Yeah you've got a point, maybe I could make it so that Jin controls them like puppets? If you guys are still unsure about him literally just making brains for these things, ofc
i mean creating living things tends to be a very big thing done by very big name gods.
Would've been a pretty dishonourable thing to just refuse a duel back then I suppose
Yea it wouldn't really make sense since he's supposed to be a lesser god I guess
a god giving already dangerous phantoms mind very dangerous
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yeah though like quircky said if you became known as a god of destruction you get less worshipers and less name reignition meaning you lose power and could even lose your resurrection ability
QuirkyAngel
is it ok if i add a really cool character? shes really weird, shes not like a normal background character, i dont know how to explain her basic so ill go full detail (she can be very good and bad for both organized phantoms trying to kill gods and the gods-- or even two gods trying to kill each other or two phantoms)
so you want to add in your own special race with it's own special abilities and powers that is playing both sides
so shes pretty much an unknown species and prefers to keep it a secret (not a god, not a phantom, not a human or spirit) and she loves entertainment. to keep war going between phantoms and gods, she will help whoever has captured her at the moment. shell let the side that has her tell her one fact important to thier side and, in turn, receive a fact of equal importance of thier enemy. if thats confusing, kinda like this
a god tells the girl where he has been hiding for years in exchange he might get to know how powerful his enemy has grown in the time he was gone
she would be a cool character, but because she might end up a character that might make the rp a bit hectic if a bunch of people want to interact with her, so i just wanted to ask you before making her
yeah pretty much, i knew id have to ask to do it cos its a crazy new character
yeah as this is a noragami RP so things should be based in noragami not magic plot devices because the character sounds like that oh i'll trade info for info because both sides i have been constantly backstabbing fully trust me sounds like the person you kill after getting the info you want so they can't pull the backstab or do they get to ressurect and keep all memories?
lol its supposed to be a hard price for info, because she can always be wilingly taken away, maybe ill find another rp for her
i am just saying it dosen't fully make sense to me to bring in a brand new Oc species that honestly wouldn't survive the second time they got caught.
yea true
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It's up to humans which story they believe and Inari doesn't care all that much lol. It actually adds to her story. Nice of you to notice that Mount Inari has shrines of other minor gods up there though^^
so shes pretty much an unknown species and prefers to keep it a secret (not a god, not a phantom, not a human or spirit) and she loves entertainment. to keep war going between phantoms and gods, she will help whoever has captured her at the moment. shell let the side that has her tell her one fact important to thier side and, in turn, receive a fact of equal importance of thier enemy. if thats confusing, kinda like this
a god tells the girl where he has been hiding for years in exchange he might get to know how powerful his enemy has grown in the time he was gone
she would be a cool character, but because she might end up a character that might make the rp a bit hectic if a bunch of people want to interact with her, so i just wanted to ask you before making her
Honestly seems like he should be the god of alchemy not sure it was a big thing in Japan but hey a foreigner could have brought the idea over.
I apologize for the delay in response. Was at work, but also wanted to take the time to piece together my thoughts on your character.
No problem. I face this issue all the time and that's what the ooc chat is for =P
That's one problem resolved^^
The more details you give me to work with, the more easily I can understand what you're trying to make and best make it work in a Noragami-esque setting. Noragami takes a very human-like spin on gods, in a sense that they are extremely talented in their field such that it could be coined miraculous/god-like...and I've allowed abilities to assist/reflect this niche. A god of agriculture could make plants grow or have an extremely green thumbs. A god of Judo would be a skilled martial artist and could perform miraculous Judo-feats no regular human could dream of, possibly passing his skills to those that pray to him. Hasuna gives babies/fertility to women that pray to her asking for children. My god of hackers writes god-like programs for humans that shatter firewalls (if he doesn't shatter it himself). In Tsukuyomi's lore, there's a god of food he kills that spits out food lol. All gods can 'create' to a degree, so creation itself is fine.
The problem with Jin is that his creation is not specific. It's just general creation and he's basically dipping into every niche by saying that he can create anything he imagines lol. Foods, medicines, famous works of art, money, etc...and it's not limited to existing near shore items either, given his Servus dolls. While we do have gods that take on multiple fields (like Hachiman, Nomoto, and Inari), the creation of anything from his imagination is a bit much and pretty high on the godly scale (Just be Jesus turning blood to wine=P) That's why I'm asking about asking about the jobs he takes on. It'd be easier to narrow down his creations to the prayers he answers or the wish he was born from. Does he create brilliant pieces of artworks for artists that pray to him? Help inventors 'create' novel gizmos and gadgets. Turn rocks into gold for the poor beggars that pray to him? Who are his main worshippers? If that could be answered, you'd have a more specific creation god and I'd be able to allow for a greater scale of the niche ability.
The same could be applied to 'destruction'. From what I understand, he was born from a wish of a dying soldier for the strength to live and destroy his enemies...so that things could be created. Who are the 'enemies'? What did they want created? If the answer is everything and anything lol, his ability to 'create' is going to be significantly lowered for balance.
Fma alchemy is basically humans replicating the stuff of gods and I don't have an issue with 'creation' per say. It's the "no limits in imagination" and the "altered properties" part that make me a little iffy. There are simply too many possibilities...and the creation of magical/spiritual tools is a bit too similar to the creation of regalias for my liking. It also can lend itself to possible OPness if not monitored. Elixirs of immortality (I think Kagura has mentions of that in her lore). Necklaces that give 'strength'/cure illness. The imagination is a wild thing. That's not to say that magical items can't exist or be created by gods and it's not like I didn't make a setting where such things aren't possible. Gods have the spiritual energy to do all kinds of sh*t/learn all kinds of 'godly' spells for their respective tasks/duties. Or even what is desired and much of a god's abilities is defined by what their worshippers believe them to be (I'm not sure what the regular office worker/shut-in neet believe him to be =P) and the regalias that represent them/their authority. Since Noragami defines nothing in terms of godly abilities (Tenjin can summoning lightening whereas Yato simply fights well) I've allowed players a bit of creativity in designing what they want...and "deconstruction" and "re-construction" isn't so strange for a god that studies worldly composition and/or "alchemy". He can sit along-side my god of Onmyojis who was basically has all the abilities/knowledge his legend describes as a former Japanese "sorcerer", to a somewhat "godly" extent^^
it's just as an innate ability, it's on the versatile 'I can make anything depending on the situation' OP side which is why some might find it a little jarring (I honestly don't care too much given this isn't primarily a battle rp and you seem like a trustworthy enough person willing to compromise). With an ability that's so various in terms of possibility, I imagine 'practice' would influence how quickly he's able to 'create ' something. So yeah, 'instantaneous' would probably depend on how often he makes something. Size would affect it. His knowledge of the item as well. Let's give it a Momo Yoayorozu spin and say he needs to know the exact buildup + materials to make it as well. The more complex, the harder to make and the longer to make.
Destruction has the same issue as creation in the sense that it lacks specifics lol. It's the same as saying 'god of war'/'god of calamity' /'god of fortune' which, in general, is very generic. Instantly destroying a near shore mountain is sorta OP as well, even with for gods with regalias <.< It depends on what you wanna do for a character. I'm okay with 'destruction' if it's for the purpose of collecting materials to 're-arrange'. I simply wanted to connect the two abilities somehow. Though, if he's born from the wishes of soldier, 'destroy' in order to 'create' seems like a fitting theme. A singular parent/wish-maker creating him implies that the person must've been extremely spiritually powerful to make a god. I'm actually more willing to let the god be powerful if it's the wishes of multiple people, so swapping his creation to that of the wish of any entire army of dead soldiers makes him feel more acceptable to me - their collective wish being the desire to destroy 'the enemy' and create a 'utopia'. However, since 'utopia' is different for every person, it leads to Jin's variation in creative possibilities
I see, lol. I don't think she'd mind in this case. Find it kinda funny actually~
Dueling a bunch of gods (if they were seriously trying to kill him) without a regalia is pretty impressive...unless they also didn't have divine weapons. Or they were egged on their godly pride to use fistacuffs. Whichever works for you lol. I won't question "legendary" feats that you want as part of your character's lore. Human legends are up to the interpreter. His 'worshipers' might call him a 'destroyer who conquered mount Inari'. Inari's worshippers might believe that Inari befriended the 'destroyer' with her infinite benevolence and let him stay atop the mountain. Some might even insist she defeated him, which is why Mount Inari is still standing
So let's get to the meat of the matter:
My final verdict is that his ability is fine with limits. First, is the size limit. At his current level (of worshippers and regalias), he's not creating anything bigger than a microwave. The second, the more complex the object, the longer it takes for him to make (he's going to need to the exact make-up/all the parts of a smartphone in order to make one). Third, he can only 'destroy' objects of the near shore that are unprotected spiritually/do not belong to gods, in equal portion to what he can create (so the size of a microwave), to rearrange and, because he can only destroy near shore items, he can only create existing near shore items. The worldly law of "equivalent exchange" will apply and he's not going to make spiritual/magical mojo if he does not have spiritual/magical components.
^the above may change depending on how he develops in the rp, worshippers he gain that increase his spiritual powers with their faith, and any regalias he names that may further reflect his creative tendencies as a god and increase any abilities he possesses.
The Servus don't sound like they'd be much of a problem and are more of a flavor thing so they can stay. Since has a shrine, I can see him going up to Heaven, learning some alchemy/homunculous/chimera-creating sh*t from the restriction section, gathering some 'far shore' components (as well as using his flesh) to mesh together a Servus. Maybe he even learned some tricks from an older creation god like Izanagi^^ Keep in mind 'Black Sorcery' of any sort is taboo amongst the gods who believe in natural order. Using godly flesh to create some sort of chimera is sacrilegious and immoral =P Therefore he'll be punished for using them if Heaven finds out about them (I'll leave this up to you as Heaven might just give him a slight slap on the wrist and limit him to the 3 he already has. Or they might send people to try and 'kill' the servus which aren't supposed to exist u-u Whichever you think makes the better story lol).
Haha, I'm letting you invade Enma's library and read ancient texts with spells/rituals to learn soul stuffs in her attempt to take over Enma's old post, so don't question it
As a character, no. There are only four roles for players to choose from. As an npc...*shrug* You don't even have to make a sheet for those lmao. They exist solely to assist in the telling of a story/starting of an event (that others may join if they so wish). If you feel she can fit in a Noragami setting, be my guest.
'Far shore' is just the Noragami way of saying spiritual realm and various creatures exist in Japanese myth that could be 'squeezed' in to fit. I made the 'Kitsune' into Inari's regalias, but I think there are bad(?) kitsune (fox spirits~) as well lol. I only ask that you try to do your best to fit things into Noragami terms. So no elves. Or, if there are elves, it's a 'god', like how I'm making the 'kappa' into a minor god that works for Ryuujin.
There are certainly several foreign Gods already, what's one more to be added to the list.
More was saying local god birb of a foreign idea
Gotta apologize myself since I've been processing everything and analyzing my options for a while now.
Tbh the only thing I'm finding difficult is finding a way to keep his Servus' with an ability that makes sense and is tied to the wish he was born from. I'll find a way tho
Alchemy one of the big things they claimed to make were homunculus thus creating an imitation of life is something an alchemy god could do
Never said the 'destroyer' was going anywhereIt's no problem at all. Take your time to make a character you think you'd enjoy playing.
Inari would've enjoyed chatting with the 'destroyer of the mountain' though
