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Hibiki did not speak. But when Takemi senpai used Marin Karin, he uttered a single, "Where's the Direct Command tactic?"
 
Wandering Hollow said:
Reason why people enjoyed P3P more then P3. That and FeMC.
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Shame that FES had all that extra content and...well, walking around town. I liked P3 a lot more than P4, keep hoping we'll get some kind of rerelease with the Direct Command tactic on PS4 at some point. With P5 on the horizon it seems like we're past that point but there's always some anniversary I guess.


Hoping for Golden and Freedom Wars to get a port as well just so I can put away my Playstation TV for good.
 
Honestly, I do prefer the P3 kids to the P4 kids.  That's not to say I dislike the P4s.  It's a shame the pacing of P3 is so bottom heavy; the beginning is really slow and hard to get through, but it's really worth it.  I got into the series through LPs, and the P3P one I read made me cry in the end.  Aigis... ;_; 
 
Veradana said:
Honestly, I do prefer the P3 kids to the P4 kids.  That's not to say I dislike the P4s.  It's a shame the pacing of P3 is so bottom heavy; the beginning is really slow and hard to get through, but it's really worth it.  I got into the series through LPs, and the P3P one I read made me cry in the end.  Aigis... ;_; 
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The P3 cast was just so much more outlandish. I want more party members like Koromaru, Ken, and Aegis. Now it seems like we're just getting a team of high school students and one mascot character which - Teddie is fantastic and the P5 cat (whose name escapes me) looks cool - but I'd much rather have straight up animals. Like, "hey I found this little trash bandit eating the sandwich I threw out, pretty sure he can use a Persona".


P3 had serious pacing issues, yeah. Getting through that my first time was a real slog. Dropped it my first attempt since that was my entry to the series and I wasn't really attached to the concept yet. This was also before I got into JoJo's Bizarre Adventure and fell in love with stands which are almost the same thing so nothing really motivating me to stick with it other than being a "really interesting weeb simulator", as a friend of mine put it. Glad I did though.
 
Ammy said:
The P3 cast was just so much more outlandish. I want more party members like Koromaru, Ken, and Aegis. Now it seems like we're just getting a team of high school students and one mascot character which - Teddie is fantastic and the P5 cat (whose name escapes me) looks cool - but I'd much rather have straight up animals. Like, "hey I found this little trash bandit eating the sandwich I threw out, pretty sure he can use a Persona".


P3 had serious pacing issues, yeah. Getting through that my first time was a real slog. Dropped it my first attempt since that was my entry to the series and I wasn't really attached to the concept yet. This was also before I got into JoJo's Bizarre Adventure and fell in love with stands which are almost the same thing so nothing really motivating me to stick with it other than being a "really interesting weeb simulator", as a friend of mine put it. Glad I did though.
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Speaking of Jojo, apparently, Persona was originally inspired by Part 3 and the stands.  (P1 came out ~1996)  Then the creators added the Jungian Psychology Spin to it.  Somehow it managed to make money.  


Also, did you know that ATLUS was basically bankrupt when they made P4?  Because of this, it was basically built on top of P3 to save money.  Thankfully, they're making enough money now, so they can make really stylish animation and models like in DAN and P5.   I'm still hoping they'll consider a P3 Dancing game, so I can see all my favs dance in lovingly animated choreography.  
 
@Wandering Hollow Yup. Joke aside, that's literally one of the reasons as to why Evokers take the form of guns. Because of that scene.


Reasoning for the tarot being present in the series is also largely due to the villains from Stardust Crusaders, as well as the hero stands (Star, Magician, Hermit, Hierophant, Chariot, and Fool in order of their appearance iirc).


Persona 4 also shares a ton of traits with Diamond is Unbreakable, the next part in the series. Both are supernatural mysteries which involve a small town where teenagers with mysterious powers are seeking out a serial killer. Even the art style is extremely similar between the two.


Edit: Veradena beat me to it.
 
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the Joke is that Margaret made them do it.


someone on the team must be a be fan
 
Even though it's just now starting to gain traction in the west, JoJo has been stupidly massive in Japan for a long time now. Think the series is around three decades old and still going strong. Once you get into it you start to notice references in a ton of different things.
 
I've read Part 1 and the beginning of Part 2.  I know it's been going on since like, the mid-80s.  I just want to see Dio eat shit like he deserves.  Jonathan and Erina deserved more.
 
I felt P3 had a better story, pacing and plot wise. while I felt P4 characters were more fleshed out by the end and I cared for them just a bit more than P3's cast.


BUT none of those compare to the almighty P2 duology, ya filthy casuls! The characters and the story are superior to both future games. The plot was fucking ridiculous. We got cults, Nazi mechs, and Hitler as a boss! And despite it's over-the-top-ness, the grounded characters and themes balances things out. And that's the key part to why I like it so much. /rant over


Anyway, never watched or read Jojo stuff. What should I expect of it if I ever check the series out?
 
(But I love the P1-P2 kids too.  Eriko and Yukino are my favs)


For Jojo, all I can say is that it's very stylish.  The anatomy can get pretty extreme, and the powers are wild.  Just in Part 1, the Hero learns to use specialised breathing techniques to infuse his fists with the power of the sun, so he can fight zombie vampires.  
 
Here's a subtitled video of Part 1 intro.  Jooooojo!
 
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I couldn't get through P1. The first-person dungeon view killed me and the gameplay in general felt too archaic.


That part 1 intro for Jojo has piqued my interest. I can't watch typical anime anymore so I hope Jojo will be a change of pace if I do check it out.
 
Blu said:
I felt P3 had a better story, pacing and plot wise. while I felt P4 characters were more fleshed out by the end and I cared for them just a bit more than P3's cast.


BUT none of those compare to the almighty P2 duology, ya filthy casuls! The characters and the story are superior to both future games. The plot was fucking ridiculous. We got cults, Nazi mechs, and Hitler as a boss! And despite it's over-the-top-ness, the grounded characters and themes balances things out. And that's the key part to why I like it so much. /rant over


Anyway, never watched or read Jojo stuff. What should I expect of it if I ever check the series out?
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I've been considering playing the PSP version of Persona 2 actually, largely because of the Hitler boss. I just gotta know what's up there.


JoJo's Bizarre Adventure is the story of the Joestar family. There are currently eight parts in the manga, and the anime is airing part four at the moment. With each one there is a new protagonist in a new time period, so they're all fairly self contained in their themes and have their own identity which is neat. Unlike pretty much every other shounen manga there are plenty of points to take a break. Characters, attacks, and stands are extremely blatant references to rock music outside of Japan. Stupid poses are everywhere, and it can get fabulous in really great ways.


Part 1: Fist of the North Star ripoff where Jonathan Joestar combats his adopted brother Dio, who is a charismatic self-absorbed vampire.


Part 2: It's a little bit fabulous.


Part 3: Stands appear. International journey to save a family member. One member of the hero team is scarred for life by bathrooms.


Part 4: Pretty much just P4 with ridiculous powers. Stands are now straight up named after rock music - Killer Queen, Crazy Diamond, Harvest, and such.


Part 5: Super powered male fashion model's quest to become the leader of the Italian mafia.


Part 6: All female prison. Powers get even more ridiculous.


Part 7: Cross country horseback race. Dinosaurs are involved.


Part 8: Amnesiac dressed in a sailor outfit. Currently ongoing. One of the weirder ones.
 
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Ammy said:
I've been considering playing the PSP version of Persona 2 actually, largely because of the Hitler boss. I just gotta know what's up there.


JoJo's Bizarre Adventure is the story of the Joestar family. There are currently eight parts in the manga, and the current anime is airing part four at the moment. With each part there is a new protagonist in a new time period, so each part is fairly self contained in its themes and have their own identity which is neat. Unlike pretty much every other shounen manga there are plenty of points to take a break since they're largely self contained. Characters, attacks, and stands are largely extremely blatant references to rock music outside of Japan. Stupid poses are everywhere, and it can get fabulous in really great ways.


Part 1: Fist of the North Star ripoff where Jonathan Joestar combats his adopted brother Dio, who is a charismatic self-absorbed vampire.


Part 2: It's a little bit fabulous.


Part 3: Stands appear. International journey to save a family member. One member of the hero team is scarred for life by bathrooms.


Part 4: Pretty much just P4 with ridiculous powers. Stands are now straight up named after rock music - Killer Queen, Crazy Diamond, Harvest, and such.


Part 5: Super powered male fashion model's quest to become the leader of the Italian mafia.


Part 6: All female prison. Powers get even more ridiculous.


Part 7: Cross country horseback race. Dinosaurs are involved.


Part 8: Amnesiac dressed in a sailor outfit. Currently ongoing. One of the weirder ones.
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If you wanna know about the Hitler part, the hint's in this RP's plot. 
 
Blu said:
I couldn't get through P1. The first-person dungeon view killed me and the gameplay in general felt too archaic.


That part 1 intro for Jojo has piqued my interest. I can't watch typical anime anymore so I hope Jojo will be a change of pace if I do check it out.





 
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I've just read the manga adaptation of P1.  It leaves some things out, unfortunately, like all but the first part of the Snow Queen Quest (That's Yukino's Time To Shine!!).  I haven't seen any playthroughs of P1, so I don't know much else.  I've played PQ though, so the first person dungeons shouldn't be too awful, I hope.  I'm pretty bad at games though.
 
Now I'm not a big fan of really over-the-top shit and I despise ecchi anime (I'm assuming this won't be a thing in Jojo from what I'm seeing), but Jojo looks stylish as all hell which I enjoy. Is the over-the-top-ness balance out in any way?

Wandering Hollow said:
If you wanna know about the Hitler part, the hint's in this RP's plot. 
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*wink, wink*


EDIT: @Veradana Speaking of Yukino, she plays a big part in P2 Innocent Sin.
 
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@Blu


Yeah, I know, lol.  I've read/watched playthroughs of all the games except P1.  Yukino is the Coolest. It'd've been cool if she'd been playable in P2:EP. 
 
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@Wandering Hollow Well that just means I have to grind through the game quickly now. I'd rather get the full experience.


@Blu It gets really over the top, but a lot of it actually helps the story in that conflict is a bit unique from a lot of other shows. All of the weird personality quirks people have don't really overpower their entire character, and fighting is largely dependent on outwitting someone rather than discovering generic power ups in the eleventh hour. For example one of the most deadly enemies that appear in a particular part - their entire showdown is only two hands of poker.


Parts one and two are a bit more straightforward, but it keeps getting stranger as it goes on. I think it's a really fun ride. I guess what I'm trying to say is that despite being so crazy at times, it doesn't feel particularly forced for the universe they're in and the journey they're on.
 
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