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AnnoDomini said:
No, no, hell no, seven hells no, fuck no, lord of light no! The Freys are the most weasely disgusting, wretched, hunchback, creatures that should be snuffed out and nailed to boards alongside those big ass bridges of theirs! Every memeber, up to the 3rd generation!
Uh, you don't need to go that far. Walder Frey was a bloody saint and the hero that was needed to bring peace to the realm, I find your unfounded insults to be very offensive to the noble House of Frey. You complain about a few deaths (To save thousands) by preaching genocide on an entire family, how is that for hypocrisy.
 
Hypnos said:
Uh, you don't need to go that far. Walder Frey was a bloody saint and the hero that was needed to bring peace to the realm, I find your unfounded insults to be very offensive to the noble House of Frey. You complain about a few deaths (To save thousands) by preaching genocide on an entire family, how is that for hypocrisy.
No, no, don't act like he fucking planed peace. That was revenge, cold hearted revenge. It can go both ways, you know? And nailing that house all along the bridge seems like a cruel idea, but here, we invented the human kebab! That's right, Vlad the Fucking Impaler! And I am not saying this would be for the Greater Good, or some unknown being, no. Just pure, unaldulterated revenge for destroying something as sacred as a wedding.
 
AnnoDomini said:
No, no, don't act like he fucking planed peace. That was revenge, cold hearted revenge. It can go both ways, you know? And nailing that house all along the bridge seems like a cruel idea, but here, we invented the human kebab! That's right, Vlad the Fucking Impaler! And I am not saying this would be for the Greater Good, or some unknown being, no. Just pure, unaldulterated revenge for destroying something as sacred as a wedding.
Destroying something as sacred as a wedding? Similar to how Robb destroyed a sacred oath to wed Lord Walders daughter, and then had the nerve to force poor uncle Edmure to marry one to make up for his mistake, he had no qaulms with using Walder's bridge, no qualms with letting Walder's men die in the battle field for his cause (Walder's son and heir the brave Ser Stevron was in his sixties when he died under the banner of the wolf yet his death meant nothing) but when it came to marrying one of Walder's daughters he had a problem, Robb was an asshole, not just to the Freys but even his uncle who he chastised for helping to save his people and forced into a marriage with a woman he didn't know, the wedding was already ruined long before the first crossbow came out.


This is not mentioning the amount of shit Walder had to put up with from Hoster who would make fun at him at every turn, even Duncan the Tall decided it would be fine to throw Walder down a well for the heinous crime of being a baby, it was no wonder he turned out bitter, no wonder he wanted revenge. Robb plunged the North and Riverlands into a war they couldn't have won for his own ego of being King in the North and refused to listen to anyone's advice, thousands died for his cause and thousands more would have if Walder hadn't stepped in, even if it was revenge it was justified.


"Explain to me why it is more noble to kill ten thousand men in battle than a dozen at dinner." -Tywin Lannister.




JustWhipIt said:
Considering nobody's dead, I'd say it turned out alright.

Nobodies dead
yet.


 
Hypnos said:
Destroying something as sacred as a wedding? Similar to how Robb destroyed a sacred oath to wed Lord Walders daughter, and then had the nerve to force poor uncle Edmure to marry one to make up for his mistake, he had no qaulms with using Walder's bridge, no qualms with letting Walder's men die in the battle field for his cause (Walder's son and heir the brave Ser Stevron was in his sixties when he died under the banner of the wolf yet his death meant nothing) but when it came to marrying one of Walder's daughters he had a problem, Robb was an asshole, not just to the Freys but even his uncle who he chastised for helping to save his people and forced into a marriage with a woman he didn't know, the wedding was already ruined long before the first crossbow came out.
This is not mentioning the amount of shit Walder had to put up with from Hoster who would make fun at him at every turn, even Duncan the Tall decided it would be fine to throw Walder down a well for the heinous crime of being a baby, it was no wonder he turned out bitter, no wonder he wanted revenge. Robb plunged the North and Riverlands into a war they couldn't have won for his own ego of being King in the North and refused to listen to anyone's advice, thousands died for his cause and thousands more would have if Walder hadn't stepped in, even if it was revenge it was justified.


"Explain to me why it is more noble to kill ten thousand men in battle than a dozen at dinner." -Tywin Lannister.


Nobodies dead
yet.


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Hypnos said:
Destroying something as sacred as a wedding? Similar to how Robb destroyed a sacred oath to wed Lord Walders daughter, and then had the nerve to force poor uncle Edmure to marry one to make up for his mistake, he had no qaulms with using Walder's bridge, no qualms with letting Walder's men die in the battle field for his cause (Walder's son and heir the brave Ser Stevron was in his sixties when he died under the banner of the wolf yet his death meant nothing) but when it came to marrying one of Walder's daughters he had a problem, Robb was an asshole, not just to the Freys but even his uncle who he chastised for helping to save his people and forced into a marriage with a woman he didn't know, the wedding was already ruined long before the first crossbow came out.
This is not mentioning the amount of shit Walder had to put up with from Hoster who would make fun at him at every turn, even Duncan the Tall decided it would be fine to throw Walder down a well for the heinous crime of being a baby, it was no wonder he turned out bitter, no wonder he wanted revenge. Robb plunged the North and Riverlands into a war they couldn't have won for his own ego of being King in the North and refused to listen to anyone's advice, thousands died for his cause and thousands more would have if Walder hadn't stepped in, even if it was revenge it was justified.


"Explain to me why it is more noble to kill ten thousand men in battle than a dozen at dinner." -Tywin Lannister.


Nobodies dead
yet.


Robb made a mistake with Jeyne and he knew it, all men make mistakes even Eddard did. Robb was too honourable to not set Jeyne to the side and he tried his best to reconcile with the Frey's. They thought they did and they hung up their swords and armour to feast and celebrate with friends and family at the Twins, and then the Frey's killed them.


Robb never asked to be King, it was his Lords that made him so but more importantly it was the treatment and execution of Eddard.


And why would Robb listen to his me?


He didn't need to he was a military genius who didn't lose a battle.
 
Rhosvyn said:
Robb made a mistake with Jeyne and he knew it, all men make mistakes even Eddard did. Robb was too honourable to not set Jeyne to the side and he tried his best to reconcile with the Frey's. They thought they did and they hung up their swords and armour to feast and celebrate with friends and family at the Twins, and then the Frey's killed them.
Robb never asked to be King, it was his Lords that made him so but more importantly it was the treatment and execution of Eddard.


And why would Robb listen to his me?


He didn't need to he was a military genius who didn't lose a battle.
Too honourable to set her aside? The true honourable thing to do would have been to never touch her in the first place, he made more than s mistake when he betrayed the trust of every Frey man that fought for him, every Frey man that died for him just so he could bang a random woman. If you remember the Freys were content to take no vengance, they took their leave from Robbs army and returned home to the Twins, they didn't attack, but Robb had to go one step further, he had to shit on their family one more time by asking that those that lost family for his foolish war come fight for him again after the betrayal and requestig the use of their bridge once more even though last time he crossed he broke a sacred vow, I would be pissed too, he even offered them uncle Edmure who he views as a fool and an idiot, a fair price do you think?


Robb could have turned down kingship at anytime, he could have aided Stannis or Renly and got the same vengeance with half the bloodshed he did but he was too proud to give up his crown.


A good commander does not make one a good ruler and certainly not a good diplomat, he betrayed the Freys, he murdered Lord Karstark, he allowed Theon to return home, he made so many mistakes as a ruler.
 
Hypnos said:
Too honourable to set her aside? The true honourable thing to do would have been to never touch her in the first place, he made more than s mistake when he betrayed the trust of every Frey man that fought for him, every Frey man that died for him just so he could bang a random woman. If you remember the Freys were content to take no vengance, they took their leave from Robbs army and returned home to the Twins, they didn't attack, but Robb had to go one step further, he had to shit on their family one more time by asking that those that lost family for his foolish war come fight for him again after the betrayal and requestig the use of their bridge once more even though last time he crossed he broke a sacred vow, I would be pissed too, he even offered them uncle Edmure who he views as a fool and an idiot, a fair price do you think?
Robb could have turned down kingship at anytime, he could have aided Stannis or Renly and got the same vengeance with half the bloodshed he did but he was too proud to give up his crown.


A good commander does not make one a good ruler and certainly not a good diplomat, he betrayed the Freys, he murdered Lord Karstark, he allowed Theon to return home, he made so many mistakes as a ruler.
Well, for a kid at 16... hormones?
 
Robb's kept fucking up as much as he won, making the most crucial mistakes he could make because of sentiment. He would've won if he just listened to Roose most of the time.
 
[QUOTE="Crimson smile]What is going on with the Tully's?

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The usual, Walder's trying to stop everyone at Storms End murdering each other, Barba is pissing off Helyon Tarly and Agnes is still not consummating her marriage, they'll be gathering up for the Lannister wedding soon, to which Adele will probably be joining them since Walder said he could go before he left.
 
Hypnos said:
The usual, Walder's trying to stop everyone at Storms End murdering each other, Barba is pissing off Helyon Tarly and Agnes is still not consummating her marriage, they'll be gathering up for the Lannister wedding soon, to which Adele will probably be joining them since Walder said he could go before he left.
Marriage never consummated for at least 5 years
 

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