Realistic or Modern OOC: Santa Monica Home for Boys and Girls [Reboot!]

[Dawnstar]

My only concern is just that obviously that we've covered 2 days basically 3 months? (talk about time dilation..)
So sitting out for a whole day.. Depending on how fast Kai gets around to posting might not be too long, or might be a long time.

I don't want you to feel excluded. Though as I said.. There are limits to how much we can do if Jack just isn't interested. That is the character you picked and all.

 

[Edric Blight]

Oh wait y'all were gonna do the minivan thing rn? Then nvm that.

You guys decide whenever. I don't mind when we do it. Just lmk if we are doing it on day 3 or 4. I don't mind at all sitting out for IC day 3.

 

[Edric Blight]

My only concern is just that obviously that we've covered 2 days basically 3 months? (talk about time dilation..)
So sitting out for a whole day.. Depending on how fast Kai gets around to posting might not be too long, or might be a long time.

I don't want you to feel excluded. Though as I said.. There are limits to how much we can do if Jack just isn't interested. That is the character you picked and all.

Got it, I see what you mean.

No it's fine I don't feel excluded, I just feel a bit burnt out and like my character isn't working out too much in this and I don't know if I have that same dynamic maybe you and Kai do since y'all were in the first game/edition of this. I can drop out if I'm causing too much trouble.

And I'm fully aware of the way I made him, it's his character.

 

[Dawnstar]

Oh wait y'all were gonna do the minivan thing rn? Then nvm that.

You guys decide whenever. I don't mind when we do it. Just lmk if we are doing it on day 3 or 4. I don't mind at all sitting out for IC day 3.

Well the Minivan thing was something I thought up now, so I don't know if we're even doing it or not. My point is day 2 will be ending after not super long.
It was an idea I was offering because - I want you and Jack involved! (Assuming you want to be involved)

It's just that Jack's personality isn'#t merely shy its actively and almost aggressively isolating which makes it nearly impossible for other characters to interact. If as you said, Jack just plans to stay in his room 24/7 and not even say go outside by himself and play hockey... Firstly how boring that must be to sit on his phone for 18 hours a day? But like.. Yeah I don't know how to interact if he doesn't want to speak, nor can we even find them.
I want to interact with you! Just as as you said his character, as you want to play them actively isn't giving any ins so outside something like them being forced in the van I'm not sure how to even start.?

If you are genuinely burnt out and just dont want to RP with us at all then... It's a moot point anyway.

 

[KaiMedia]

Oh boy i missed a lot got busy at work as soon as i proposed something in ooc of course.

I don't know if I have that same dynamic maybe you and Kai do

So i wanted to throw something out there with this little statement Edric.
I really think it has more to do with characters than player dynamics.
The thing is neither me or Dawns characters are actively trying to avoid all possible social interaction. Thats why i think you feel the dynamic is off.
When we get scenes where jack is actually doing stuff and talking or interacting more the Dynamic is great it just comes down to rest of the time that things seem off because basically other characters have to try and force jack to do anything and that can be a very odd dynamic to play out constantly.
I like jack and i want to see more of Jack but that’s exactly it i want to see more of him.
I suppose i wasn’t really prepared for such an aggressively shy and introverted character.
I really like having you in the Rp and have enjoyed getting to know you a bit and such i dont want you to leave but i mean yeah if you just dont want to anymore than I understand I guess.
I certainly want you around tho.

 

[Dawnstar]

So i wanted to throw something out there with this little statement Edric.
I really think it has more to do with characters than player dynamics.
The thing is neither me or Dawns characters are actively trying to avoid all possible social interaction. Thats why i think you feel the dynamic is off.
When we get scenes where jack is actually doing stuff and talking or interacting more the Dynamic is great it just comes down to rest of the time that things seem off because basically other characters have to try and force jack to do anything and that can be a very odd dynamic to play out constantly.

This. This is it.
This basically perfectly sums up the dynamic feelings.

When our are interacting with eachtoher its a give and take. It flows pretty organically because both characters are adding to the interaction.
With Jack it feels like we have to push and give because Jack isn't giving anything back in return. He isn't actively doing anything just trying to end it constantly.

I like jack and i want to see more of Jack but that’s exactly it i want to see more of him.
I suppose i wasn’t really prepared for such an aggressively shy and introverted character.

I love Jack's story and potential as well. It's just yeah... I was expecting a shy isolating character when he was introduced, not someone who actively works to push everyone back non-stop.

Just like Kai, I think of you as a friend and I enjoy RPing and sharing ideas with you.

 

[Edric Blight]

I shouldn't have made him aggressively shy like this tbh. It's clearly not working out and y'all aren't a fan of it (understandably) and I get that it must be enraging to play against. I'm sorry.

 

[Edric Blight]

I like this RP but I don't think I'm working out in this environment cuz of my character. Apologies for the trouble. My fault for making him like this.

 

[Edric Blight]

My inexperience as an RPer and a group RPer has shown clearly.

 

[Edric Blight]

I kinda fucked up my part in the RP and the whole thing we had going here with my as character development and creation. It must be annoying for you guys to pick up my rookie slack and make up for my inexperience and bad writing in your posts, I think I'll just leave then tbh. Jack doesn't work and I can't write him.

 

[Dawnstar]

I kinda fucked up my part in the RP and the whole thing we had going here with my as character development and creation. It must be annoying for you guys to pick up my rookie slack and make up for my inexperience and bad writing in your posts, I think I'll just leave then tbh. Jack doesn't work and I can't write him.

In the end that's your choice.

But know this please Edric. We're not upset at you. We are trying to make Jack work because we genuinely enjoy having you in the RP. We don't care if your inexperienced, the fact you're trying to improve is the important part.

We would love to still have Jack in the game. If you're not enjoying playing him that's a different issue but...
The reason I was proposing stuff was because I want to make it work. I was hoping that maybe you could use Jack spending a day in a timeskip forced to be around the other kids and then the following Mini-van ride to atleast have him start warming up to the idea of being in the same room as the other character. Giving you that chance for character development, and able to use the half a day off-screen being forced to hang out as some of the justification for it so it felt better.

 

[Dawnstar]

Or me proposing all the way back at the start, and repeatedly that when Jack decides to hang out outside by himself and play some hockey.
Maybe Felix can try and open the door with him.

 

[KaiMedia]

Woah woah man calm down calm down please.
This this wasnt meant to be an attack on you or anything im really really sorry if I upset you with what i said that wasn’t my intention.

Sure the way jack is being played right now isnt great for a group Rp but it can really work for a one on one Rp and given how you said thats all you had really done before it makes sense why you have him the way you do. See in 1x1 it Can work really well cause its pretty much your character and another character and thats it other than the occasional side character so your just constantly pushing off of eachother. The reason it doesn’t work great in group rp is just because there are more characters so it doesn’t work as well cause people have other things they want to do as well and not just always push off your character.

That being said its not enraging and we aren’t upset with you in any way. I for one could also care less about your inexperience ive seen you grow and learn a lot throughout this Rp and i dont think you write bad posts you right posts that fit your idea for your character and i can tell and they are good its just they dont always work the best in the context of this game.

We want to help you grow and we want you to keep playing. We want to see Jack grow too thats all this is really about we want to help you make jack work and i really think he can work. Just might have to lighten the shyness a little bit or something and we can figure out how to make it work iC.

Please I dont want you to quit i very much enjoy having you. That has been true every time i have said it anf it still is. I cant stop you amd if you just aren’t having fun anymore then i guess there isn’t much i can do but please we both want you here and want you and jack in the game.

 

[Edric Blight]

No I didn't take it as an attack at all or anything but you're right, Jack isn't working out because I play him too much like a 1 x 1 character I guess.

I can lighten the shyness and stuff but I do think it's too late and I've already kinda fucked up with his character development to the point where maybe it's unrealistic to make him not shy anymore, and I don't wanna throw off the RP already more than I have.

I love this RP a lot, don't get me wrong, but I've realized I'm much too inexperienced to be doing this and I chose the wrong way to go about developing and writing a character and I've thrown off too much and enraged you guys far too much.

Again I don't see this as an attack, I see this as a much needed proof. I've been thinking about it for a while but you're right, Jack isn't really working in the context of this group game here.

Plus, I'm not really an experienced writer so I'm not even good at playing my own character.

 

[Edric Blight]

I do appreciate the kindness and I know you guys don't dislike me as a person outside of this RP, I'm just not a good group RPer as I thought I guess. It was a bit silly of me to join this on my first few weeks of this site lol. I've caused too much headache for y'all with the way I'm writing Jack, no doubt about that.

 

[Dawnstar]

I'm just not a good group RPer as I thought I guess. It was a bit silly of me to join this on my first few weeks of this site lol.

Edirc pardon my language - but don't give me that crap. How is anyone suppose to learn if they don't do it?

You might be inexperienced but you have been improving. The scenes with Jack at the beach were actually really fun! We saw something from Jack actually give for once, he interacted and drove the story in a way I hadn't personally seen him do before.

We're not saying Jack has to suddenly become an extrovert - but we'd love to see Jack continued being played and to start coming out of that shell just a tiny bit. Instead of just hiding in his room waiting for us to come to him, have him watch TV, or go out and play hockey, initiate a conversation with Asher. We're not saying Jack has to go to sleep and suddenly change overnight but it's never too late for a character to start growing and improving. We want to open doors for you because you love this RP, we love this RP and we want it to keep going.

Genuinely I think if you left, the RP would lose something special.

 

[KaiMedia]

Dude please your not crappy at this seriously im not just saying that if i thought you weren’t good or fun to play with I wouldn’t be fighting this hard to convince you to stay. You haven’t enraged me or caused me far to many headaches really its nothing like that at all.

I really think Jack can still work if you want him to its not too far gone and you haven’t screwed anything up. Characters can develop from anywhere they are never too far gone or whatever.

And how long you have been doing this or when you joined this site is not important. First of all how in the world are you meant to learn something or get better at something if you never try it? You cant thats how! It wasnt silly of you to think you can do this because you can we have seen some great posts from you and have seen some great parts of Jack all we have to do is work to bring those things out.

I really want to help you feel like you can still play. i really want you to continue playing. And i sure as heck dont want you leaving because you think you aren’t good enough or ruined something for us. Cause that my friend is a load of fucking crap you haven’t ruined anything and you are good enough

 

[KaiMedia]

Genuinely I think if you left, the RP would love something special.

I couldn’t agree with this statement more. I think yeah maybe me and Dawn could keep things going but if you left we would absolutely lose something special.

 

[KaiMedia]

Also I agree with everything else Dawn said

 

[Dawnstar]

Dude please your not crappy at this seriously im not just saying that if i thought you weren’t good or fun to play with I wouldn’t be fighting this hard to convince you to stay. You haven’t enraged me or caused me far to many headaches really its nothing like that at all.

I really think Jack can still work if you want him to its not too far gone and you haven’t screwed anything up. Characters can develop from anywhere they are never too far gone or whatever.

And I couldn't agree with this one more. If we wanted you to leave, or you enranged us we wouldn't be fighting this hard. So stop giving us some crap of 'im not good enough'., 'I made one mistake so I've got to run away'. ...Dude just no.

Also I agree with everything else Dawn said

I mean it seems like we're both on the exact same wavelength here with our points. Different order but same wavelengths.

 

[Edric Blight]

I mean I'll try to stay and try my best to edit Jack, but idk if I'm good enough of a writer to continue and to even edit him so he's a bearable character for you guys to play against. I wanna keep it going as much as you guys, which is why I even suggested leaving it in the first place since I feel the crappy way I've written Jack has really dragged any scene where I'm in the RP down, contrary to what you guys are saying.

I'll do my best, hopefully it won't be disappointing. I've just lost that fire, ya know? I'm also not that creative or good of a writer, so it's hard to find motivation anymore for a multitude of reasons (depression and my bad writing/not doing so hot in this RP tbh).

I never wanna be "that guy," ya know? The person who you have to talk behind their back and say this dude stinks. I don't wanna be the rookie coming in and ruining this, so if I am then that's ok. I prefer honestly opposed to lying, even if it is a harsh and brutal truth- I prefer it.

But if what you're all saying is true I'll try again with Jack and see if I can make him work- I'm just not that confident in my writing ability anymore nor am I confident in my Jack character, as much as I really really wanna continue this RP. It's been fun and you guys and your friendship have been incredible to me.

 

[Edric Blight]

And I couldn't agree with this one more. If we wanted you to leave, or you enranged us we wouldn't be fighting this hard. So stop giving us some crap of 'im not good enough'., 'I made one mistake so I've got to run away'. ...Dude just no.


I mean it seems like we're both on the exact same wavelength here with our points. Different order but same wavelengths.

I wouldn't say I've made just one mistake though tbh, it's been a lot. From the forgetting what we've plotted before, from Jack's character development, how I handle posts, etc etc, it's been enraging mistakes of inexperience after mistake.

 

[Edric Blight]

I dunno tho I'm not even feeling too good rn, I'm in a shitty mood as well.

 

[Dawnstar]

I never wanna be "that guy," ya know? The person who you have to talk behind their back and say this dude stinks. I don't wanna be the rookie coming in and ruining this, so if I am then that's ok. I prefer honestly opposed to lying, even if it is a harsh and brutal truth- I prefer it.

I'm sorry Edric but in what kind of twisted universe do you think that we would be thinking. "Ahh this person is ruining our Roleplay. Lets fight super hard to keep him there just to be mean about him when he's saying he'll leave on his own." Sorry but like that makes no fucking sense. If we were talking about you behind your back because you were "that guys who stinks" why would we be asking you to stay!?

I am almost hurt by that assumption.

 

[Dawnstar]

Again pardon my language. Liam if you read any of this, do not repeat what big brother Dawn just said.