Fandom Into the fire (1x1 MzHyde/Gallifrog)

[MzHyde]

Kay chuckled when John asked his question and Rinaa have the answer. She figured it just be some kind of bickering or jokes going on, judging by the body language but the answer still amused her. She nodded when Rinaa confirmed John's assumption of it being totally normal. But her smile and chuckle faded when Chas drew her attention to him and he asked the question she was expecting.

"Yeah we got answers" she confirmed, she wondered how the hell she was going to tell them. How do you tell people you're pregnant? She literally had no idea how to go about this. She was way out of her comfort zone, so she just came out with it. "Turns out...I was being sick because umm...I..I'm pregnant.." she managed to get out. She knew there was the added 'with our daughter who sent us both messages telepathically whilst on the ship and made John find me when I was sleep walking' but she decided she'd hold that bit of information back for the time being.

 

[_gallifrog_]

John would have answered had Kay not gotten there first. It was an awkward question and he would have done the same thing as Kay, just said it straight, no fluff, no bullshit. Cliff and Deke stopped their bickering when the question was answered. There was various reactions between the group. Jay showed the least signs of shock, outside of an eyebrow that raised as she tried to figure out when it happened, hoping it handy been while on the ship. She made a mental note to get a new shop for any future journeys. Chas was surprised, but not as surprised as he would have been a few weeks ago. Had this happened back on Earth he would have been nowhere near as composed as he was then.

It was Rinaa who was the most shocked, her eyebrows rising high, before scrunching together as she did the calculations, not for the date of conception, but for something else totally different. After arriving at her result she looked almost relieved, her shoulders slumping, as if the news meant something more to her. But like the rest of them, she was happy for them. Chas was the one who regained the use of his vocal chords first "Well bloody hell, it's not like we all didn't see this coming, but it makes things official. So congratulations are in order it seems." He also fully intended to interrogate John later, and explain something he'd been putting off for a while.

 

[MzHyde]

When the question got asked, she was acutely aware of how quiet the room went before she gave her answer to the group. She was terrified of looking at their reactions, but she still found herself glancing between them all, wondering when someone would eventually talk in response. The silence was excruciating for Kay. She watched as Jay's eyebrow raised and she could only think how Jay was hoping it did t happen on the ship, bit both Kay and John knew it possibly could have been when they did it on the ship.

Then Kay noticed Rinaa's reaction next which surprised her. The girl looked so shocked and clearly trying to work something out before looking relieved. Kay made a mental note to ask her what she was figuring out if she ever got the chance to. Then came Chas' reaction, and something told her he'd have reacted differently if they were home. It just seemed too relaxed for Chas in Kay's mind. She was actually glad when Chas finally opened his mouth and said something, making her feel relieved and smiled when Chas said what he did. "Mm.. we're still trying to process it" she replied to Chas.

She didn't doubt that Chas would want to have words with John privately later, she just hoped the news tied in with what he read in that book.

 

[_gallifrog_]

John noticed Rinaa's reaction, mainly because it was one of the biggest shows of emotion he'd seen on her face besides fearl rage, neutral, smirks, and the half smiles that crept across her face when she was amused or happy(ish). He also realised that he'd never seen her fully smile, even when meeting Cal. He found himself wondering if she even could, a crazy thought, yet valid. Looking at the teenager now, the emotions were gone, and she was chewing on the side of her thumb, an action he hadn't seen her do before. The two holes under her lip were less visible now with the blood gone.

John could only guess that this reaction was something to do with the fact that she was a time traveller, and was no doubt having to keep track of dates, and work backwards from what she'd been told by their future selves. And time travelling always came with the don't fuck up the timeline too much or you might erase yourself from history warning (or at least in movies, TV shows and books it did).

"It's kind of crazy to wrap our heads around, but we'll get there." "Both of you will have to fill me in, in detail, later." Chas replied, with a smile, he wasn't going to give John a bollocking just yet, considering his mate was still processing everything. John nodded at that "We're long over due a talk and an explanation, both ways." "I'll give you one, if you give me one" the cabbie agreed, an old promise of theirs. There was a lot that was cleared up. John might not neccessarily be happy with what he had to say, but he'd understand in the end. "I'm guessing you want to tell Elliott as soon as he can be broken out?" "That's the plan anyway."

 

[MzHyde]

Kay noticed how Rinaa had hid away all emotion she just showed, and was yet again back to the Rinaa that they were so accustomed to. Though the chewing on the side of her thumb was indeed new and something Kay hadn't ever seen before either. She just mentally shook it all from her mind, she didn't need more stuff to plague her head than she already had.

She let John say what he wanted as it was equally his news as it was hers. When Chas said they both had to fully explain in detail later, she nodded. She had a feeling she wouldn't get away with just saying 'hey I'm pregnant I'm off to bed now' kind of deal. Seeing him smile equally helped her not feel like they were getting the pre bollocking warning and didn't help her, as she did feel like it was the smile to say 'you're both so in for it'. John spoke up and the moment he did, she knew he was hinting at the Infor in the book Chas read. Kay then simply nodded when Chas spoke his assumption on telling Elliott when they broke him out. "We think it's best that wait until he's out, but yeah" she added to John's words.

 

[_gallifrog_]

If left to her own devices, Rinaa would probably have chewed through her whole thumb, right down to the bone. She didn't really feel the pain, an unexpected side effect of the Omega in her system. Jay noticed the chewing and through the motion of her eyebrows managed to convey to her kid to stop doing it. Rinaa stopped, slightly sheepishly. "One of these days he's probably going to have a heart attack at the bombshells we keep dropping on him." Chas already knew what's she meant, he had been there when the decision was made. "He really will."

"There's more shite to drop?" John asked, having literally no idea what could possibly be added to the list of crazy things to tell Elliott. "Well not so much a whole new bombshell, as an extension of an existing one." A suitably vague explanation, which Rinaa expanded on. The words she was saying terrified her, but she could mask her emotions almost as well as Jay could. "I want to meet Elliott"

 

[MzHyde]

Kay took notice of Jay being falling into that maternal moment, when she managed to get Rinaa to stop chewing her thumb. It made her smirk ever so slightly at the interaction between them. The smirk however did quickly vanish when Jay said what she did. She wondered what else could be possibly dropped on Elliott. Yet clearly Chas knew what Jay was on about and she got the feeling that whatever this next thing was, it was done whilst they were separated.

John's questioned echoed her own thoughts, and Chas' vague explanation didnt exactly help clear anything up until Rinaa spoke up and said it straight. Kay did look surprised but it was a positive surprise for her. She was glad that Rinaa finally decided to meet her dad when she could and not hide away from him. Kay also knew how bloody nervous Rinaa could be about doing such a thing. Especially when in her case, time travel is in the equation. She didn't really know how to convey her thoughts into words, but she wanted to try. "Wow...that's a good thing though..right?"

 

[_gallifrog_]

John just knew that Rinaa was shitting bricks internally. None of them could really put into words just how much it would mean to her, or how strange/awkward it would be. "Good on you kid." Rinaa wanted nothing more than to drop her gaze, refuse to look at anybody and mumble her way through the next part. But she didn't, she held everyone's gaze, and spoke with determination "Yeah....it is, and unless I start dying or shifting, I need you lot to make sure I don't back out of this." Given half a chance, she would do that. She would procrastinate doing it, until it was too late. She'd procrastinate dying if such a thing was possible.

Jay and Chas had already agreed to do this, Jay in particular as she was probabaly the only one put of them who was willing to butt heads with Rinaa over this. " 'course I'll do that" "Also, I owe you both three questions, so think on that." Three questions was something John and Elliott had devised when there was a subject neither wanted to talk about. The premise was simple. Three questions were asked in order to gain as much information as possible and the other had to answer honestly. It was both a trust thing and a tradition. And if Rinaa knew about it, it meant they still used it in the future.

 

[MzHyde]

Kay nodded when Rinaa replied to her reaction, of course she'd not let her back out of something like this. John clearly was of the same mindset as he agreed to do it as well. "Likewise, I'll help wherever I can" she told Rinaa, and her tone showed her that Jay truly meant it. She felt like she had to prove to Rinaa so much more than the others that she was willing to help her in whatever way Rinaa would allow her to.

When Rinaa said she owed her and John three questions, she simply nodded. She felt like Rinaa didn't owe her anything but she did always have questions run through her mind when it came to Rinaa. Except most of her questions would probably not get answered or would screw up the future or something, so she wasn't sure what she could ask her. So Kay did what she does best, she decided to wait until she heard the kind of questions John would ask and go from there. She got the significance of the whole three questions, because unbeknownst to John and Elliott, there would have been times when she overheard them do the whole thing. She just never said anything. So she appreciated when Rinaa said they're owed it.

 

[_gallifrog_]

Rinaa just nodded in response to both their confirmations. The thought of knowing that she couldn't back out was a reassurance of sorts to her. John considered what questions were worth asking. Three wasn't a lot, but with the guarantee of getting the truth, it was damn important. "Think on it and ask later, don't just do the first three thoughts that come into your head" Rinaa added, with a half smile, as she knew three questions was something John never rushed. "I'll tell you when I've thought of what to say."

Rinaa nodded, relieved to have got those two things out. Jay could see the relief even if the others couldn't. Looking at his watch, Chas realised just how much time had passed. It had been a few hours, and Cal had said they were breaking Elliott out in the afternoon. "Cliff, did Cal give a time for when she could safely break Elliott out?" The purple haired woman nodded. "Yeah, we still got an hour or so to kill, might as well be constructive, and spend it annoying my favourite blacksmiths" Deke rolled his eyes at that, as in his mind it confirmed the fact that Cal and Cliff spent all their free time with each other.

 

[MzHyde]

Kay also nodded when Rinaa said about thinking upon it. She definitely had to think about it before asking anything. Like John, she wanted to make sure she asked the right questions to get the right kind of answers, and not just ask anything that lead to nowhere. She couldn't risk getting vague answers or upsetting Rinaa even more than her future self clearly already had. "Same here" she clarified.

She may not have noticed the relief on Rinaa's face, but she had a feeling she would be relieved that Rinaa couldn't back out of meeting her father. She put herself in the girls' shoes metaphorically speaking, and imagined what it'd be like if she had to see her adoptive parents again, despite growing up with them which Rinaa didnt have, it had been a while since she saw them and after everything that come out about her, she knew she'd be so nervous about meeting them and declaring they're going to be grandparents. She looked between Cliff and Chas as they spoke timing for breaking Elliott out and just observed and made mental notes of the information spoken.

She couldn't help but smile when Cliff said about spending the time annoying. Cal at the forge. She had to admit, she was interested in seeing the forge, as her affinity with fire because of what she was, it made her want to see Cal's other workplace.

 

[_gallifrog_]

Nobody else had any objections to leaving for the forge. Deke told Rinaa had one thing left to discuss, which didn't take too long, just clarification on calculations by the sounds of it. Then the group left. Cliff deposited the goggles, lab coat and guest lanyards on the way out.

The forge was located by the amphitheatre-arena place. Despite this being a futuristic alien planet, the forge design had changed little if at all. It looked exactly like an Earth forge would-dark, shadowy, lit by the light of the flames and the sparks. It smelt of fire, ash and metal. The sound of work could be heard, rhythmic, almost musical in appreance. The doors were the half barn door, which allowed for somebody to comfortably lean on them. Judging by the elbow dents, this was a frequent occurrence. Rinaa ran a hand along the walls, she'd been here before.

Cliff leant herself on the door and turned to Rinaa. She gestured at one of the two heads working. "How much d'you bet, I can get her from here?" The teenager considered. "Twenty says you won't" was the response. "You're on kid" Cliff nimbly formed an ice ball between her palms and threw it at the back of Cal's head.

 

[MzHyde]

Kay walked with everyone to the forge after letting Cliff take all their guest lanyards and goggles. Getting to the forge, Kay was surprised that the smell of burning embers and smoke didn't want her to heave. She actually felt...at home. She couldn't put her finger on why but it was down to the fact even though she was initially born the normal human way, everytime she dies she is born from ash and embers. It's literally part of her very core.

She watched as Rinaa ran her fingers over the walls, showing she had been here before and she obviously liked being there. Glancing across when Cliff spoke to Rinaa, she smirked when she figured out what was about to happen, with Cliff confirming her suspicions the moment she threw an ice ball at Cal. It actually made her chuckle. She never would have made a bet with Cliff about it, as something told her it wasn't the first time she had done this and knew she'd win the bet even before she suggested it.

 

[_gallifrog_]

The forge appealed to John too. The darkness and the fire always attracted him, even if those two things were main elements of hell. He'd never learned to forge personally, but judging by Kay's reaction, maybe he should see if she would be like Cal and have a natural affinity for it. Pyrokinesis was part of being a pheonix after all. Jay, Chas and John all watched with interest as the ball formed, seeing exactly where this was going.

The shot arced beautifully and would have hit Cal square in the back of the head, had it not been for the blacksmith giving a word of warning. He possesed a really stereotype gravelly Norse viking voice. This was something that happened on a regular basis. Cal spun around, a gauntlet of fire forming around her left hand, catching the ball and melting it to nothing. Her call to Cliff was clearly the equivilant "nice try....think fast" as she returned with a fire ball of her own. Cliff simply vaulted the door, encased the flame in a block of ice, which came to a stop at the foot of the blacksmith. He was completly unphased by this and the presence of all the others peering over the door like a bunch of curious meerkats. He tossed off his gloves, and set aside the piece he'd been working on.

"Don't destroy my place you two, and the same goes for the crazy famtourage." He remarked in Attili with a wry grin. "and when you get a chance, maybe bring that brother of yours over, yeah Cal?" Cal nodded. "Will do, on all those things." she cast a glance at everybody at the door. "and that actually suits them, better than Motley Morons." The blacksmith vanished to wherever blacksmiths went in their spare time and Cal switched to English. "Come on in then" before wrapping an arm around Cliff who remarked "I'd have hit you if Dan didn't interfere."

 

[MzHyde]

Kay didn't even notice John noticing her reaction to the forge. If she had, she would have no doubt asked him what he was thinking. Glancing round the forge she did wonder what else she could possibly be capable of with her phoenix abilities. She continued to watch Cliff throw the ice ball toward Cal, only for Cal to get given a heads up and deflect the childish attack. Chuckling, she knew there was banter there about it all, even if it was all in Atilli.

When Cal invited them in, Kay walked in with everyone whilst looking around as Cliff stated she'd have hit Cal if it wasn't the blacksmith. Feeling the natural heat that a forge has, she was glad she left her jacket to be held by John. Even though heat was never a bother to her, she still hated wearing her jacket when surrounded by heat or fire. It was also a habit she had picked up, to make herself look casual and inconspicuous to general public, she'd remove her jacket as if to play the whole 'oh it's so warm in here' card.

 

[_gallifrog_]

Rinaa was the only one to not enter the forge. Instead, she leant in the doorway, hands tucked in her pockets. It was true that the forge was one of her favourite palvrs, but it was also home to her fear of fire. A strange paradox. The rest of the group leant against the wall, or seated themselves on the workbench (and in Jay's case) an old anvil. They were very amused by the immaturity of these so called adults with proper jobs and responsibilities. "You've been doing this to me since you were fifteen, and you used to completly bury me in snow back then. You're saying that wasn't enough for you?" Cal asked cheekily, kissing Cliff on the cheek. "Nope, and besides, I was doing that to annoy you back then, and not just because you were totally clueless."

"I was not." Cal replied, though she didn't sound entirely convinced by her own words. "Oh you really fucking were." Cliff smirked, before dropping the subject as Chas interrupted. From the little Chas had seen of the blacksmith, he liked the guy. He didn't understand all being said but he got the gist. Though there was a point he wanted clarification on. "My Attili is pretty dreadful but did he seriously call us a 'famtourage'?" The cabbie inquired, making the relevant air quotes gesture. Cal nodded, rolling her eyes "His attempt at humour"

 

[MzHyde]

The notion that Rinaa didn't go inside did not go amiss on Kay. She remembered as she came round from her sleep walking on the ship, how Rinaa bolted the hell away from her because she was engulfed in flames. It made her remember how bad her fear of fire indeed was, but she did begin to wonder where the feat came from, what the trigger for it was. Kay was always told that fears start from something, that something triggers a fear inside and if you can focus on that trigger and in most cases realise that trigger is not harmful it will break your fear. Of course, she partly thought it was all bollocks, but in some ways she did see the sense of it. It just never helped her with her fear of needles.

Kay's attention was then on Cal and Cliff and how they bantered about this little game they clearly had going on since they were kids. She thought it was incredibly endearing and sweet how they were. Then when Chas spoke up, she glanced across at him before at Cal for the answer. The choice of word was clever but also quite strange in Kay's mind, but because of that she liked it. "I kinda like the word, it's not exactly far off of what we are is it?" She chimed in.

 

[_gallifrog_]

"As far as being a word goes, it's pretty dreadful, it's so embarrassingly stupid those two words shouldn't ever be combined" John remarked. "But in terms of accuracy, it's spot on. If we're not family, we're the entourage....or Chas, even if you are family at this stage." "Accurate. I deserve my own category, regardless of anything. It's long overdue." The cabbie responded, he knew he was family, and to have that acknowledged meant a lot to him. But he couldn't deny the fact the he had his own family, and most certainly wasn't entourage. "It's us alright- awkward sounding, ridiculous looking and completly illogical, yet somehow works.......I like it" she decided.

Cal let out a mock sigh, followed by a stage whisper. "Don't tell Dan you actually like it, otherwise he'll release the reams of awful dad jokes." Cliff butted in "That's exactly why you tell him, considering how much you will embarrass your brother it's only right that you get the same treatment. Either that, or I spill the embarrassing childhood stories." Despite Cal's ability to completely out manoever her brother and most other people, when it came to snark and emotional blackmail she had met her match in Cliff.

 

[MzHyde]

Kay just smirked and rolled her eyes at John's opinion on the word. Of course he'd hate it. It was moments like this that showed their differences, but she liked seeing their differences. She could tell how Chas actually appreciated being acknowledged as their family by someone else. Which just made her even more determined to ask Chas of he'd be their kid's uncle when they got to talk privately. She knew John wouldn't object to such a suggestion. She smiled when Rinaa echoed her opinion by saying she liked it also. She was slightly surprised that her and Rinaa actually had a shared opinion on something.

She listened to what Cal and Cliff both had to say on the matter and found it funny what they were saying about this Dan person. It was clear it was spoken in endearment toward him. She didn't say much more after the conversation moved forward away from the choice of word that started their chit chat. She just kept thinking how they were seen as family and entourage, even by people who had never met them all before. Except now, every time someone mentioned the word family it was making her think of the child she was growing inside her.

 

[_gallifrog_]

"Embarrassing childhood stories? Now this sounds interesting." Jay smirked, never missing an opportunity to find out these kinds of details. Cal threw her hands up in the air in mock dramatic anger "now look what you've started. I'm never going to hear the end of this now, so keep your mouth shut please Clarissa." To which Cliff responded with a really dirty remark that left Jay, Rinaa, Cliff and Cal in fits of laughter. When laughing with such genuine emotion, Rinaa changed, her face splitting into a wide grin, her eyes seemed to almost flash slightly and she looked like the teenager she actually was for a change. Her inherited characteristics from Elliott were clearly visible in that laughter.

They regained control eventually,by which point Cal had thought up of a suitable response to Jay's remark. "On the subject of embarrassing people Jamie Tziyen..... what's the deal with you and my brother? Clearly you didn't fly the famtourage" cue smirks at the use of Dan's phrase "here because you were a part of it at that time. Actually, you were told to do the opposite, am I right, or am I right?" "Yeah, he told me not to let them come after him, along with not to let them do anything stupid. Both of those cancel each other out, so I just ignored what he said altogether. But there is nothing going on between us." She took the question better than Elliott had.

 

[MzHyde]

Kay had to admit, embarrassing family stories was her jam. She remembered how she would pry those kinds of stories out of John, which lead to them both sharing embarrassing photos of bad attire choices and drunken nights out one time. She was pretty certain she had pried them out of Chas to embarrass John plenty of times too, but with the way time had gone with them, some of those times did get blurred in her mind. It felt like only yesterday she had fallen (quite literally with her passing out from the demon scratch) into their lives, and now here she was.

She buckled at the lot of them and noticed how much Rinaa changed when she was properly laughing about something. Kay saw so much of Elliott in her even more so in that moment, and she was sure she wasn't the only one that would have noticed. She smirked when Kay said there was nothing going on between them. Sure, it was indeed correct for all they knew but clearly the two of them wanted something to happen but both too coward to say anything. "But you want there to be something between you two right? I mean...it's really obvious to us lot, even taking Rinaa out of the equation..no offence Rinaa" she briefly turned to the girl, hoping she got where she was coming from, "and it's quite possible, our 'inside sources' say it's the same for Ell too" Kay finished. She knew no one else would say it, so she had to. "So seriously...you two need to talk with each other. Because the clear tension of "I wanna express how I feel but too asked to" is getting excruciating to watch" she smirked.

 

[_gallifrog_]

When John and Chas saw Rinaa laughing, they both saw seventeen year old Elliott in her. It wasn't just in the physical characteristics like with a normal child. It was in the mannerisms, the way her eyebrows crinkled together as she laughed, the way her whole body reacted. When she stood and walked, she had Jay's posture and graceful, fluid movements, but when she laughed, she had Elliott's. It was part of the reason she had worn the mask, to conceal her more Elliott like characteristics from the others. Jay saw it too, and her eyes lightened a few shades as she looked at the girl, bit they dropped back to their normal shade when the next part of the conversation came along.

The teenager didn't take offence, she was agreeing with Kay on something (for once). "None taken, I was warned, but I didn't know it would be this level of soap stupidity." She had been warned, which was justifiable, considering she was meeting Elliott for the first time and she wanted as few curveballs as possible. Jay was able to mask her thought and emotions extremely well, and this incident was no exception. She wasn't sure how to take the whole inside sources remark, when had they the opportunity to talk to Elliott when she wasn't around. "Yeah, I want there to be something, I like him, a lot. But regardless of what happened since, I'm an assassin and he can do far better." Jay had insecurities, John realised, and he was willing to be Elliott knew a lot of them. "Well that last bit is absaloute shite." "I'm with John on that." "Us too" Cal spoke, and Cliff signed on instinct.

 

[MzHyde]

Kay nodded and smiled when Rinaa actually agreed with her and didn't offence to something she said for once. It was quite the revelation in Kay's opinion that she didn't upset the girl. Maybe they were slowly getting somewhere and Rinaa was keeping her word on actually trying to see Kay from another prospective. Either way, she was thankful. She then turned her attention back to Jay as she listened to Jay's reply.

Kay couldn't hide her eye roll at Jay's reply. She was glad that John spoke up with Chas to call her out on what she said before she did. Then Cal and Cliff did too, and she actually held her arms.out in 'see?!' manner. "not all of us can be wrong Jay. Ell seriously likes you...alot...and he's just as bloody worried about saying anything as you are. If not more so...that punch to the face out the fear in him to say anything about his feelings" she chuckled, "but seriously, you put yourself down and it's not justified at all. You two are perfect together. Don't sell yourself short, you're fricking badass!" She told her. It would be obvious now to Cal and Cliff where she stood in their group.

She was always the one that came out with the wise words to everyone or listened to everyone's worries and gave the best advice she possibly muster up. Something that John would know all too well.

 

[_gallifrog_]

Rinaa had to object on that, she was ridiculously stubborn on things like that, and her objection did take the heat off Jay for a few moments. "Actually there are occasions where ye can all agree on the absolute wrong idea, adding two and two and making eighty three......but that is besides the point." She finished, diverting the conversation back to what was admittedly a very weird topic. She was helping her mother to get together with her father...….weird on many, many different levels.

"Anything I say here is going to sound incredibly hypocritical" Chas rolled his eyes at that, John giving advice on almost anything was hypocritical. "But whatever happened in the past, whatever you've done on that list of felonies that is potentially longer than mine." "It is, I calculated once." John didn't even want to know how Rinaa had acquired the necessary data. "You're a better person than you think you are. And you got us all here, even though you had no real reason to do so."

Jay didn't let any of her internal thoughts show. If she was a telepath, she would be brutally ransacking their minds to verify this information, especially two particular points, one being the "Elliott likes you a lot" bit, the other being that Rinaa had calculated her felonies versus John's. She guessed hers was higher as she'd violated the laws of different planets, systems, various treaties, and a lot of speeding violations. "that punch wasn't my smartest idea, on various levels. Maybe I act on it how I feel, maybe I don't, but at the end of the day, I still don't want to hurt him any more than I already have."

 

[MzHyde]

When Rinaa objected a small part of what she said at the beginning, she rose an eyebrow at the girl. It really wasn't the point at hand, and yes, they probably in her timeline do come up with some ridiculously wrong things and all agree, but at least they all agree on them together. Kay then looked between John and Chas as John spoke up his thoughts and opinions and Chas rolling his eyes at him. So what if everything advice wise was hypocritical coming from John, he still proved every now and then that he did give good advice. He helped her fathom shit out before and calm her down. So it was indeed possible.

Once more Kay turned to Jay when she replied to all of their comments. She may hide her feelings and reactions well, but her words have her away in showing she really did feel bad about hurting Elliott. "I'm no love expert, used to actively avoid it by literally running away, but I think everyone can agree when I say this- don't let your fear of hurting Elliott stop you from being honest with him. The more you do that? The more you will end up hurting him. And yes, I'd be gladly telling him this too if your places were reversed. Before you think I wouldn't." She told Jay. She truly did think the longer both of them went on hiding from their feelings and keeping it a secret from each other, the more tension and problems they'd both end up having.