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[Mion]

I could link you to the wiki on Ibben and if i find my world of ice and fire book i could quote you some passages from it, im really into game of thrones and used to research it pretty extensively
Ibben

I have the World of Ice and Fire too... Still have to finish the targ kings though.

 

[Akio]

A lot of ibben's best warriors also serve in sell sword companies, in the show a few number of them served in the goats brave companions for roose bolton

 

[Akio]

I have the World of Ice and Fire too... Still have to finish the targ kings though.

Ive read that book 7 times

 

[Mion]

Ive read that book 7 times

I could never re-read something.

 

[Elendithas]

I'm failing to see where most standing armies they've had has been destroyed by the Dothraki, let alone how that would be possible since the Dothraki will not cross large bodies of water. Not seeing the whole slavers getting away with taking people either.

 

[Akio]

I'm failing to see where most standing armies they've had has been destroyed by the Dothraki, let alone how that would be possible since the Dothraki will not cross large bodies of water. Not seeing the whole slavers getting away with taking people either.

Ibben used to own a large section of Essos once owned by a race called the forest dwellers. For whatever reason the forest dwellers were one of those strange races the Dorthraki never sacked despite them hating killing of any kind. They were conqured by Ib and at one point Ib owned a sizeable part of Essos. But the dorthraki never had the same reverence and struck down all but one city of ib and that one city survives becuase its wooden wall is almost as tall as the wall separating the north and the lands of true winter. Ill get my book

 

[Mion]

I'm failing to see where most standing armies they've had has been destroyed by the Dothraki, let alone how that would be possible since the Dothraki will not cross large bodies of water. Not seeing the whole slavers getting away with taking people either.

I don't think that was his main point.


I think he was trying to say Ibben shouldn't have armies that large.

 

[Elendithas]

I'm not trying to argue a point here, I'm curious about where I can find more information on Ibben.

 

[Elendithas]

Ibben used to own a large section of Essos once owned by a race called the forest dwellers. For whatever reason the forest dwellers were one of those strange races the Dorthraki never sacked despite them hating killing of any kind. They were conqured by Ib and at one point Ib owned a sizeable part of Essos. But the dorthraki never had the same reverence and struck down all but one city of ib and that one city survives becuase its wooden wall is almost as tall as the wall separating the north and the lands of true winter. Ill get my book

I thought New Ibbish was the only inhabited land of Ibben off the main island, that and the Axe at times, but still. I get the feeling there's a bunch of information in The World of Ice and Fire that people haven't transferred to any of the wikis I've looked at, and I'm pretty sure I've exhausted most every wiki on information about Ibben.

 

[Akio]

I'm not trying to argue a point here, I'm curious about where I can find more information on Ibben.

for obvious reasons if you can find a book or online version of the world of ice and fire it offers the most detailed information about every topic and land in game of thrones including arrashi and essos as well Yi Ti, the bones, and so on

 

[Mion]

for obvious reasons if you can find a book or online version of the world of ice and fire it offers the most detailed information about every topic and land in game of thrones including arrashi and essos as well Yi Ti, the bones, and so on

By arrashi do you mean Asshai?

 

[Akio]

By arrashi do you mean Asshai?

Im bad with names and cant find my book ok xD

 

[Akio]

Honestly the book even has info on possible ice dragons as was argued earlier in the shimmering sea

 

[Akio]

@Elendithas Another thing making him suspicious is just crossing the narrow sea is several hundred miles and even farther from ibben, could take months to cross that distance so its a little unhelpful after wars end to do anything with each other

 

[Akio]

@Elendithas where did you get your information for the time it takes to sail?

 

[Elendithas]

Basing it on the fact that a mail ship from London to New York took two weeks longer than Falmouth, MA to New York, NY. Add in that the distance between Westeros and Ibben isn't quite three and a half thousand miles and that ships in this time weren't quite what they were in the eighteenth century and I feel two weeks for about two thousand miles of ocean is fair with a ship meant for fast travel and fair weather. I should add that all of my information came from Google and fading memories from history class, which I was fantastic in (Shameless gloating) .

 

[Akio]

Basing it on the fact that a mail ship from London to New York took two weeks longer than Falmouth, MA to New York, NY. Add in that the distance between Westeros and Ibben isn't quite three and a half thousand miles and that ships in this time weren't quite what they were in the eighteenth century and I feel two weeks for about two thousand miles of ocean is fair with a ship meant for fast travel and fair weather. I should add that all of my information came from Google and fading memories from history class, which I was fantastic in (Shameless gloating) .

I think your mistaken in a few things. First sailing ships from that age are much less advanced then you think they are. For example the round trip between Qarth and arrashi then back to the seven kingdoms is about two years for ordinary merchant ships. Now obviously Ib is a shorter trip though not by much. Now we cant send an ordinary small merchant ship to deliver royal decress and armies. We would be sending war galleys to protect messenger or escort armies like the one stannis took from the dragon stone. Now assuming that we skirt the coast to cut down on time, do not get attacked by corsairs which is a rampant problem or fall to the mercy of the wind getting there from kings landing takes about 3 months with no delays for messengers. For massive warfleets it takes much longer. The Iron Born might do it faster as could the swan ships of the summer isles but for the royal fleet 3 months is good time

 

[Akio]

Ib could debatably do it faster since while their ships are ugly things their tough and well made. It might take them 2 months

 

[TheAncientCelt]

To be fair, in ACOK it takes six months for news of Robert Baratheon's death to reach Dany. Those are trading ships that stop at ports constantly, and was a Westerosi ship that revealed as much. I'd wager an armada aiming not to stop at every lucrative port for trade might make better time.

 

[Akio]

To be fair, in ACOK it takes six months for news of Robert Baratheon's death to reach Dany. Those are trading ships that stop at ports constantly, and was a Westerosi ship that revealed as much. I'd wager an armada aiming not to stop at every lucrative port for trade might make better time.

That's why i cut that time in half and even messenger fleets will need to stop for fresh provisions as carrying 2 or 3 months of food to spoil on the way. They would be go of for fresh water but no way would they be able to bring enough good that doesent spoil or mold in the brisk sea aur

 

[Veyd Sahvoz]

Robert Baratheon....killed by a pig

 

[Elendithas]

I actually agree with both of you here. The only reasonable explanation for a trip that distance to take some two years is that the traders in fact had to stop and trade in certain places. Given they're trying to make good money, I would assume they don't stay at one port for an eight hour work day and then move on. However, just now looking at the distance between the UK and Finland, which is the comparison George made for the distance between Westeros and Ibben, I would say a sailing ship of the time dedicated to making it to its destination could go 1,200 miles in three weeks. Still, a war fleet would take much longer. I'll edit my post with updated travel times from Vance, since in character, he knows travel times pretty well.

 

[Akio]

I actually agree with both of you here. The only reasonable explanation for a trip that distance to take some two years is that the traders in fact had to stop and trade in certain places. Given they're trying to make good money, I would assume they don't stay at one port for an eight hour work day and then move on. However, just now looking at the distance between the UK and Finland, which is the comparison George made for the distance between Westeros and Ibben, I would say a sailing ship of the time dedicated to making it to its destination could go 1,200 miles in three weeks. Still, a war fleet would take much longer. I'll edit my post with updated travel times from Vance, since in character, he knows travel times pretty well.

My guy wants to be the next sea snake and snuck out when he was 12 to live on a ship for 6 months. He lives and breaths the sea

 

[Akio]

I actually agree with both of you here. The only reasonable explanation for a trip that distance to take some two years is that the traders in fact had to stop and trade in certain places. Given they're trying to make good money, I would assume they don't stay at one port for an eight hour work day and then move on. However, just now looking at the distance between the UK and Finland, which is the comparison George made for the distance between Westeros and Ibben, I would say a sailing ship of the time dedicated to making it to its destination could go 1,200 miles in three weeks. Still, a war fleet would take much longer. I'll edit my post with updated travel times from Vance, since in character, he knows travel times pretty well.

By the way i found a map to help us out

 

[Elendithas]

Is that accurate? Because GRR himself said Ibben was about the distance Finland is from the UK.