Fandom Shirou Emiya's Smithing Shop - OOC

[Iskandar]

David look super homoerotic in fate form Girouette

 

[Girouette]

David is one of my favorite Archers in Grand order. He's also insanely lore accurate.

As I said, Solomon calls him daddy ;3

 

[Girouette]

Mostly because he's his dad.

 

[Xel]

Personality however adds into this. Excaliber was said to be able to slay Dragons, which are the strongest of mythological monsters most of the time. And then you add in the ability to have spells. King Arther showed he could fight...

Jesus shows that he is a support pacifist. He hurt NO BODY... he was made to be perfect. He is immortal in the end, so no pain matters to him in the end. He simply will heal, cure, and enjoy the world around him. A command seal could make him fight, but it would do jack shit because he was never known to fight, instead to do the opposite, which would kill the point/ideal of jesus

Personality doesn't matter to the power of someone or the grail's ability to summon them. Jesus IS God, he had the powers of God, he was God in human form. He could perform miracles. Trying to summon Jesus is like trying to summon God himself, the Grail can't do that. Whether he'd fight or not doesn't matter.

 

[Godhowsae]

The holy shroud which covered his body, items from the last supper including THE holy grail...the nails from the cross, the holy sponge......

 

[Girouette]

Also. This.

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[hudhouse]

Personality doesn't matter to the power of someone or the grail's ability to summon them. Jesus IS God, he had the powers of God, he was God in human form. He could perform miracles. Trying to summon Jesus is like trying to summon God himself, the Grail can't do that. Whether he'd fight or not doesn't matter.

...Dude you just take all the fun out of every god damn thing

 

[Xel]

...Dude you just take all the fun out of every god damn thing

Don't try to summon literal gods as Servants then :|

 

[Iskandar]

Mostly because he's his dad.

So you are into Incest now? Wowza

 

[Girouette]

I mean. He has a point of why Jesus can't be summoned, but that goes for mostly any Prophet worshiped as the Abarhamic god themselves except in the Saver class, which only exists currently canonically in the Moon cell.

Prophets like David can be summoned, but Jesus would be a no no on the pure fact of having the Holy Grail as an NP. LOL. It's more so "The grail can only summon someone SO POWERFUL". Moses probably couldn't be summoned either. Someone like Noah might be though.

 

[Godhowsae]

Jesus would have so many powerful skills and NP's...I don't think it would be possible to beat him.

 

[Girouette]

So you are into Incest now? Wowza

NO.
I AM NOT

 

[Iskandar]

NO.
I AM NOT

You sure... I dunno... That " ;3 " face was suspicious.

Also I can see why Michiru is your fave in Grisaia.

 

[Xel]

I mean. He has a point of why Jesus can't be summoned, but that goes for mostly any Prophet worshiped as the Abarhamic god themselves except in the Saver class, which only exists currently canonically in the Moon cell.

Prophets like David can be summoned, but Jesus would be a no no on the pure fact of having the Holy Grail as an NP. LOL. It's more so "The grail can only summon someone SO POWERFUL". Moses probably couldn't be summoned either. Someone like Noah might be though.

Moses should be able to be summoned. I don't see any reason why he couldn't. His feats are no more impressive than other heroes that have been summoned before. He himself had no power anyways. So it'd go back to what I said about the grail blending myth with the man. Moses didn't create the plagues, God did, Moses was simply a messenger. So it's not possible for him to be too powerful to summon. He'd probably get his plagues as his NP though.

 

[Girouette]

Michiru is my spirit animal.

My "Sis" literally have a duo thin in a chatroom thing with VN sprites where we play Makina and Michriu

GUESS WHO'S COOLER, BETTER, AND WHICH ONE?
Iskandar

 

[Girouette]

Moses should be able to be summoned. I don't see any reason why he couldn't. His feats are no more impressive than other heroes that have been summoned before. He himself had no power anyways. So it'd go back to what I said about the grail blending myth with the man. Moses didn't create the plagues, God did, Moses was simply a messenger. So it's not possible for him to be too powerful to summon. He'd probably get his plagues as his NP though.

I dunno. I think Moses is kinda the same as Buddah though? Saver only? I think Nasu actually talked about this stuff at some point.

 

[Girouette]

Also. This discussion reminded me of this existing.

 

[Godhowsae]

Also, if you think all the legends about Jesus are about some healing guy who doesn't hurt people...you have never read the Gospel of Pseudo-Matthew.

 

[Xel]

I dunno. I think Moses is kinda the same as Buddah though? Saver only? I think Nasu actually talked about this stuff at some point.

The point is that Moses himself isn't powerful. He was merely the messenger of God. All the plagues, the parting of the sea, these were all done by God, not Moses. So I see absolutely no reason why the Grail wouldn't be able to summon him and give him skills/NPs accordingly. He'd probably be summoned as Caster and have his plagues and whatnot as skills/NPs.

 

[Girouette]

Either way, considering I doubt a messiah would have a wish for the grail, they would probably be Ruler only either way except in GO where class containers are pointless lol.

I mean, we do have Ozy, so Moses is confirmed existing in the Nasuverse...I guess you are kind of right there.

 

[Xel]

Either way, considering I doubt a messiah would have a wish for the grail, they would probably be Ruler only either way except in GO where class containers are pointless lol.

I mean, we do have Ozy, so Moses is confirmed existing in the Nasuverse...I guess you are kind of right there.

Ozy as Rider, Moses as Caster.

 

[Girouette]

...I'm an idiot. I forgot Moses already appeared in fate/Prototype in a flashback thing, with a definitive appearance and everything, so LOL.

I don't think he was confirmed a caster since he's not a servant in any works yet, but I still stand by him basically only qualifying for ruler in a normal war due to being most likely wishless.

 

[Iskandar]

Michiru is my spirit animal.

My "Sis" literally have a duo thin in a chatroom thing with VN sprites where we play Makina and Michriu

GUESS WHO'S COOLER, BETTER, AND WHICH ONE?
Iskandar

So you are Makina. Got it

Michiru is like stupid but at the perfect times and her over the top tsundere is great.

 

[Xel]

...I'm an idiot. I forgot Moses already appeared in fate/Prototype in a flashback thing, with a definitive appearance and everything, so LOL.

I don't think he was confirmed a caster since he's not a servant in any works yet, but I still stand by him basically only qualifying for ruler in a normal war due to being most likely wishless.

I'm sure Moses had plenty of regrets that could be played on. Caster is the only class that'd fit for him as far as I know of his story, since the only thing he'd have is his plagues.

 

[Girouette]

So you are Makina. Got it

Michiru is like stupid but at the perfect times and her over the top tsundere is great.

I AM NOT MAKINA. MY DUMB SIS IS.