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you know i wonder who is the oldest god in the rp if you count reincarnations as new lives

Shorn as a God of Despair & Disdain only takes up 133 years, and his time spent as a God of Loyalty & Oaths would have been at the very least since the 1500s. So, Shorn's overall age would probably be roughly around 1200 years when you factor in time before his history on the character sheet.

Since Camulous isn't in the Roleplay yet, I don't think he counts. However, based on research surrounding his origin point, I've narrowed a time frame of 200 BC to 100 AD. So, he's among that 2000+ crowd if you take the BC time into account.

Based on what I've seen, I think Azani may be the oldest player character we have. While, if we take everything into account I'd lean towards one of the NPCs taking the actual title of oldest.

 

[Karcen]

depends on which NPC have had a reincarnation as while amaterasu as an npc would match azani due to being reborn she doesn't the moon god might the there, but most gods died at least once way back when when shinto was really starting up

 

[Fill]

Hah boomers

 

[QuirkyAngel]

you know i wonder who is the oldest god in the rp if you count reincarnations as new lives

Hands down Izanami. Was around since before Japan was created and I'm pretty sure she can't die.

 

[Karcen]

Hands down Izanami. Was around since before Japan was created and I'm pretty sure she can't die.

technically she is already dead thats why she is in yomi though she is oldest in her current form so fair enough there

 

[Fill]

To be young and bold is the way.
Also, Karcen, you mind if Nomoto met the Madness Phantom or no? Just asking so I can decide whether to post for that interaction or just have Nomoto do his own thing?

 

[Karcen]

izanagi would be older but he seems to have left existence

 

[Karcen]

To be young and bold is the way.
Also, Karcen, you mind if Nomoto met the Madness Phantom or no? Just asking so I can decide whether to post for that interaction or just have Nomoto do his own thing?

sure he can have met her though if you do i would request he have not realized she was a phantom for a bit it is her special power to hide her nature. it is how she has kidnapped a god not sure why he isn;t teleporting away but well he isn't the best god he dosen't even have any domains.

 

[Fill]

sure he can have met her though if you do i would request he have not realized she was a phantom for a bit it is her special power to hide her nature. it is how she has kidnapped a god

Neat. Although, if she tries anything really tricky on him, he’s got a few tricks of his own haha

 

[Karcen]

no problem not sure what she might do

 

[Fill]

Yeah, this is how Nomoto gets blighted. Inari is going to laugh over his grave.

 

[Karcen]

Yeah, this is how Nomoto gets blighted. Inari is going to laugh over his grave.

killing him with blight would be a waste far more fun to drive him mad

 

[Fill]

How do you know he isn’t already? After all, there is a fine line between madness and genius. And it’s quite astonishing how often the two seem to coincide.

 

[Karcen]

How do you know he isn’t already? After all, there is a fine line between madness and genius. And it’s quite astonishing how often the two seem to coincide.

not the madness she wants him to be, hehehe

 

[Fill]

But maybe she will still appreciate it all the same.

 

[Takumi98]

I unconsciously have Kaguya and Seiichi as close in age since both pretty much originated in the Heian period. Though idk the exact date for Kaguya specifically Seiichi is born around the 1010's-1020's iirc. I can't remember, tbh.

Kaguya reincarnated at least once so she technically doesn't count. I don't even want to try with the other god npcs age wise lol.

 

[QuirkyAngel]

izanagi would be older but he seems to have left existence

Izanagi exists as a goal Azani will never achieve.

Yeah, this is how Nomoto gets blighted. Inari is going to laugh over his grave.

She'd need to meet him to get a solid opinion of him.

I unconsciously have Kaguya and Seiichi as close in age since both pretty much originated in the Heian period. Though idk the exact date for Kaguya specifically Seiichi is born around the 1010's-1020's iirc. I can't remember, tbh.

Kaguya reincarnated at least once so she technically doesn't count. I don't even want to try with the other god npcs age wise lol.

I wonder which incarnation of Kaguya Tsukuyomi would've adopted

 

[Takumi98]

Izanagi exists as a goal Azani will never achieve.



She'd need to meet him to get a solid opinion of him.



I wonder which incarnation of Kaguya Tsukuyomi would've adopted

Kaguya now is much less reckless than her last incarnation and isn't as prone to too many emotional outbursts. When I was reading some of the things wiki had on her tale they mentioned she gave an elixir of immortality to the Emperor that he didn't take and had burned with her letter at Mount Fuji, which I thought was interesting. Idk 100% how'd the Heavens would feel about her just giving something like that to someone Emperor or not. I'd imagine they wouldn't of been too happy with it at the time tho.

 

[QuirkyAngel]

Kaguya now is much less reckless than her last incarnation and isn't as prone to too many emotional outbursts. When I was reading some of the things wiki had on her tale they mentioned she gave an elixir of immortality to the Emperor that he didn't take and had burned with her letter at Mount Fuji, which I thought was interesting. Idk 100% how'd the Heavens would feel about her just giving something like that to someone Emperor or not. I'd imagine they wouldn't of been too happy with it at the time tho.

I see. I guess he would've adopted her to raise the newly-reincarnated baby/child goddess after the Heavens punished her for that one.

No idea how the Heavens would feel about it either tbh, though I suppose it would depend on the nature of the crime and Heaven's stance at the time. Did she steal the Elixir of Immortality from Heaven's vaults or did she create it? They seem to dislike Yato's Father's version of immortality, so I don't imagine they would be happy with another human's god-granted immortality either...though Father did a lot more bad things to get himself on Heaven's kill list than just evade death =P But yeah, I do imagine immortality for humans would defy the natural order/law that Heaven (as I imagine it) tries to safeguard.

 

[Takumi98]

I see. I guess he would've adopted her to raise the newly-reincarnated baby/child goddess after the Heavens punished her for that one.

No idea how the Heavens would feel about it either tbh, though I suppose it would depend on the nature of the crime and Heaven's stance at the time. Did she steal the Elixir of Immortality from Heaven's vaults or did she create it? They seem to dislike Yato's Father's version of immortality, so I don't imagine they would be happy with another human's god-granted immortality either...though Father did a lot more bad things to get himself on Heaven's kill list than just evade death =P But yeah, I do imagine immortality for humans would defy the natural order/law that Heaven (as I imagine it) tries to safeguard.

I feel like her stealing it from the Heaven's vault would definitely have lead to some form of punishment.

 

[Fill]

Stealing? Dang. Nomoto would have helped with that.

 

[Fill]

QuirkyAngel I’m changing the wish to something simpler and more tied to my character. The history will be changed slightly to reflect that.

Nothing serious. The wish was to save the shrine and the worshipper’s friends/fellow worshippers from the AFAH and the phantoms trying to destroy it. While I’m keeping specific details to myself, it more closely ties to why he is the god of certain domains than before. You can look over it again but it’s minor differences.

 

[Fill]

QuirkyAngel just came to mind, but I had another idea for ability for Nomoto. Nothing major just that he can unlock any lock with exception to anything locked or keyed by other gods or certain phantoms and he can teleport small objects to himself except regalia and, you guessed it!, god owned or blessed items. Just thought these would be neat thieving abilities since his teleport is limited. This is slightly inspired by konosuba. Just popped into my head.

just let me know if these are okay to add. Just stuff I thought would be neat.

 

[QuirkyAngel]

QuirkyAngel I’m changing the wish to something simpler and more tied to my character. The history will be changed slightly to reflect that.

Nothing serious. The wish was to save the shrine and the worshipper’s friends/fellow worshippers from the AFAH and the phantoms trying to destroy it. While I’m keeping specific details to myself, it more closely ties to why he is the god of certain domains than before. You can look over it again but it’s minor differences.

Re-reading everything with a clearer mind from yesterday =P Honestly, I love how he's a defied human with ties the doings of AFAH. Makes him very uniquely tied to the story (and we don't have a player character do that yet^^). My general idea for a human being a god after they die is that shrine was built for them, but a wish from an especially strong spiritual human could certainly make him a god if that human wanted it.

I'm gonna guess he was burned to death by AFAH terrorists.

QuirkyAngel just came to mind, but I had another idea for ability for Nomoto. Nothing major just that he can unlock any lock with exception to anything locked or keyed by other gods or certain phantoms and he can teleport small objects to himself except regalia and, you guessed it!, god owned or blessed items. Just thought these would be neat thieving abilities since his teleport is limited. This is slightly inspired by konosuba. Just popped into my head.

just let me know if these are okay to add. Just stuff I thought would be neat.

This is fine, but after looking him over, I want the abilities he possesses as a god to be tied to his life as a human.

Thieving abilities? Did he have especially nifty fingers when he was human? Riding skill? Was he a good driver when he was alive? Snake charmer? I'm guessing he was a fan of snakes lol. It'd make more sense to me, given all of his diverse abilities, that he became a super version of his old self after becoming a god.

 

[QuirkyAngel]

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Also, while I don't actually have an issue with Nomoto's abilities, and actually endorse creativity when it comes to designing a god (it's not like Noragami ever specified and every god is unique~), it's best to keep in mind, when coming up with abilities, that the most major and consistent theme when it comes to Noragami gods come from their ability to name regalias, which they do to perform their respective "jobs". Kofuku mainly spreads poverty through the use of her sacred treasure Kokki which concentrates gloom enough to create a hole to the underworld. Yato's named regalias become blades because he's a "culling god". Basically, Nomoto fits better into Noragami lore if his abilities come from his regalias (like one of them is a key that unlocks all locks ). That said, I understand that, personality-wise, his character isn't one to just name regalias, and I do imagine that gods would have the spiritual energy capable of all sorts of mystics should they be trained (at the very least, way more than any spiritual human is capable of).This is also a sandbox rp. As long as it's not OP, I'm fine with you developing your character how you wish in it while you tell his story. The above is simply a possible explanation to his diverse supernatural skillsets as compared to a god like, say, Yato whose main thing was that he was born able to fight (very well) as a kid. That said, if you have anything else that could explain it better, feel free to go with that instead.

But it has been set (rp lore-wise by Azani), that's a god's innate abilities are influenced by the wishes/beliefs of humans. So if his power(s) don't come from the faith of his worshippers, it's the faith/wish of the guy that made him a god.