans land or war zones, where supplies are scarce and everything is trying to kill you.
Those that excelled survived and got resupplied.
Those that didn't....died.
Tarmagon
Murphy was an optimist.
Is not that. Remember, things don't translate on a word to word basis. Your race probably won't have a translation for chofaki, which is an insult in Valknir and based on a cowardly animal on their home world. What Kthara is actually saying would be along the lines of "Khaniklin'in shi varthima" which would translate to "Siblings in honor of the Council of the Khante" which your translator would most simply parse as Council.
A true universal translator is impossible, so your chip will be finding the closest analog in the speakers language to the language of the listener. It's a species language thing.
A true universal translator is impossible, so your chip will be finding the closest analog in the speakers language to the language of the listener. It's a species language thing.
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Do we have no galactic common language, or most spoken language? One would assume that the meaning or designation in the most widely spoken language would be the default "meaning," while all others are approximated towards that definition as closely as individual languages would allow.
EDIT: Either that, or the language carrying the original meaning would be the language of the most influential founding culture / species.
EDIT: Either that, or the language carrying the original meaning would be the language of the most influential founding culture / species.
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avira
mischief managed
@Tarmagon I totally agree and see what you mean. My character doesn't use an automatic translator, as she likes to learn and practice languages she's familiar with herself. I'm pretty excited for her to ask other characters meanings of specific words.
At any rate, anyone here is welcome to have their species/character use the standard Aulean ULT if they like!
At any rate, anyone here is welcome to have their species/character use the standard Aulean ULT if they like!
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Tarmagon
Murphy was an optimist.
Kthara uses an earplug with the translator chip. It's a racial thing with Valknir not to modify their bodies unless they are severely injured.
avira
mischief managed
I almost feel bad for anyone who hasn't been able to keep up with all the posts today, lol.
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(Which reminds me that some of us should refocus our posting efforts towards the IC thread, hohohoho)
Andraus
The last survivor of the Freelands
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Just to clarify something, This started when the Coalition/Council began cracking down on their Biological Research and Defense Initiatives, both they cannot actively do on the scale they used too without violating Intergalactic Law. Outside of their race this might've not have been a large issue, but for the Ascended it has caused a lot of resentment, since their history revolves around both. Even Solia will admit it wasn't the finest hour for the Coalition, but she understands it's not without warrant. If something like this were to be abused, it could cause anything from total planetary devastation, to a species-wide genocide. She understands that perfectly well, which is why she is trying to allow research for guidelines and security measures, so that it can (albeit much slower and safer) continue legally.
That is something that Ascended like Mehrunes don't understand. They've done the things they have the same way without any issue for years, and they feel that they are in perfect control of it. The way they see it, the Coalition is merely halting progress, and that is something that the Ascended refuse to abide by. Not only that, but for criminals to get off scot free, due to the fact of either diplomatic immunity or some other reason, that is a slap in the face to the very morals of the Ascended, though Ascended like Solia understands that things like this cannot be solved with the barrel of a gun, and that they need more than just word of mouth and eye-witness accounts, they need hard evidence and due process.
You can see where Mehrune and Solia clearly divide on issues.
Just to clarify something, This started when the Coalition/Council began cracking down on their Biological Research and Defense Initiatives, both they cannot actively do on the scale they used too without violating Intergalactic Law. Outside of their race this might've not have been a large issue, but for the Ascended it has caused a lot of resentment, since their history revolves around both. Even Solia will admit it wasn't the finest hour for the Coalition, but she understands it's not without warrant. If something like this were to be abused, it could cause anything from total planetary devastation, to a species-wide genocide. She understands that perfectly well, which is why she is trying to allow research for guidelines and security measures, so that it can (albeit much slower and safer) continue legally.
That is something that Ascended like Mehrunes don't understand. They've done the things they have the same way without any issue for years, and they feel that they are in perfect control of it. The way they see it, the Coalition is merely halting progress, and that is something that the Ascended refuse to abide by. Not only that, but for criminals to get off scot free, due to the fact of either diplomatic immunity or some other reason, that is a slap in the face to the very morals of the Ascended, though Ascended like Solia understands that things like this cannot be solved with the barrel of a gun, and that they need more than just word of mouth and eye-witness accounts, they need hard evidence and due process.
You can see where Mehrune and Solia clearly divide on issues.
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avira
mischief managed
Side note - @_Line 213, I tried to send you a PM earlier but dunno if you got it. The "To" field of the PM doesn't seem to like underscores, lol.
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@avira Whoops, doesn't look like I did. Seems like I picked one of those hard-to-deal-with usernames!
I've gotten PMs from people before, so I know that I can get them, but I don't really know how you'd get them to me if the underscore is an issue. Oh dear.
I've gotten PMs from people before, so I know that I can get them, but I don't really know how you'd get them to me if the underscore is an issue. Oh dear.
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Daniel Reaving
Thirty Thousand Club
So we all good @SilverFlight
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@Daniel reaving, I think that @SilverFlight is still waiting for edits from you that address the following:
But I could be wrong!
But I could be wrong!
