['Neath Shattered Skies and Scattered Stars] General Discussion - Teams, Plots, and Mayhem

SephirothSage said:
Do individual's hailing from a DB Family have the Dynast training?
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I don't think they're technically required to, and I very much doubt they it for free, but it would make sense to try and get it.
 
SephirothSage said:
Do individual's hailing from a DB Family have the Dynast training?
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Full dynast training required, unless you led the Realm on your own VERY young. And you'll need to take the appropriate skills for whatever secondary school they attended. If they never graduated then they just need at least one dot in each skill they would have ended with, but if they did graduate then they need the full number of dots.
 
Crappp. I have to invest in at least a few skills I will never use.... Shittt... and no, he didn't even leave Imperial City until Twenty One, because, well- he had finally gotten completely sure. He was never going to Exalt.
 
[QUOTE="Tepet Doneno]Full dynast training required, unless you led the Realm on your own VERY young. And you'll need to take the appropriate skills for whatever secondary school they attended. If they never graduated then they just need at least one dot in each skill they would have ended with, but if they did graduate then they need the full number of dots.

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That seems a little unfair. DBs have to take them, but are compensated by having 35 Ability dots in total, we have 28, and I'm stretched pretty thin as it is.
 
Esbilon said:
That seems a little unfair. DBs have to take them, but are compensated by having 35 Ability dots in total, we have 28, and I'm stretched pretty thin as it is.
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True, but you're trying to blend into the Realm. And your character is starting there. It doesn't seem logical that she'd have neglected her training, even if she was just an unExalted.


... Alright. Anyone starting in the Realm gets 35 ability dots, but they must have the Dynastic training. To compensate, anyone not of the Realm gets either: an extra two dots of Infamy, an extra two dots in any Attribute of their choice, two extra dots to distribute among their Background, or an extra Charm. Does that sound fair, or does the compensation need some adjusting?
 
[QUOTE="Tepet Doneno]True, but you're trying to blend into the Realm. And your character is starting there. It doesn't seem logical that she'd have neglected her training, even if she was just an unExalted.
... Alright. Anyone starting in the Realm gets 35 ability dots, but they must have the Dynastic training. To compensate, anyone not of the Realm gets either: an extra two dots of Infamy, an extra two dots in any Attribute of their choice, two extra dots to distribute among their Background, or an extra Charm. Does that sound fair, or does the compensation need some adjusting?

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Not if you actually do mean Attributes and not Abilities. An extra charm is also quite a bit more powerful than two ability dots or two background dots.
 
Esbilon said:
Not if you actually do mean Attributes and not Abilities. An extra charm is also quite a bit more powerful than two ability dots or two background dots.
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Mh... Eh, it's easier to just say everyone gets 35 ability dots. Dynasts do need to have their training, but that really locks them into their abilities. On the other hand, they are choosing to be part of a very influential -albeit steadily collapsing- power structure.


35 ability dots for all players. Anyone form the Blessed Isle must have Dynast training.
 
[QUOTE="Tepet Doneno]Mh... Eh, it's easier to just say everyone gets 35 ability dots. Dynasts do need to have their training, but that really locks them into their abilities. On the other hand, they are choosing to be part of a very influential -albeit steadily collapsing- power structure.
35 ability dots for all players. Anyone form the Blessed Isle must have Dynast training.

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That is indeed the easiest thing to say, and I'm perfectly fine with that judgement.

However, I don't think it's quite fair. We are only part of that power structure through Backing and similar backgrounds that we also pay for. And several of these ability dots are things I am never going to use. Case in point: Archery, Melee and Ride. I also doubt I'll ever use my 3 dots of Bureaucracy for anything.


A fairer solution would, to my mind, be giving everyone else only 32 ability dots, but it's a minor point, and I don't like taking away other people's stuff.
 
So, in all this mechanics talk, we seem to have forgotten the plotting and the teaming up.


Anyone starting in or near the Imperial City? Or in touch with the All-Seeing Eye?
 
Well- my Charachter's first plan is to meet up with his Bond-Holder, then Impersonate himself, pretending to hae exalted as a DB. Or to have not exalted at all.
 
Actually, it appears that Rules As Written say that Lunars only feel a Bond to Solars, not Abyssals or Infernals. Or at least that it's a matter of ST's choice if they do. And I have a hard time imagining that the Bond would be treated better by the Lunar Exaltation being twisted.


It's up to you and the ST of course, but it's something to keep in mind.
 
Esbilon said:
Actually, it appears that Rules As Written say that Lunars only feel a Bond to Solars, not Abyssals or Infernals. Or at least that it's a matter of ST's choice if they do. And I have a hard time imagining that the Bond would be treated better by the Lunar Exaltation being twisted.
It's up to you and the ST of course, but it's something to keep in mind.
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I thought rules as written said that Lunars did, in fact, feel a Solar bond to the Primordial Exalts? Abyssals do not gain any resonance from acting like normal people so long as their Mate is around, and one of the main paths to defection for an Infernal comes from their Silver Pact Mate convincing the Infernal to quietly slip off with them and abandon the Reclamation.


From the Infernals Handbook:


Infernals fill the same niche that Solars do, but in the Green Sun Princes, Lunars see the price of their failure to guard their mates, who have become twisted and evil.


And the Abyssals:


The question of whether Abyssal Exalted gain the benefits of having Lunar mate is left to Storyteller discretion.


So overall, I'm just going to rule that all Solaroids get a Lunar Mate. Whether the Mate feels an instinctive revulsion rather than intimacy will be dependent on the nature of the Solaroid - are they an antihero, a neutral party, or a straight-up villain?
 
The books are rather vague, but if you read the Bond sidebar in Lunars page 20 and the entry on Lunars in the Infernal Storytelling section, I think you'll get the impression that there isn't much of a bond.


And personally, I feel that interesting roleplaying can come out of having a Mate bond context which doesn't fit the personality of the non-Solar in question.


Incidentally, how would you rate Taminoko on that scale?
 
Esbilon said:
The books are rather vague, but if you read the Bond sidebar in Lunars page 20 and the entry on Lunars in the Infernal Storytelling section, I think you'll get the impression that there isn't much of a bond.
And personally, I feel that interesting roleplaying can come out of having a Mate bond context which doesn't fit the personality of the non-Solar in question.


Incidentally, how would you rate Taminoko on that scale?
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Neutral Party. She's working for the bad guys, but hasn't down anything particularly malicious. Yet.
 
I hate the Sidereal's Ox Body Technique. Its the worst of the whole lot.
 
Sherwood said:
I hate the Sidereal's Ox Body Technique. Its the worst of the whole lot.
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Sidereals do not make for good tanks. Base your defense on not getting hit ;)
 
Yeah, I just like having a little bit of cushion for those attacks that get through the defenses.
 
Sherwood said:
Yeah, I just like having a little bit of cushion for those attacks that get through the defenses.
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That's what soak is for, and while it may not be fashionable, Starmetal Superheavy Plate does have an awful lot of soak. Getting hit and not having large soak was never an option for anyone, with the possible exception of certain Lunar and Malfeas builds.
 
But the various Charms of the MA tree don't work when wearing armor, along with my other Soak enhancer. I have enough defense to keep me alive (probably), I was just venting that I'd like extra health levels and don't have them.
 
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