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YOU FOOL!!!!
The original Baggy was supposed to be destroyed for a reason
It keeps trying to pull the UNIVERSE into itself
SABER KILL THE BAGGY AND KOSS!!!!

Naw brah, it's fine.

Ah, poor Saber. If you don't understand by yourself, you won't from me explaining

*Eats the baggy*
*Koss Saves the day*
Tastes like leather.
There can never be an excuse for a king to refer to another as their king. A king stands at the top after all.
 
I mean Saber's origin ensures she has another name to call me....
Hue? Imma go with HUE.

Naw brah, it's fine.


There can never be an excuse for a king to refer to another as their king. A king stands at the top after all.
...But kings bow to Gods, or Emperors, or those better than them. Granted most are too prideful or arrogant, and tend to be defiant towards those their superior.

Rider calls her Master such things cause of... *anime sound effects and zoom in of the eyes* LOVE


ALSO I GIVE UP WITH MODS. *Eats nuggets*
 
I mean Saber's origin ensures she has another name to call me....

Jun is never being called anything other than Master. Any localized titles would be too much of a give-away.

Hue? Imma go with HUE.


...But kings bow to Gods, or Emperors, or those better than them. Granted most are too prideful or arrogant, and tend to be defiant towards those their superior.

Emperors and Kings are basically the same thing, just two names for the same thing. And you don't call your god your Liege. In the realm of man a king stands alone at the top. For them to refer to another as their liege makes them not a king, but a mere puppet to the true ruler.
 
Jun is never being called anything other than Master. Any localized titles would be too much of a give-away.



Emperors and Kings are basically the same thing, just two names for the same thing. And you don't call your god your Liege. In the realm of man a king stands alone at the top. For them to refer to another as their liege makes them not a king, but a mere puppet to the true ruler.
Eh. I see Emperors above Kings. Emperors tend to rule larger areas of land, have larger armies and populaces as well as subtle different political structures. Emperors usually unite Kings and Kingdoms. And *Shrug*, like I said, Rider calls her Master Liege because of Love. That and literally Cassandra is her MASTER. Her LIEGE. Rider is a mere servant, a subject for her master.

Granted, if this was real life, Rider wouldn't call anyone liege because they were literally the most powerful person of their time, but this is a HGW, were someone controls the reigns(heh. Pun.). But I also wanted to add some flair and uniqueness to Rider. It is the same as Nero calling Hakuno Praetor.
 
Jun is never being called anything other than Master. Any localized titles would be too much of a give-away.



Emperors and Kings are basically the same thing, just two names for the same thing. And you don't call your god your Liege. In the realm of man a king stands alone at the top. For them to refer to another as their liege makes them not a king, but a mere puppet to the true ruler.
Emperors and Kings aren't quite the same thing
Emperors have more to rule
Also they shoot lightning from their hands
Although Kings can go on road trips with their 3 best buds
 
Eh. I see Emperors above Kings. Emperors tend to rule larger areas of land, have larger armies and populaces as well as subtle different political structures. Emperors usually unite Kings and Kingdoms. And *Shrug*, like I said, Rider calls her Master Liege because of Love. That and literally Cassandra is her MASTER. Her LIEGE. Rider is a mere servant, a subject for her master.
Emperors and Kings aren't quite the same thing
Emperors have more to rule
Also they shoot lightning from their hands
Although Kings can go on road trips with their 3 best buds

Territory size isn't really relevant. There have been plenty of kings that ruled more than plenty of emperors. Emperor's also don't unite kings and kingdoms, they conquer them lol. They're functionally the same as they're an absolute ruler of their country. King and Emperor is just a fancier way of saying Dictator. They're all basically interchangeable.

As for the love part, damn Rider's so easy if she falls in love with the first woman she sees upon being summoned lmao.

"We want a rider route!"
"Ok"

Rider: Are you my master?
Player: Yes
-End CG of them being lovey-dovey-

Edit: Difference with Nero is Praetor is a lower rank than what Nero was. To translate it into other terms it'd be like Saber addressing Shirou as "Duke" or something.
 
Territory size isn't really relevant. There have been plenty of kings that ruled more than plenty of emperors. Emperor's also don't unite kings and kingdoms, they conquer them lol. They're functionally the same as they're an absolute ruler of their country. King and Emperor is just a fancier way of saying Dictator. They're all basically interchangeable.

As for the love part, damn Rider's so easy if she falls in love with the first woman she sees upon being summoned lmao.

"We want a rider route!"
"Ok"

Rider: Are you my master?
Player: Yes
-End CG of them being lovey-dovey-

Edit: Difference with Nero is Praetor is a lower rank than what Nero was. To translate it into other terms it'd be like Saber addressing Shirou as "Duke" or something.
*Throws his controller on the ground*
I spent $60 on this?
 
Territory size isn't really relevant. There have been plenty of kings that ruled more than plenty of emperors. Emperor's also don't unite kings and kingdoms, they conquer them lol. They're functionally the same as they're an absolute ruler of their country. King and Emperor is just a fancier way of saying Dictator. They're all basically interchangeable.

As for the love part, damn Rider's so easy if she falls in love with the first woman she sees upon being summoned lmao.

"We want a rider route!"
"Ok"

Rider: Are you my master?
Player: Yes
-End CG of them being lovey-dovey-

Edit: Difference with Nero is Praetor is a lower rank than what Nero was. To translate it into other terms it'd be like Saber addressing Shirou as "Duke" or something.
Emperor: the ruler of empire. Empire: a group of countries that are controlled by one ruler / government. King: the (male) ruler of an independent state / country that has a royal family. They may rule the same, but they are not. They are titles created because one is inherently more powerful and larger than the other. Also yes, Emperors can conquer, but they can also unite surrounding countries.

Well, Cassandra is a decent person, if a bit of a realist. If someone like Ryuunosuke Uryuu summoned her, she'd probably try to kill him. Also, there are forms of love that aren't romantic. For now, Rider has no romantic feelings towards her master.

Yes, I realize that. I know what Praetor means. No need to translate such a basic term. I am saying Rider uses Prothymos as Nero uses Praetor. To show loyalty and affection.

EDIT: The distinction between Kings and Emperors/Kingdoms and Empires is not universal. I just think there is a difference between them. Emperor is above a king. That is all
 
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Emperor: the ruler of empire. Empire: a group of countries that are controlled by one ruler / government. King: the (male) ruler of an independent state / country that has a royal family. They may rule the same, but they are not. They are titles created because one is inherently more powerful and larger than the other.

Well, Cassandra is a decent person, if a bit of a realist. If someone like Ryuunosuke Uryuu summoned her, she'd probably try to kill him. Also, there are forms of love that aren't romantic. For now, Rider has no romantic feelings towards her master.

Yes, I realize that. I know what Praetor means. No need to translate such a basic term. I am saying Rider uses Prothymos as Nero uses Praetor. To show loyalty and affection.

An Emperor is the absolute ruler of a sovereign nation. A king is the absolute ruler of a sovereign nation. Kings have never been subservient to an emperor. When an empire conquers your country you don't get to stick around as king. Empire's may, typically, be larger and more powerful than any normal country but that doesn't mean kings are lesser than emperors or that they'd ever bend the knee to an emperor. Any time a king surrendered to save his own life, he stopped being a king because his lands were taken by the emperor that conquered him and he'd get some kind of title within the empire.

So I still stand by my point that kings, emperors, and the like are all largely interchangeable because they're the absolute top of the top. No one holds authority over them. Once you take the approach that emperor's stand above kings because they hold more power, then that means kings also stand above other kings simply because their nation is larger and more powerful. The power of a foreign power doesn't really change your authority within your own nation.
 
Xel, I am using definitions of Kings and Emperors. They are different and hold different amount of power.

In a monarchy an emperor and king are both rulers, but the power associated with them is different. They can be compared to regional manager and the CEO of a company. An empire can have many kingdoms within it; the emperor rules the entire empire while kings (or queens) rule smaller kingdoms within the empire. While the king (like the regional manager) has total control over his territory, the emperor (like the CEO) is the one who makes the final decision for the entire region.

An Emperor is the highest power in the region he occupies. For most practical purposes they were in a world of their own (Emperors of China, India, Persia, and others have often seen themselves as the rulers of the world). If there is a bigger power in the vicinity (whether political or religious), it would be silly to call him an emperor. Kings are not necessarily the biggest powers and they often pay tributes to other powers (emperors, pope, or other kings). While the title of king is primarily political, the title of emperor often makes one the head of the religion too.
 
Xel, I am using definitions of Kings and Emperors. They are different and hold different amount of power.

In a monarchy an emperor and king are both rulers, but the power associated with them is different. They can be compared to regional manager and the CEO of a company. An empire can have many kingdoms within it; the emperor rules the entire empire while kings (or queens) rule smaller kingdoms within the empire. While the king (like the regional manager) has total control over his territory, the emperor (like the CEO) is the one who makes the final decision for the entire region.

An Emperor is the highest power in the region he occupies. For most practical purposes they were in a world of their own (Emperors of China, India, Persia, and others have often seen themselves as the rulers of the world). If there is a bigger power in the vicinity (whether political or religious), it would be silly to call him an emperor. Kings are not necessarily the biggest powers and they often pay tributes to other powers (emperors, pope, or other kings). While the title of king is primarily political, the title of emperor often makes one the head of the religion too.

That's the point. What you describe isn't how it's worked. It's never worked that way. Kings don't exist within empires. Take the largest empire in history, the roman empire. When they conquered new territories the rulers of those territories didn't get to remain. This trend holds true for every empire in history. The british empire? Brits were put in charge of conquered regions, not the local king. Japanese empire? same thing and/or puppets. Mongol empire? There's a trend here.

Kings are like the CEOs of local businesses whereas emperor's are like CEOs of multinational corporations. They're both CEOs. They both stand at the top of their respective business. It's just one business is larger than the other.

The problem with the whole "this guy's more powerful thus he's in charge" is that it simply never worked that way in reality. Empire's and country's have come in all sizes. One kingdom led by a king might be several times larger and more powerful than another kingdom (see: Polish-Lithuania Commonwealth vs most other european kingdoms of the time). The king of poland was still a king. But he controlled vastly more territory and military might than the king of say, switzerland. But they were still both kings. Likewise there have been many empires that were smaller and weaker than a kingdom, so their emperor would hold less worldly power than a king.

Kings and Emperors aren't based on their power on the world stage. They're based on their power within their country. Everything between the two is interchangeable. Emperor's paid tributes to other powers too, including the pope that you mentioned. They were overshadowed by other world leaders. Whatever you use to describe one can be used to describe the other.

To put it in a modern lens, an Emperor and a King are like a President and a Prime Minister. They are, for all intents and purposes and functions, the exact same thing.
 
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Imma give ya'll a run down of our active participants


Deep down inside a London catacomb
We have our very First Master
Our boy named Jun
Has a Grail War to fight
With a motherswording waifu
Name of Saber, dude
Always ready for a fight
Ooo

Next on the list
We have Melvin and Archer
Dark sarcastic duo
Who upon their departure
Touched upon the Overseer before the other Masters
With this information
They could be a disaster

Also here with us
We got Cassandra and Rider
Cass got a good head
It'll be what guides her
Her Servant is quite fervent
In her love for all the cuties
Busting beauties
Left, Right, Root, Shoot and Tooty

Crashing in the way
We got Lenka and her Zerker
Bashing problems
Could prob'ly call her a violent "Tearjerker"
They're both fighters
When it comes to trading fists with the rest of us
I think its obvious they'll never fly higher

Hiding in the dark
We got Alexandria and Assassin
Both of these individuals bear an intense passion
One for death, one for freedom
Let's see where a war of heroes will take them

Finally active we have Sarah and the Lancer
Youngling of her Lord and the Pointy Stick Dancer
Two girls on their own
This will be an adventure
Got a thirst for battle?
Well then this here is the quencher

All these random Masters
In a battle of the mages
It don't take sages
To see how mad and insane
It all is
So sit down and have a taste
Of this Bad Joke
That is our Fate
 

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