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[Akio]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Lancelot" data-cite="Lancelot" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="196356" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>The first time was a failure.<p>


The second time was a total victory... Lord Tyrell was made governor of Dorne but was later assassinated.</p>


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Assassinated which ended up in the young dragons death as well as 80000 men and dorne was free again</p>


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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Leusis" data-cite="Leusis" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="196356" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>The dornish also lost thousands of men, women and children when those armies came rolling in, they also lost all of their castles and every town or village that army came upon. They even managed to poison a shit load of their wells so now they're dealing with water shortage problems all over the region.<p>


That would be called a phyrric victory if I've ever seen one.</p>


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Wells clear themselves overtime if they're based in aquifers, so many civilians died because civilians assassinating soldiers on the street were not uncommon to the point even gangs of children were trying to pull soldiers off their horses and stab them. Then abandoned all those castles on purpose, though rebuilding, especially during the wroth of the dragon was probably really expensive</p>


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So pretty Phyrric but you do what you have to when facing an army triple your size</p>

 

[Mion]

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I think a lot will be explained at the meeting.</p>

 

[Akio]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Savagai" data-cite="Savagai" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="196356" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Why is there actually a fight going on (going to happen) and who is on whose side?</div></blockquote>


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Probably the reach vs Lannister and Dorne, Hightower alligence may fluctuate inbetween depending on viserys</p>

 

[Mion]

Assassinated which ended up in the young dragons death as well as 80000 men and dorne was free again
Wells clear themselves overtime if they're based in aquifers, so many civilians died because civilians assassinating soldiers on the street were not uncommon to the point even gangs of children were trying to pull soldiers off their horses and stab them. Then abandoned all those castles on purpose, though rebuilding, especially during the wroth of the dragon was probably really expensive


So pretty Phyrric but you do what you have to when facing an army triple your size

50000 good men died trying to help Dorne recover from fucking itself and what did they get in return?


Innocent civilians used as shields and weapons.

 

[Hypnos]

I really hope no one actually attacks Dorne with an army, if only because I'm already imagining the argument that is going to be taking place in OOC chat at the time.

 

[Savagai]

I think a lot will be explained at the meeting.

When will that be?

Probably the reach vs Lannister and Dorne, Hightower alligence may fluctuate inbetween depending on viserys

Who's going to win looking at the statistics?

 

[Akio]

"Victor" more like the Dornish crippling themselves so much the conquerors don't see them as worth it.

Except during the young dragons war 80000 men died including themselves, even more during Aegons attempted conquest and even lost a dragon and his sister, and his best friend lost his hand. Both wars ended weirdly though, with the letter Aegon got and Baelor peace agreement

50000 good men died trying to help Dorne recover from fucking itself and what did they get in return?
Innocent civilians used as shields and weapons.

Innocent? You act like the lords ordered them to fight, they did it themselves. Dorne is not fond of foreign invaders.

When will that be?
Who's going to win looking at the statistics?

Its pretty even if the hightowers stay on your side so it will depend completely on rp events with troop numbers basically even after all


If the Hightowers betray with Visery their good friends with the Florents and you got about zero chance in hell, outnumbered by at least 40000 at full muster

 

[Savagai]

Except during the young dragons war 80000 men died including themselves, even more during Aegons attempted conquest and even lost a dragon and his sister, and his best friend lost his hand. Both wars ended weirdly though, with the letter Aegon got and Baelor peace agreement
Innocent? You act like the lords ordered them to fight, they did it themselves. Dorne is not fond of foreign invaders.


Its pretty even if the hightowers stay on your side so it will depend completely on rp events with troop numbers basically even after all


If the Hightowers betray with Visery their good friends with the Florents and you got about zero chance in hell, outnumbered by at least 40000 at full muster

*sighs* Who is Hightower? Need to get him on my side soon as possible

 

[Mion]

Except during the young dragons war 80000 men died including themselves, even more during Aegons attempted conquest and even lost a dragon and his sister, and his best friend lost his hand. Both wars ended weirdly though, with the letter Aegon got and Baelor peace agreement
Innocent? You act like the lords ordered them to fight, they did it themselves. Dorne is not fond of foreign invaders.


Its pretty even if the hightowers stay on your side so it will depend completely on rp events with troop numbers basically even after all


If the Hightowers betray with Visery their good friends with the Florents and you got about zero chance in hell, outnumbered by at least 40000 at full muster

The Young Dragon lost 10000 in battle and 50000 in trying g to keep peace.


As for Aegons war the losses are unknown.

 

[Akio]

*sighs* Who is Hightower? Need to get him on my side soon as possible

They are on your side right now, and its not them you need to be friendly to, that would be Viserys who believes hes the one true king and wants alliance of the Tyrells to take the throne by betraying the current queen and putting themselves against Brandeon Bartheon

 

[Hypnos]

When will that be?
Who's going to win looking at the statistics?

If all the Lords of the Reach, the West and Dorne remain loyal (Which is unlikely) the Reach has 80,000 men and the West, Dorne and Tiber's Sellswords have 94,200.

 

[LittleWolfie]

Here's the thing to remember, Dorne is not spoken for by Cayden and as such their plans are not concrete at all

 

[Akio]

The Young Dragon lost 10000 in battle and 50000 in trying g to keep peace.
As for Aegons war the losses are unknown.

Fair enough, 60000 for the young dragon including himself


Probably more for Aegons war since its mentioned an entire Army of the reach disappeared into the desert along Oserys Bartheon getting captured with his army and every man in that group returned without hands and losing a sister and a dragon mid way.


Moral of the story, invading dorne is a bad idea because it doesnt last

If all the Lords of the Reach, the West and Dorne remain loyal (Which is unlikely) the Reach has 80,000 men and the West, Dorne and Tiber's Sellswords have 94,200.

The West has the best chance to suffer no rebellion, Dorne is they lose to many troops may suffer house Yronwoods rebellion, and the Reach is so divided and diverse so god knows about that

 

[Akio]

Here's the thing to remember, Dorne is not spoken for by Cayden and as such their plans are not concrete at all

Obviously theres also that to consider, Cayden has plans but hes also not lord of Dorne

 

[Leusis]

@Akio


A pyrric victory is essentially a victory that was so costly that many don't even consider it to be a victory. It is a technical win, Dorne was turned into the shit stain of Westeros because of those wars and they've never been any real power since (not saying they were much of a power to begin with). But because of those wars they're pretty much the ironborn of the south. Every once in a while the dornish rise up to try and do something and get swatted back down and everybody goes back to forgetting they exist.


Dorne has never won any amazing war that makes it look like they pulled a huge upset out of their ass. They literally had to ruin their own region to win, and at the cost of life and money it got to, I don't think fighting the invading armies was even worth it.

 

[Akio]

@Akio
A pyrric victory is essentially a victory that was so costly that many don't even consider it to be a victory. It is a technical win, Dorne was turned into the shit stain of Westeros because of those wars and they've never been any real power since (not saying they were much of a power to begin with). But because of those wars they're pretty much the ironborn of the south. Every once and a while the dornish rise up to try and do something and get swatted back down and everybody goes back to forgetting they exist.


Dorne has never won any amazing war that makes it look like they pulled a huge upset out of their ass. They literally had to ruin their own region to win, and at the cost of life and money it got to, I don't think fighting the invading armies was even worth it.

They were perfectly happy with their shitstain though, all they wanted was things to happen on their terms for peace. The second someone tried to negotiate other then bang their swords it actually worked. Most Dornish are just happy with their deserts, their freedom, and their ways. Ironborn arent really happy though, they want the old way. Dorne just does what it pleases. All about perspective

 

[Mion]

Fair enough, 60000 for the young dragon including himself
Probably more for Aegons war since its mentioned an entire Army of the reach disappeared into the desert along Oserys Bartheon getting captured with his army and every man in that group returned without hands and losing a sister and a dragon mid way.


Moral of the story, invading dorne is a bad idea because it doesnt last


The West has the best chance to suffer no rebellion, Dorne is they lose to many troops may suffer house Yronwoods rebellion, and the Reach is so divided and diverse so god knows about that

Wars like these can very well unite an unloyal group

 

[LittleWolfie]

Obviously theres also that to consider, Cayden has plans but hes also not lord of Dorne

Even now, Elia is formulating plans for Cayden himself

 

[Hypnos]

It is also interesting to note that 13,300 of those Reachmen belong to Hightower, so I suggest that if the Tyrells want to win they stay on Gawain's good side.

 

[Mion]

They were perfectly happy with their shitstain though, all they wanted was things to happen on their terms for peace. The second someone tried to negotiate other then bang their swords it actually worked. Most Dornish are just happy with their deserts, their freedom, and their ways. Ironborn arent really happy though, they want the old way. Dorne just does what it pleases. All about perspective

Sounds lime the North...


Except Torhen spared his people.

 

[Hypnos]

Even now, Elia is formulating plans for Cayden himself

If you don't marry him off to a really ugly person I'll be incredibly disappointed.

 

[WanderingJester]

It is also interesting to note that 13,300 of those Reachmen belong to Hightower, so I suggest that if the Tyrells want to win they stay on Gawain's good side.

How many have Hightowers even mustered at this stage of the game? It's not exactly a quick thing to march even 9000 men up from Oldtown to Highgarden.

 

[Leusis]

Here's the thing to remember, Dorne is not spoken for by Cayden and as such their plans are not concrete at all

Even now, Elia is formulating plans for Cayden himself

Oh my god, please ruin all of Cayden's planning, that would be the biggest middle finger anybody has given in this RP to date, like go join the loyalists or something and help Kuvira. Screw Cayden and his teenage love interest.

 

[LittleWolfie]

If you don't marry him off to a really ugly person I'll be incredibly disappointed.

Currently not the plan but she is going to try and marry him off for her own advantage

 

[Akio]

Wars like these can very well unite an unloyal group

Can, But kings fuck everything up *looks at viserys*

Even now, Elia is formulating plans for Cayden himself

She is, if he finds it stupid he might refuse. The chances of him support Kuriva or Brandeon even at sword point is extraordinarily unlikely. He will gladly put them on their ship and set them off so they can fight and make love as they please. Maybe he'd join the golden company though the chances of him raising his hands against Dorne is practically Zero

Sounds lime the North...
Except Torhen spared his people.

They wnated to rebel though, they never were ordered