Flagg
The Most Electrifying Man in Sports Entertainment
What?
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Ker'ion
Primordial of Abstract Logic
*poke*
http://keychain.patternspider.net/archive/koc0005.html
Faen Luif doesn't wear glasses. Different Siddie. Same Caste, so it could be a new incarnation, but not the same meatbag.
http://keychain.patternspider.net/archive/koc0005.html
Faen Luif doesn't wear glasses. Different Siddie. Same Caste, so it could be a new incarnation, but not the same meatbag.
Flagg
The Most Electrifying Man in Sports Entertainment
Yeah, I get that. I don't get the part where she's simultaneously herself and not herself.
Ker'ion
Primordial of Abstract Logic
Reincarnation of the soul and shard into a new body. Nifty trick, that.
Millenium old gets a good max Essence, so lots of Essnece memories. Same personality peeking back through.
Millenium old gets a good max Essence, so lots of Essnece memories. Same personality peeking back through.
Flagg
The Most Electrifying Man in Sports Entertainment
Ok.. and which comic explains this?
Ker'ion
Primordial of Abstract Logic
It's Jukashi's storyline, good luck finding it. If it even exists on this plane.
ShadowDragon8685
Elder Member
I've had enough of these @*%^)@ing plotholes on this @%^&*@ing plane!
Oh, what?
There's no plotholes?
Okay, I'll cancel Morgan Freeman's appointment to come, then.
Also: Hurrah for drawn trousers! Especially since they're shorts.
Visible sandals are also worth a mention, too.
Oh, what?
There's no plotholes?
Okay, I'll cancel Morgan Freeman's appointment to come, then.
Also: Hurrah for drawn trousers! Especially since they're shorts.
Visible sandals are also worth a mention, too.
Smeggedoff
Elder Member
Shia LeBoef..uh Faen Luif's got the same Tiara as the mystery keyblade weilding siddie though, protege maybe?
Flagg
The Most Electrifying Man in Sports Entertainment
Why can't it just be the same person again?
Chaka
Cuddle-fiend
She describes herself as being over 1,000 years old. The forging of the keys took place shortly after the Primordial War. there are no living Exalted who fought in the Primordial War, it's too long ago, even for the Sidereal lifespan. Her age places her around the Usurpation, maybe a little before. Therefore, different person, though likely the bearer of Faen Luif's Shard, same way that Misho carries the shard of the orichalcum bearer (don't forget, Misho is the name of the first age solar. This current incarnation has forgotten everything, and thus does not know his own name) and Marena carries the Exaltation of the Moonsilver bearer.
merle
Member
Thank you for yet another reminder that Exalted reincarnation is weird. I don't think I'll ever get the hang of this...Chaka said:
cyl
Creepy smile
Well, unless he got the gem of immortality... then he could be the same person. :roll:
ShadowDragon8685
Elder Member
Held in stasis?
Robot clone?
Biological clone?
Time travel?
Biological descendant?
Also, how do we know that Marena is the bearer of the Lunar Shard that was present there? Couldn't she just be some random Lunar who got swept up in everything by meeting Misho and adopting her friend's quest as her own?
Robot clone?
Biological clone?
Time travel?
Biological descendant?
Also, how do we know that Marena is the bearer of the Lunar Shard that was present there? Couldn't she just be some random Lunar who got swept up in everything by meeting Misho and adopting her friend's quest as her own?
Jukashi
Four Thousand Club
Yeah, how do we know?ShadowDragon8685 said:
Regarding visible trouser legs; Marena's male form quite clearly has visible baggy pants.
cyl
Creepy smile
We can't know Marena's got the first age essence of the lunars in the first comics... mainly because totems and caste may vary from one to another incarnation.
But I'd like to know more about that promess Misho made to her (yeah I read it all from the beginning this morning ^^)... you've got excellent hooks
But I'd like to know more about that promess Misho made to her (yeah I read it all from the beginning this morning ^^)... you've got excellent hooks
Smeggedoff
Elder Member
it would seem you are correct sir, bravo. this would leave me one course of action by jove.Jukashi said:
no witnesses
also, is it odd that Marena looks like she's wearing less when her tattoos aren't visible?
Chaka
Cuddle-fiend
Sidereal Exalted cannot extend their lifespan by any means (according to MoEP: Sidereals). However, they are naturally the longest lived of the Exalted, topping out around 5,000, as compared to Solars and Lunars, who rarely make 4,000.cyl said:
cyl
Creepy smile
Why do you think they tried to offer Chejop a gem of Immortality then ? (same book)Chaka said:
Chaka
Cuddle-fiend
Iconsistency in the fluff of a white wolf book? Shocker!
The fact remains that according to the rules fluff, that would not have worked. Which is also the simplest explanation for why Chejop Kejak refused it.
The fact remains that according to the rules fluff, that would not have worked. Which is also the simplest explanation for why Chejop Kejak refused it.
Ok, I think I can explain this. The Celestial Exaltation is basically a "Second Soul" that bonds with your mortal soul and seperates from it upon death. The Mortal Soul enters Lethe, the Afterlife, or Oblivion (Now, for my money, there's not much practical difference between Lethe and Oblivion, really. And the Afterlife kinda sucks.) The Exaltation returns to Lytek, (or to it's monstrance, in the case of abyssals) who cleans off the memories as best as he can and sends it out to find a new bearer.merle said:
merle
Member
...right. So why does it carry stuff like appearance and memories with it, if it's not part of the actual person's soul?Galen said:
Appearance, it doesn't. As Mew Cai pointed out, that is a really freaky coincidence.merle said:
The Exaltation is a sort of soul-symbiote that binds to both the lower and higher soul. Human memories are also bound to both souls (which is why there are ghosts and such), and the Exaltation shares them, as it shares everything else with both souls until the separation of death. The Exaltation is perfectly capable of carrying a lifetime of memories, but in most cases, Lytek, God of Exaltation, 'cleans' the Shard so that it has very few memories. It's not clear in this case whether he did this because he knew modern Misho would react oddly to it (he does get a say in who Exalts, and basically just makes the choices and gets them rubber-stamped, if you go by canon), or if the massive amount of remaining memories caused the amnesia in the first place.
In addition, Exaltations carry unique baggage, such as the Solar-Lunar bond and metaphysical relationships (being friends with a Solar if your past incarnation was friends with his past incarnation). To make a poor metaphor, they are basically extra hard drives that you back up your current drive on and store some extra stuff on too, including your favorite applications.
cyl
Creepy smile
My calls on the erased memories are
1- the gods do not want the exalts to remember that they are servants, when they die, they have to figure it out all again. Less risks of a coup d'Etat.
2- implant the complete memories of a super powered being who lived for millenias into the brain of a 16 years old kid can be pretty cruel... kid would go nuts.
1- the gods do not want the exalts to remember that they are servants, when they die, they have to figure it out all again. Less risks of a coup d'Etat.
2- implant the complete memories of a super powered being who lived for millenias into the brain of a 16 years old kid can be pretty cruel... kid would go nuts.
