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[general ostruppen]

And poor poppers

 

[Leusis]

Adam and Poppers are in the main hall with all the other people eating I'm pretty sure @TheAncientCenturion

 

[general ostruppen]

Adam and Poppers are in the main hall with all the other people eating I'm pretty sure @TheAncientCenturion

Yep

 

[Leusis]

Also, if @Darth Gangsta doesn't finish getting this battle over with by the time @WanderingJester posts about the wedding I might have to just finish the battle for us.

 

[Akio]

Another advantage for the Red Spear in this situation is that the Pentos general is probably a novice since they haven't had a war since they got their assets handed to them by Bravos

 

[general ostruppen]

Another advantage for the Red Spear in this situation is that the Pentos general is probably a novice since they haven't had a war since they got their assets handed to them by Bravos

Who owns the red spears?

 

[Darth Gangsta]

It's pretty hard to post on a phone. I'll probably have a ppst by tomorrow afternoon.

 

[Leusis]

@Akio


Except they likely have thousands of veteran mercenaries under their control and just because an army hasn't seen war doesn't mean they aren't exceptionally skilled or disciplined.

 

[WanderingJester]

Also, if @Darth Gangsta doesn't finish getting this battle over with by the time @WanderingJester posts about the wedding I might have to just finish the battle for us.

I mean, everyone sort of knows what's going down there right? I would be surprise if the result was anything but the Wolverines utterly crushed. Also, the wedding isn't going to start with my next post, just the storyline of it, though the posts leading up to the wedding will be quick and continuous.

 

[Leusis]

@Darth Gangsta


Why for your comp have to get boned the moment you start posting here?

 

[Akio]

@Akio
Except they likely have thousands of veteran mercenaries under their control and just because an army hasn't seen war doesn't mean they aren't exceptionally skilled or disciplined.

Thier not allowed to hire mercenaries, thought that was one of the restrictions Bravos put down on them? I need to find the exact page in my world of ice and fire book where this stuff is mentioned. Ah here it is. Pentos can have no more then 20 warships, prohibits hiring of sell swords, entering contracts with any free companies, and keeping any army beyond the city watch. Page 267 word of ice and fire book


And their soldiers are probably not, for the most part they are town guard and Pentos ways of handling things is usually offer gifts till they go away, even the world of ice and fire mentions that Pentos always feels vulnerable due to the sanctions

 

[Leusis]

Well the sanctions also say they can't have slaves anymore but Pentos still gets away with it. So whats keeping them from hiring small mercenary companies?

 

[Elendithas]

As one of the posters in the Essos tab, and having some inside knowledge, I'm pretty hyped for this upcoming post. Not so hyped for how Cayden will inevitably try to manipulate Deanna further afterwards.

 

[Archon]

Well the sanctions also say they can't have slaves anymore but Pentos still gets away with it. So whats keeping them from hiring small mercenary companies?

To be fair, they keep slaves in all but name.


Mercenaries are a little more obvious, and with less loopholes for inclusion.


...Which begs the question of why the hell a Braavosi army isn't outside Pentos by now due to 2,000 Red Spears sitting around. Why did Pentos even let mercenaries in when the hiring of them is strictly prohibited and could bring down Braavos's wrath?!

 

[Elendithas]

To be fair, they keep slaves in all but name.
Mercenaries are a little more obvious, and with less loopholes for inclusion.


...Which begs the question of why the hell a Braavosi army isn't outside Pentos by now due to 2,000 Red Spears sitting around. Why did Pentos even let mercenaries in when the hiring of them is strictly prohibited and could bring down Braavos's wrath?!

It's best not to question the hows at this point. Too many posts have occurred since their arrival to make logical amends.

 

[Akio]

Well the sanctions also say they can't have slaves anymore but Pentos still gets away with it. So whats keeping them from hiring small mercenary companies?

They technically have no more slaves any more, they work under the idea of indentured servants where they are given food and are allowed to refuse labor if they are not in debt but most are. I don't think they would hire mercenaries though because it wouldn't be worth it. If one rumor got out and Bravos heard without a doubt they would go to war with Pentos again, they don't really fuck around.

To be fair, they keep slaves in all but name.
Mercenaries are a little more obvious, and with less loopholes for inclusion.


...Which begs the question of why the hell a Braavosi army isn't outside Pentos by now due to 2,000 Red Spears sitting around. Why did Pentos even let mercenaries in when the hiring of them is strictly prohibited and could bring down Braavos's wrath?!

Because they can't stop mercenaries from going to sell products they captured, visit family and friends, and such of that nature. A lot of traffic between pentos and the seven kingdoms also happens, so its a huge trade market that sell swords visit as much as anyone else. It would be illogical to try and stop every company who wants to drink, shop and eat while riding past pentos

 

[Akio]

As one of the posters in the Essos tab, and having some inside knowledge, I'm pretty hyped for this upcoming post. Not so hyped for how Cayden will inevitably try to manipulate Deanna further afterwards.

Speaking of which @TheAncientCenturion im gonna let you post before I post anymore

 

[Archon]

They technically have no more slaves any more, they work under the idea of indentured servants where they are given food and are allowed to refuse labor if they are not in debt but most are. I don't think they would hire mercenaries though because it wouldn't be worth it. If one rumor got out and Bravos heard without a doubt they would go to war with Pentos again, they don't really fuck around.
Because they can't stop mercenaries from going to sell products they captured, visit family and friends, and such of that nature. A lot of traffic between pentos and the seven kingdoms also happens, so its a huge trade market that sell swords visit as much as anyone else. It would be illogical to try and stop every company who wants to drink, shop and eat while riding past pentos

You just said it wouldn't be worth it for them to try and hire mercenaries.


Yet it wouldn't be worth it to ban mercenaries from coming in?


How does Braavos know the difference?


There's also a difference between a band of a few mercenaries selling wares, and visiting family and friends, and 2,000 armed, and well-trained mercenaries with a reputation.

 

[Akio]

You just said it wouldn't be worth it for them to try and hire mercenaries.
Yet it wouldn't be worth it to ban mercenaries from coming in?


How does Braavos know the difference?


There's also a difference between a band of a few mercenaries selling wares, and visiting family and friends, and 2,000 armed, and well-trained mercenaries with a reputation.

If they stay to long its probably not a friendly visit and if they leave and act in pentos's interest its also kind of obvious, not to mention unless pentos was to hire a large army its impossible for them to touch another free city which as the book notes tends to make those from Pentos less belligerent. It would not be totally impossible for them to hire small free companies but one rumor getting out and proven or one person talking about their job could bring down Bravos on the seaborne Pentos, not worth it, what would they get done in that time?


To be fair Cayden has been known to do that, he threats his men well and after fighting for so long when they get to a city he usually throws a feast for them. Some of his reputation is not just about fighting, but thier parties they let basically anyone join when they are in a good mood and their honorable reputation. Maybe not as strong as the golden company since their newer and havent had time to cement it but they keep their contracts if Cayden gives his word

 

[Leusis]

Cayden won't be giving his word when his heads on a pike in Pentos.

 

[Archon]

If they stay to long its probably not a friendly visit and if they leave and act in pentos's interest its also kind of obvious, not to mention unless pentos was to hire a large army its impossible for them to touch another free city which as the book notes tends to make those from Pentos less belligerent. It would not be totally impossible for them to hire small free companies but one rumor getting out and proven or one person talking about their job could bring down Bravos on the seaborne Pentos, not worth it, what would they get done in that time?
To be fair Cayden has been known to do that, he threats his men well and after fighting for so long when they get to a city he usually throws a feast for them. Some of his reputation is not just about fighting, but thier parties they let basically anyone join when they are in a good mood and their honorable reputation. Maybe not as strong as the golden company since their newer and havent had time to cement it but they keep their contracts if Cayden gives his word

You're assuming Braavos would wait and see. Which they most certainly would not, an infant Golden Company of 2,000 men congregating in Pentos is exactly the excuse Braavos would need to claim a second casus beli, and attack Pentos again to cripple them further.


Cayden's reputation will be anything but honourable, reliable maybe, but not honourable.

 

[Akio]

Cayden won't be giving his word when his heads on a pike in Pentos.

That's if I get cut down, he is currently with a former Kingsgaurd member and a good dozen of his men are at the front door and more in the adjacent hall ways.

You're assuming Braavos would wait and see. Which they most certainly would not, an infant Golden Company of 2,000 men congregating in Pentos is exactly the excuse Braavos would need to claim a second casus beli, and attack Pentos again to cripple them further.
Cayden's reputation will be anything but honourable, reliable maybe, but not honourable.

Well right now they've been there for exactly one day, news wouldnt have even hate time to reach Bravos yet even if someone planned to report it and he sent an Envoy to Bravos about contacting the Iron Bank so I feel they would have some idea hes not working for Pentos right now


And your probably right on that, as mainly a master of hit and run tactics and clever tricks his reputation is probably not all that honorable and more reliable. Its Dallen who plans strategy most of the time in pitched battle, Cayden could do a basic strategy with a large army but its Dallen who would command them to their fullest potential

 

[TheAncientCelt]

There might be slight inconsistencies. Bare with me.

 

[Akio]

There might be slight inconsistencies. Bare with me.

One way or another this will be interesting

 

[TheAncientCelt]

You've basically upset the establishment of Pentos. Be wary.