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[clarinetti]

clarinetti
You're good to post! Checked you CS over and you're accepted.

You can just hop in at the current time skip as someone that was silently hanging about at the gate who is now more socially present lmao.

Thanks for joining up so quick I appreciate it a lot!

Well thanks for the approval- much appreciated and glad to be here.

clarinetti Gj focusing on extracting the civillians.

Thanks: unsure how much it’ll matter in the grand scheme, but figured if it’s going to be a brawl we should try not to accidentally injure the people we’re supposed to be protecting ;p.

Also, as I’d meant to do it earlier, hey everyone. Thanks for having me and it’s great to get to join in on this. Looking forward to writing with you folks

 

[KnightOfNight]

Zerohex

No one else is complaining though. If this system isn't OK with you, go find a RP that vibes with you, or spend the time to make your own. I understand that there are flaws, like in any system, but they're mitigated. You're short selling the strength of a specialist character. Asking for an additional trait like Shining Wizard is very different than asking for

1. Two Jonin level skills
2. A redefinition of what skills do

I thank you for considering this RP, but if what I've conceded (giving you two Jonin level traits) is not sufficient than I really have nothing else to say. I have tried really hard to be as cordial as possible while you look for any possible way to rip apart my character system and have turned the OOC into a debate field. If you have anything else to reply with, DM or I'm just gonna delete your posts because this is rediculous.

Honestly that seems like an extreme reaction to what really seems like a huge misunderstanding. Personally speaking, I don't think (keyword here) he's trying to abuse anything, he's just caught up with how the series itself defined things and is trying to base his character on a canon character for the most part. I think everyone involved needs to take a moment to chill out before replying so things don't get too heated, ok?

 

[Shining Wizard]

clarinetti Oh, hey, didn't see you there. How you feel about having transparency in regard to what stats actually do and also splitting them so we don't have three stats for endurance?

 

[clarinetti]

clarinetti Oh, hey, didn't see you there. How you feel about having transparency in regard to what stats actually do and also splitting them so we don't have three stats for endurance?

Ah, well as I only got here for the tail-end of this whole debate, I don't feel it's right for me to overextend in getting involved in this. Based on what I have seen though, I think this debate is moreso out of a miscommunication than anything, and agree it might be good to take a step back before continuing the dicussion.

 

[Shining Wizard]

clarinetti Entirely reasonable and I respect your decision.

 

[KnightOfNight]

Well I'm gonna start on my IC post now and to keep everyone from stepping on toes, I'm heading over to Sora to back him up.

 

[Scion]

Shining Wizard - I'd say aye to that as it does seem to make sense but it seems like a good idea to let things lie for a bit, see if the lines of miscommunication can be settled and what not.

Then just as a general thing, so, ninja stuff huh? Different than affairs with the Daimyo.

 

[clarinetti]

clarinetti Entirely reasonable and I respect your decision.

Thank you, much appreciated. Personally, I don't mind the system as it stands now, since I don't interpret all the stats in question as representing 'endurance'. And in my experience as long as expectations are set in advance, players won't abuse any potential ambiguity. If there's a consensus between the GM and everyone else that changes are desired though, I wouldn't be opposed to it. Either way though, after what transpired earlier I think it's best to hold back on any further rhetoric until everyone is present to take part in it.

KnightOfNight
Mm, looking forward to it- show us your moves .

Scion
Maybe just a little different in this scenario. I suspect though that Kotone's knowledge on diplomacy and court politics could prove handy in future missions as the story progresses.

 

[Scion]

clarinetti - You'd hope so that and less "Oh, heeey yeah I remember all of you guys uh, yeah uh I have reasons for not following the family business, could we please not discuss that here and just - Look I can explain these others peoples odd behaviors. ...It's going to be a long night isn't it?"

 

[KSMI]

I'll be laying low until theres a need for support.

That being said, Kloudy assuming our characters know abit about each others abilities, perhaps we can hash out a combo technique. Alternatively you can post, and I'll find someway to back it up.

 

[clarinetti]

clarinetti - You'd hope so that and less "Oh, heeey yeah I remember all of you guys uh, yeah uh I have reasons for not following the family business, could we please not discuss that here and just - Look I can explain these others peoples odd behaviors. ...It's going to be a long night isn't it?"

Nah, you've got nothing to worry about. It'll only be awkward if you want to make your character go through that.

 

[Scion]

Well first part maybe, but second part still game.

 

[Kloudy]

I’d just like to point out that I support Uncultured in their decision. Jonin level strength and durability (resistance to damage) with close to that for speed is enough to beat any of our characters in a 1v1 most of the time. That’s basically like fighting Might Guy at full strength with original kid Naruto. There should definitely be a stamina hit and I agree that chakra pool/control, life force, is the governing factor here. Run out of that and your dude collapses from exhaustion. Hence, to get exhausted, one must exert themselves either physically or via nin/genjutsu.

And on top of all that, don’t argue with the gm. If you have a question or a suggestion, cool go for it. But if the gm has given you an answer don’t try to debate their point around. At the end of the day this is their rp construction and they’ve clearly put a lot of thought into how the cs stats are going to affect the IC.
Oh, and discussing semantics such as “it’s not a system, it’s not a vidya” is retarded. It’s whatever the gm damn wants it to be, if hunter wanted to say this rp was actually a written form of MMORPG I’d take that. Stop arguing with the gm, it’s clogging the thread and causing an ultimately unnecessary conflict in opinion.

*rant over*

Anyways, KSMI I’d love to have a prior relationship with you. Shall we go with previous squad mates? And yeah, we can do a joint attack, I’ll set you up for something once I’ve read the IC properly.

 

[KSMI]

Kloudy Sure. Previous squad-mates is fine with me.

 

[Shining Wizard]

Kloudy Okay, so that's two for yes, one for no from the GM's friend, and one undecided?

 

[Kloudy]

Kloudy Okay, so that's two for yes, one for no from the GM's friend, and one undecided?

I don’t actually know Hunter or have been in any of their prior rps, I just don’t like what you’re currently doing. There really shouldn’t have to be a poll for something as trivial as this when the gm has clearly stated the rules.

 

[Scion]

Honestly a poll really does seem like the best idea, it taps into the mind of everyone yanno? And it's not exactly a 'trivial' matter when this influences uh, well what your character can do.

 

[Shining Wizard]

Kloudy You realize he's the one telling me to do it, right? There's no need to be scared of arguments, dude, that's how people hash things out.

 

[Kloudy]

Kloudy You realize he's the one telling me to do it, right? There's no need to be scared of arguments, dude, that's how people hash things out.

He hasn’t told you to do it, you’ve forced him into a corner where he has to ask you to make a poll or he’ll look like an overbearing asshole.
And I’m not afraid of arguments, you just can’t seem to accept when the gm tells you no.

 

[KnightOfNight]

Remember when I said everyone should chill out? Good times.

 

[Shining Wizard]

Kloudy Well I mean I got PMs right here that say otherwise but hey, you do you.

 

[Uncultured]

To be honest. I've been pushed into a corner. On one hand I hate overbearing power trip GMs that make super controlled RPs. That's why I let people push the plot where they want it. On the other hand I did establish rules that most people followed without a problem.

Now if everyone is down with adding a trait, alright. I'm not gonna pretend to be happy that my ruleset isn't sufficient but hey, if yall want it, I'll implement it.

Kloudy was super understanding when I nerfed his character. I had him edit the absolute shit out of his moveset and he abided which is awesome. So I can understand why he is upset with all of this because if anyone has had to deal with my bullshit it is him.

Right now it's 2-2 for the vote count. If it's a majority that wants the edit then I'll edit it.

Shining Wizard while you've been pushing for a change, it's been respectful for the most part and not over the top, which is why I'm not considering kicking you or drawing an ultimatum.

5 traits may be too small, 6 is on the table, but be aware that this might make #5 high genin if #2 is going to be low Jonin. These are meant to be realistic chunin characters. The issue is that the rookie 9 were OP as shit for chunin other than perhaps ino, but even she had a hack. Thus people are looking to compare themselves to a guy like Lee or Neji who were legitimate Jonin level fighters as genin.

 

[Shining Wizard]

Uncultured Well in that case, would you like me to provide full transparency? It's only fair, since I've been asking the same of you.

EDIT: Also it was established earlier that the proposed split was 5-4-3-3-2-1, if you recall. There's no need for all this bargaining and posturing here, dude, we're all friends playing internet pretend.

 

[KnightOfNight]

Uncultured
It wouldn't hurt to add it, I could see how the functions of the traits confused Zerohex and if we get more new people down the road, it could easily happen again. But personally, I think the numbered traits deal is a little silly and having sections on the CS for strengths and weaknesses is better, especially if the GM actually enforces it properly which you seem to want to do.

 

[Shining Wizard]

These are meant to be realistic chunin characters. The issue is that the rookie 9 were OP as shit for chunin other than perhaps ino, but even she had a hack. Thus people are looking to compare themselves to a guy like Lee or Neji who were legitimate Jonin level fighters as genin.

Okay first off, realistic fantasy ninjas, got it.

Second, are you seriously saying player characters can't be on par with main cast from the manga?