Fandom Shirou Emiya's Smithing Shop - OOC

[Dalamus Ulom]

Jesus straight up killed people because they did something he didn't like. Just said they'd be punished and they fell down dead. He wouldn't even need things like the lance or crown of thorns to murder you. It could be something as simple as him being mad about you fighting over a fake version of his cup and commanding everyone involved to die, and so they die. Jesus, like all parts of the bible, was exceptionally savage. You just aren't taught about those in sunday school. Jesus had no qualms about killing people because at the end of the day they're going to heaven or hell either way. Not like it matters. And he had the power of an omnipotent God at his disposal. Jesus would be, unquestioningly, the single most powerful servant to ever exist. But that's also part of why he can never be a servant. The Grail can't support an omnipotent god as a servant. Plus, as already said, it's just awkward to have the grail summon the owner of the Holy Grail.

Either way, you don't inject a literal God into the war and expect to do very well against them lmao.

That's assuming you go with the idea that he's just straight up fucking god. Yes, that version could never appear. But the version of him that's literally just a prophet would be perfectly viable.

Dosen't seem as though you read my whole argument, as I'm fairly certain I mentioned the fact he could appear in his "cool prophet" form, instead of his "son of god" or "literally juat fucking god" forms.

But anyway, I'm done now.


Umu.

TLDR Of Next post.

Lancer got chill.

TLDR of my next post

Clovis cock blocks Beserker, then disappears without a trace.

 

[Girouette]

Can't have that.

Lancer's just like

"Welp. Fights done, no sense going out now that we're tired. Let's go chill at your place and stuff, Master."

As I said. She chilled.

 

[Xel]

That's assuming you go with the idea that he's just straight up fucking god. Yes, that version could never appear. But the version of him that's literally just a prophet would be perfectly viable.

Dosen't seem as though you read my whole argument, as I'm fairly certain I mentioned the fact he could appear in his "cool prophet" form, instead of his "son of god" or "literally juat fucking god" forms.

But anyway, I'm done now.


Umu.

TLDR of my next post

Clovis cock blocks Beserker, then disappears without a trace.

There isn't a version of him "just being a prophet" unless you summon the Muslim Jesus. The Abrahamic Jesus is literally God, you can't separate him from that.

 

[Dalamus Ulom]

There isn't a version of him "just being a prophet" unless you summon the Muslim Jesus. The Abrahamic Jesus is literally God, you can't separate him from that.

What? Judaism Jesus is not literally god. That's only Christianity. Fairly certain the Jews think the son of god hasn't showed up yet, and that Jesus was just a prophet.


EDIT: UMU!

 

[Xel]

What? Judaism Jesus is not literally god. That's only Christianity. Fairly certain the Jews think the son of god hasn't showed up yet, and that Jesus was just a prophet.


EDIT: UMU!

Eh, nobody cares about the Jews. It isn't their Jesus that is world famous after all.

 

[Dalamus Ulom]

Eh, nobody cares about the Jews. It isn't their Jesus that is world famous after all.

Wow. Harsh considering they still worship the same god.

 

[Xel]

Wow. Harsh considering they still worship the same god.

So do Muslims, but their version of Jesus isn't world famous either

 

[Dalamus Ulom]

So do Muslims, but their version of Jesus isn't world famous either

Second place ain't half bad.

 

[Xel]

Second place ain't half bad.

It is when it's a race between two people. Nobody outside of Islam even know Jesus is a part of Islam. Everyone the world over, regardless of religion, know about the Christian Jesus though.

 

[Dalamus Ulom]

It is when it's a race between two people. Nobody outside of Islam even know Jesus is a part of Islam. Everyone the world over, regardless of religion, know about the Christian Jesus though.

And a solid chunk of those thought digital watches were a neat thing at one point. What of it?

 

[Girouette]

Can we not argue about this?

He can't be summoned in Fate because Nasu said he couldn't. Literally just because he morally objects to the Holy Grail War.

Kay? End.

 

[Godhowsae]

And a solid chunk of those thought digital watches were a neat thing at one point. What of it?

What's wrong with digital watches?

 

[Dalamus Ulom]

Can we not argue about this?

He can't be summoned in Fate because Nasu said he couldn't. Literally just because he morally objects to the Holy Grail War.

Kay? End.

Bet you were one of those people who used to think digital watches were a neat thing

 

[Xel]

And a solid chunk of those thought digital watches were a neat thing at one point. What of it?

Goes back to fame. A muslim or jewish Jesus wouldn't have anywhere near the fame that a christian Jesus would have.

Can we not argue about this?

He can't be summoned in Fate because Nasu said he couldn't. Literally just because he morally objects to the Holy Grail War.

Kay? End.

But that only applies to Christian Jesus. Muslim and Jewish Jesus don't have to do with the Holy Grail.

 

[Girouette]

Do you really have to argue about this? It's kind of pointless when you have an answer from the horses mouth, it's just conflict for the sake of contention.

 

[Xel]

Do you really have to argue about this? It's kind of pointless when you have an answer from the horses mouth, it's just conflict for the sake of contention.

I prefer debating the status of servants to talking about groping Lancer for 6 pages straight <.> Besides, Nasu only ever spoke of the Christian Jesus. His reasoning doesn't apply to Muslim or Jewish Jesus since neither of them had anything to do with the Holy Grail and thus have no reason to care about the grail's usage.

 

[Dalamus Ulom]

Goes back to fame. A muslim or jewish Jesus wouldn't have anywhere near the fame that a christian Jesus would have.



But that only applies to Christian Jesus. Muslim and Jewish Jesus don't have to do with the Holy Grail.

And a vampire vlad has far more fame than a romanian hero prince vlad.

And Achilles had nothing to do with the holy grail, too. Dosen't mean you can't summon the cocky bastard.


EDIT: Okay, misunderstood that second bit.

 

[Dalamus Ulom]

What's wrong with digital watches?

It's a joke from the Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy.

 

[Xel]

And a vampire vlad has far more fame than a romanian hero prince vlad.

And Achilles had nothing to do with the holy grail, too. Dosen't mean you can't summon the cocky bastard.

However in Romania Hero vlad is far more famous than vampire vlad, which is why he's 90% hero vlad in Apocrypha.

Also my comment about not having anything to do with the Grail is Girouette saying Nasu said Jesus can't be summoned because he'd object to the usage of the Holy Grail. But since neither Jewish or Muslim Jesus had anything to do with the Holy Grail, they wouldn't care about it so this reason doesn't apply to them.

 

[Girouette]

I'm just saying, I'm not a fan of pointless arguments that aren't going to solve anything meaningful, I'd rather have pointless stupid banter and antics.

Do whatever ya'll want. Though, I'm going to bed and have no authority.

 

[Dalamus Ulom]

However in Romania Hero vlad is far more famous than vampire vlad, which is why he's 90% hero vlad in Apocrypha.

Also my comment about not having anything to do with the Grail is Girouette saying Nasu said Jesus can't be summoned because he'd object to the usage of the Holy Grail. But since neither Jewish or Muslim Jesus had anything to do with the Holy Grail, they wouldn't care about it so this reason doesn't apply to them.

Check out my edit. Misunderstood what you meant.

 

[Girouette]

Also. Nasu didn't say objecting to usage of the holy grail, he said he'd object to the war , bloodshed and conflict, so he wouldn't participate. I feel that would apply to all incarnations.

Night.

 

[Xel]

You could probably summon Jewish or Muslim Jesus, since they both pale in comparison to Christian Jesus in terms of power and fame. So the Grail could probably get away with shoving them into a servant container.

 

[Dalamus Ulom]

You could probably summon Jewish or Muslim Jesus, since they both pale in comparison to Christian Jesus in terms of power and fame. So the Grail could probably get away with shoving them into a servant container.

Excelent. To celebrate my victory, I shall now feat upon a twinkie.

 

[hudhouse]

You could probably summon Jewish or Muslim Jesus, since they both pale in comparison to Christian Jesus in terms of power and fame. So the Grail could probably get away with shoving them into a servant container.

Xel can you do me a favor and sorry to put it so violently but shut up about Jesus? No one cares anymore... we never cared about power...