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"Very noble intentions."Akio said:Im actually looking forward to see if Caydens fairly noble intentions and ideals will eventually get corrupted
If you consider death and destruction to hundreds of thousands of lives noble.
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"Very noble intentions."Akio said:Im actually looking forward to see if Caydens fairly noble intentions and ideals will eventually get corrupted
Maybe it is, sometimes i like playing a bad guySirDerpingtonIV said:It almost sounds like an invitation
Theres almost no way to stop this warLancelot said:"Very noble intentions."
If you consider death and destruction to hundreds of thousands of lives noble.
Says the fucking iron born.Lancelot said:"Very noble intentions."
If you consider death and destruction to hundreds of thousands of lives noble.
And we admired criticisms from men whose only responsibilities is the same one they've told others for centuries, without understanding the pressures and pressing matters that comes with trying to hold a region together while two houses are actively working to depose you. We'll start paying attention to Hightower's ideals and opinions when they've successfully rule Reach for a century or so, with a civil war or two in there somewhere.Lancelot said:Its quite difficult to plead to an absent liege, and it doesn't help that those covering for him are a bunch of warmongerers.
But I admire the Lannister tactic of deflecting criticism by trying to nitpick out criticisms of the accuser as much as they can, quite hard to send a letter to the Lannisters in the current environment too.
Hey I am not speaking for Siegfried!SirDerpingtonIV said:Says the fucking iron born.
No way to stop a war you will be literally the cause of? Is Daenna being forced to press her claim or something?Akio said:Maybe it is, sometimes i like playing a bad guy
Theres almost no way to stop this war
Because this war was about Daenna. Shes just the only leader who he believes will rule well. Kuriva is arrogant and a little insane, Brandeon is mopey and more obsessed with vengeance then anything else, and Viserys is a warmongerLancelot said:Hey I am not speaking for Siegfried!
No way to stop a war you will be literally the cause of? Is Daenna being forced to press her claim or something?
Ever heard of the Dance of the Dragons? The Hightowers had quite a large part in that civil war, and a smaller but important part in the Blackfyre rebellion.WanderingJester said:And we admired criticisms from men whose only responsibilities is the same one they've told others for centuries, without understanding the pressures and pressing matters that comes with trying to hold a region together while two houses are actively working to depose you. We'll start paying attention to Hightower's ideals and opinions when they've successfully rule Reach for a century or so, with a civil war or two in there somewhere.
I don't think you would be as happy as you think...SirDerpingtonIV said:Also to be fully honest I am not against Siegfried as King. I feel like having Haelga be "imprisoned" again would be pretty interesting. Sit around in Pyke until the angry Greenlanders knock the whole place down.
And Daenna is what, a spoiled teenager thinking she would make the best ruler? If anyone is arrogant and a war mongerer it is her, she could be Queen of Ibben.Akio said:Because this war was about Daenna. Shes just the only leader who he believes will rule well. Kuriva is arrogant and a little insane, Brandeon is mopey and more obsessed with vengeance then anything else, and Viserys is a warmonger
Probably not, but Vuaghan would flip shit if harm came to her. And there are quite a few ironborn already wanting him to lead them so he cleaely holds some sway.Lancelot said:I don't think you would be as happy as you think...
If people supported someone based on how they would rule in terms of quality we would all be rallying behind Haelga.Lancelot said:And Daenna is what, a spoiled teenager thinking she would make the best ruler? If anyone is arrogant and a war mongerer it is her, she could be Queen of Ibben.
Lets be honest, Cayden doesn't give a fuck about Ibben. She wants the Targ line to survive and return the land to peace. Her original reason for rebelling is because shes sure Kuriva is gonna end the Targ line with reckless ruleLancelot said:And Daenna is what, a spoiled teenager thinking she would make the best ruler? If anyone is arrogant and a war mongerer it is her, she could be Queen of Ibben.
You see. Stupidity doesn't always work in ways you want it to...SirDerpingtonIV said:Probably not, but Vuaghan would flip shit if harm came to her. And there are quite a few ironborn already wanting him to lead them so he cleaely holds some sway.
Well you're not wrong there. Enjoy the civil war then.Lancelot said:You see. Stupidity doesn't always work in ways you want it to...
Oh, I'm sorry, was Hightowers the ones leading the Seven Kingdoms during the Dance? No? That was my point. They never led a kingdom through a civil war, nor have they attempted to unify one after one. They know how to fight a civil war, which I assure you, is much the same as any war in regards to killing your opponents and forcing the other side's will to break first. So, once more, let us know when "Light the Way" is the motto of Reach for a 100 years, through a civil war, then perhaps we'll start paying attention to Oldtown and what they think about us.Lancelot said:Ever heard of the Dance of the Dragons? The Hightowers had quite a large part in that civil war, and a smaller but important part in the Blackfyre rebellion.
I assure you we know of civil war, also how is the citadel in Casterly Rock, oh wait...
Oh what about the second largest port, oh wait...
Funny how you are calling the Hightower inexperienced, we are among the oldest houses in Westeros, we are not called the Beacon of the South for no reason.
Wait until he meets Aerea!Akio said:Because this war was about Daenna. Shes just the only leader who he believes will rule well. Kuriva is arrogant and a little insane, Brandeon is mopey and more obsessed with vengeance then anything else, and Viserys is a warmonger
Shes even worse. If there was no war and other contenders he might have just planned to assassinate both of them and be done with itTheFordee14 said:Wait until he meets Aerea!
It seems the Lannisters throw the words "pride" and "arrogance" only when they aren't talking about themselves. The Greens were a prominently Hightower faction.WanderingJester said:Oh, I'm sorry, was Hightowers the ones leading the Seven Kingdoms during the Dance? No? That was my point. They never led a kingdom through a civil war, nor have they attempted to unify one after one. They know how to fight a civil war, which I assure you, is much the same as any war in regards to killing your opponents and forcing the other side's will to break first. So, once more, let us know when "Light the Way" is the motto of Reach for a 100 years, through a civil war, then perhaps we'll start paying attention to Oldtown and what they think about us.
Slavery is illegal here you fucking tard.TheAncientCenturion said:Hey. With Viserys we'll all get slaves and a good portion of the free cities.
Not Braavos though. Fuck them.
NOT ANYMORE!SirDerpingtonIV said:Slavery is illegal here you fucking tard.
B-but Thralls!SirDerpingtonIV said:Slavery is illegal here you fucking tard.
Thats the reason Cayden will betray Viserys even if there was no other contenderTheAncientCenturion said:NOT ANYMORE!