QuirkyAngel
White Masquerade's Blue Oni
...interesting. There is much of the lore I do not know since I've only watched Fate/Zero, part of Fate/Stay, and a bit of Acrypha
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...interesting. There is much of the lore I do not know since I've only watched Fate/Zero, part of Fate/Stay, and a bit of Acrypha
The One Eyed Bandit
rotworm
Iskandar
Existing.
Fate/Zero is still the best one
QuirkyAngel
White Masquerade's Blue Oni
It's what first hooked me to the series. Though all the other ones I've watched after don't really compare imo.
Xel
The Paladin
In fate rps I try to basically copy F/Z since that was the only actual real, proper war we've ever seen. Not only that but the format of every team being an MC fits RP better than FSN style. Every Fate story (and rp it seems like) breaks the rules and does whatever, all I want is a traditional war like in F/Z
Iskandar
Existing.
Fate/Stay Night UBW is decent. Fate/Extra LE is okay, much better than Apoc imo
QuirkyAngel
White Masquerade's Blue Oni
I'll give it a try I guess. Tho it just sounds like a remake of Fate/Stay original.
In fate rps I try to basically copy F/Z since that was the only actual real, proper war we've ever seen. Not only that but the format of every team being an MC fits RP better than FSN style. Every Fate story (and rp it seems like) breaks the rules and does whatever, all I want is a traditional war like in F/Z
That's what what I want. A war with plenty of drama.
Though I think I'll have fun having Caster try to teach Eli magecraft so he doesn't die.
The One Eyed Bandit
rotworm
QuirkyAngel
White Masquerade's Blue Oni
The 'bad joke' just keeps getting worse and worse I see.
Xel
The Paladin
It's fine. I knew I couldn't trust you. That's why Saber is the way she is
The One Eyed Bandit
rotworm
It's fine. I knew I couldn't trust you. That's why Saber is the way she is
Iskandar
Existing.
QuirkyAngel
You watched the original FSN? Grossssss. Fate/Stay Night UBW focuses on a different route is much better
Lucem
Ten Thousand Club
Nasu keeps playing around with that rule when writing for Grand Order, so it just makes things more confusing.
UBW does have stuff in common with the first anime adaptation, but it has its own story to follow, since it's a new route. If you have the time, I reccomend reading the visual novel. I think it's the best way to get the story and all the lore you need.
Caster will need more patience than the God he worships.
QuirkyAngel
White Masquerade's Blue Oni
I got bored part way through and couldn't finish it.
I'll take your word for it.
The One Eyed Bandit
rotworm
I still can't stomach Saber X Shirou.
I believe Chaldea summonings just allow memories universally, but I'm not sure.
Xel
The Paladin
Grand Order operates on an entirely different ruleset from a Holy Grail War. That's why I disagree with anyone citing it as a source for a HGW RP. Same for the Mooncell in Extra. The only wars that operate off the HGW ruleset are F/Z, FSN, and Apocrypha (with some tweaks). Anything else is it's own unique system.
QuirkyAngel
White Masquerade's Blue Oni
If the Grail War has so many unique systems, the question then is, which is the real one?
Xel
The Paladin
F/Z and FSN are the only real proper wars. Everything else is a spin-off system derived from this original system.
Lucem
Ten Thousand Club
Saber isn't bad, but I still enjoy Rin the most.
I'm not sure what happens beyond America because of the two year gap, but Liz seems to remember other singularities even without being summoned by Chaldea, but that could be because of the grail.
Since Nasu approves of it, I'm fine with people doing that if they want. Since parallel worlds and other stuff have been established, I don't worry about it too much.
The original system is the standard seven masters and servants, but it changes depending on what material you're going through. For example, Fate/Extra is just the Matrix.
Xel
The Paladin
I don't mind people do it within the proper setting, like that FGO RP that recently started up. I just dislike it when people try to blend all the systems together to accomodate what they want. A Fate RP follows a specific system, even if things go awry (it's Fate, they always go awry) you're still operating within that system. A normal grail war should never have ruler as an example. It's all approved by Nasu, it's all canon, but it's all separate as different universes and thus shouldn't be conflated.
After all, if I wanted to play FGO, or Apocrypha, or Extra, I'd have joined a RP for those.
QuirkyAngel
White Masquerade's Blue Oni
Except this grail war was screwy from the start.
I'm okay with blends as long as certain concepts are kept to. Rps, imo, ought have a bit flexibility to accomodate so every player involved can be at least somewhat satisfied. Might because I like fitting pieces together and I don't have deep knowledge of the Naruverse. If it can make sorta sense, I'll buy it. Ruler summoned to a normal grail war might be a little odd, but it's not an impossibility.
Xel
The Paladin
I knew from the getgo this isn't a proper war, but there's still degrees to what I'll accept. As proper war or not it's still founded on the principals of a normal war, as a normal war was what was originally going to take place. Basically it's the same sort of thing as Apocrypha. The foundation is a normal HGW, just something went wonky and you got something different. It's still fundamentally different from something like FGO's chaldea system though. Currently the level of differences are firmly in the realm of "we took the normal system but then acted like dicks so now it's different". Most of the changes so far aren't even mechanical changes to the war itself anyways. The market place, the new masters, the changes in rules, these are all just the governance of the war rather than the war itself. Nothing about the actual rules of the ritual have been changed. We don't have 6 command seals each, we don't have 2 servants per master, we don't have a ruler, we don't have anything that actually changes the grail's rules. We only change the Church's rules.
The only thing that changes the grail's rules is the memory thing, which is why I'm a stickler and don't like it and wont participate in it. Besides, aint like there's anything to be gained from that since there AREN'T past wars to draw from anyways.
QuirkyAngel
White Masquerade's Blue Oni
Admittedly I wrote it since I wasn't aware Servants were just copies/familiars with no memories (and no one pointed it out until now <.<) It just sounded right when I was writing. I'd do the edits, but I'm too lazy to re-read all I wrote, and his bits of memory don't really do anything but add entertaining fluff anyway.
If Masters start killing Masters this may change.
QuirkyAngel
White Masquerade's Blue Oni
The one thing I've noticed is that the items in the Master's market seems quite expensive for Bandit to expect any players to buy.
Xel
The Paladin
I mean, I probably misread it since I took it as him just operating on general grail war knowledge that all servants have and any specific memories were from when he was actually alive. I didn't take it as him being present in past wars and remembering them, which is why I never said anything.
It's also not something I'd kick up much a fuss about anyways since it's largely irrelevant. Like, there are no past wars to pull from. So if I tried to say Saber remembered a past war it'd be 100% fictional bullshit I made up on the spot with no real depth or meaning. Nothing would change regardless of whether I say she remembers or doesn't, whether she even was in a past war or not. All we know from the opening post is this war is set after the Fuyuki wars, for all we know this could be the sixth war in which case the odds of being summoned in a past war are extremely low even if we discard canon servants since that's a maximum of 35 unique servants being summoned prior to this war. With how many possible servants there are the odds of being summoned are extremely low. So ultimately it ends up being easier to just act as if nothing's changed and Saber has no memories because she's never been in a war prior to this one anyways.
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