Dice Shadows of the Setting Sun (OOC)

[WlfSamurai]

Oh, okay, so it becomes difficulty 3 and I succeed with a net of 13 instead of 12.

Yes. And I’m new to the “feats of strenght”. Aren’t all strength minimums 3 to attempt feats of strength? Or are they variable.

 

[WlfSamurai]

Nope, never mind. That’s the strength minimum you have to have to attempt them.

 

[Random Word]

They are highly variable. You can't attempt even the easiest Feat of Strength without Strength 3, but it goes up to Strength 10 (as in can't attempt without at least Strength 10) from there in increments of ~3. Since Sigrdrífa can reliably get ~45 successes on a Feat of Strength, she can effectively accomplish Strength 20ish feats.

The book doesn't offer any insight on what feats might look like above Strength 10, except to mention the superman problem of leverage and the durability of materials. That's why I want the Craft Charm that makes things indestructible. Unfortunately it requires Craft 5.

Page 231 offers this table:

Spoiler: Feats of Strength Table

Successes Example Feat
Strength 3+ feats
1 Lift a full-grown man or an anvil. Break a pine board with a kick.
2 Tote a bale of cotton on one shoulder. Kick an oak door open.
3 Lift a mule. Break a sword over your knee.
4 Lift a full-grown warhorse. Bend an iron bar with both hands.
Strength 5+ feats
5 Lift an ox. Pull a fully laden wagon. Bend a horseshoe into a pretzel.
6 Throw a mule. Snap an axe haft over your knee. Kick an oak door to splinters.
7 Lift a boulder. Throw a full-grown warhorse.
8 Lift a rhinocerous. Snap iron manacles. Slowly bash through a brick wall.
9 Throw an ox. Twist a steel lock off a door with your bare hands. Kick down an iron-shod door.
Strength 7+ feats
10 Lift an elephant. Raise a drawbridge by hand. Punch through a brick wall.
11 Raise a locked portcullis by hand. Punch through the wooden gate of a fortress.
12 Pull a fully laden wagon from a sand trap. Rip iron bars out of their stone settings with one hand. Rip loose the stone supports of a city gate.
13 Lift a boulder with one hand. Tear down the pillars holding up a mighty temple.
14 Lift a tyrant lizard. Carry an enormous statue on one shoulder. Tip over a Guild wagon. Push open a locked and reinforced fortress gate.
Strength 10+ feats
15 Uproot a mighty tree. Slowly bash through the stone wall of a fortress.
16 Lift a mammoth. Hurl an elephant. Tear apart the welded steel bars of a portcullis.
17 Pull an entire caravan, chained cart-to-cart. Snap a mighty tree in half.
18 Lift a mighty tree with one hand. Crack a boulder in two. Rip a portcullis from its setting.
19 Throw a mammoth. Slowly push over a stone tower. Tow a boat away from a waterfall while on the shore.
20 Tear open the earth to create a crevasse. Smash through ten feet of solid stone. Lift a yeddim or outpull a team of them. Tow a boat away from a waterfall while swimming.

 

[WlfSamurai]

They are highly variable. You can't attempt even the easiest Feat of Strength without Strength 3, but it goes up to Strength 10 (as in can't attempt without at least Strength 10) from there in increments of ~3. Since Sigrdrífa can reliably get ~45 successes on a Feat of Strength, she can effectively accomplish Strength 20ish feats.

The book doesn't offer any insight on what feats might look like above Strength 10, except to mention the superman problem of leverage and the durability of materials. That's why I want the Craft Charm that makes things indestructible. Unfortunately it requires Craft 5.

Page 231 offers this table:

Spoiler: Feats of Strength Table

Successes Example Feat
Strength 3+ feats
1 Lift a full-grown man or an anvil. Break a pine board with a kick.
2 Tote a bale of cotton on one shoulder. Kick an oak door open.
3 Lift a mule. Break a sword over your knee.
4 Lift a full-grown warhorse. Bend an iron bar with both hands.
Strength 5+ feats
5 Lift an ox. Pull a fully laden wagon. Bend a horseshoe into a pretzel.
6 Throw a mule. Snap an axe haft over your knee. Kick an oak door to splinters.
7 Lift a boulder. Throw a full-grown warhorse.
8 Lift a rhinocerous. Snap iron manacles. Slowly bash through a brick wall.
9 Throw an ox. Twist a steel lock off a door with your bare hands. Kick down an iron-shod door.
Strength 7+ feats
10 Lift an elephant. Raise a drawbridge by hand. Punch through a brick wall.
11 Raise a locked portcullis by hand. Punch through the wooden gate of a fortress.
12 Pull a fully laden wagon from a sand trap. Rip iron bars out of their stone settings with one hand. Rip loose the stone supports of a city gate.
13 Lift a boulder with one hand. Tear down the pillars holding up a mighty temple.
14 Lift a tyrant lizard. Carry an enormous statue on one shoulder. Tip over a Guild wagon. Push open a locked and reinforced fortress gate.
Strength 10+ feats
15 Uproot a mighty tree. Slowly bash through the stone wall of a fortress.
16 Lift a mammoth. Hurl an elephant. Tear apart the welded steel bars of a portcullis.
17 Pull an entire caravan, chained cart-to-cart. Snap a mighty tree in half.
18 Lift a mighty tree with one hand. Crack a boulder in two. Rip a portcullis from its setting.
19 Throw a mammoth. Slowly push over a stone tower. Tow a boat away from a waterfall while on the shore.
20 Tear open the earth to create a crevasse. Smash through ten feet of solid stone. Lift a yeddim or outpull a team of them. Tow a boat away from a waterfall while swimming.

Yeah, I was looking at those. Next time, I’ll be sure to include the minimum in what I call out. Nice work, though. She’s awesome.

 

[Random Word]

I didn't do any work! I just bought the six printed 'be good at Feats of Strength' Charms

 

[WlfSamurai]

So, I was just writing a post including a response to Tyree, Sherwood . Basically, what she’s doing is going to take a Social Influence action to accomplish. I don’t think you need to leverage intimacies for all of the actions, but some of them require you to. To me, I could see it being a persuade or inspire action.

Thoughts?

 

[Sherwood]

I'm trying to put their minds at ease, so I am thinking that Persuade is more along the lines of what I'm trying to do. What dice do I roll for that, and did I manage to get any stunt dice for my talking?

 

[Rykon]

I think the ideal action here based on social rules is an inspire roll. I'd say Charisma + Presence against their resolve modified by whatever magnitude of fear they have right now.

 

[Sherwood]

I can go with that.

 

[WlfSamurai]

I'm trying to put their minds at ease, so I am thinking that Persuade is more along the lines of what I'm trying to do. What dice do I roll for that, and did I manage to get any stunt dice for my talking?

Oh yes! Take a two-point stunt. I think a persuade also would work well. But, I think it relits on you leveraging an intimacy for it.

Random Word , take a two-point stunt for your action, as well.

 

[Sherwood]

That gives me a total of 8 dice. I'll put that up in the IC thread.

 

[WlfSamurai]

I think the ideal action here based on social rules is an inspire roll. I'd say Charisma + Presence against their resolve modified by whatever magnitude of fear they have right now.

I can go with that.

That would work too. And I don‘t think you have to worry about working from their intimacies on that one.

 

[Rykon]

Just a quick reminder, there is a multi-target penalty for social influence. I almost forgot too.

 

[Sherwood]

Well, I rolled shitty, but I'm trying.

 

[WlfSamurai]

Just a quick reminder, there is a multi-target penalty for social influence. I almost forgot too.

Yeah, but this is just to the scarred woman. FYI, her resolve is 3. Where are the rules for what fear will add to her resolve?

 

[Random Word]

+1 for the Major Stunt, so 4 hits, and if you aren't going to spend the WP you received for the Major Stunt on a Charm you can always buy another hit (or just go over your max willpower, but those go away eventually).

 

[Random Word]

Powerful emotions are treated as Major Intimacies, so if they're leveraged to resist they boost Resolve by 3.

 

[Sherwood]

I guess that the only good thing going for me is that I'm doing my best to be non-threatening, so if I blow this completely, I'm not looking foolish trying to intimidate someone and just being goofy.

 

[Rykon]

Yeah, but this is just to the scarred woman. FYI, her resolve is 3. Where are the rules for what fear will add to her resolve?

I would treat it like an intimacy and you are the judge of how intense it is as the ST. Minor, major, or Defining.

Once you get the hang of the social system in 3E it's pretty consistent yet flexible.

Edit: I think Random Word is right, default assumption is major.

 

[WlfSamurai]

Ah, oKay. So, her fear-based “intimacy” for this situation would add to her resolve while her “intimacy” to her tribe would subtract from it, if I’m reading it right. So, since they’re both Major, they cancel out and she stays at resolve 3.

 

[Random Word]

Almost. Intimacies leveraged in defence (to boost resolve) have +1 strength over intimacies leveraged to weaken resolve. So Major is +3 Resolve and -2 Resolve, respectively.

 

[WlfSamurai]

Oh no! It’s a +3, but a -2! So, it would become resolve 4!

 

[WlfSamurai]

Almost. Intimacies leveraged in defence (to boost resolve) have +1 strength over intimacies leveraged to weaken resolve. So Major is +3 Resolve and -2 Resolve, respectively.

Yes, right as I was typing it. LOL.

 

[WlfSamurai]

Sorry. Thanks for talking it through with me. The social system isn’t very intuitive to me. So, seeing it in action really helps.

 

[WlfSamurai]

Hey guys, I’ll try to recap and clarify what’s happening in our scene just for ease. Give me to today to do that.