General Deth Glitch
Two Thousand Club
Also, you going to accept my request to join the HP?
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Fallout based Nationbuilding
- Thread starter TheIrradiatedWaffle
- Start date
TheIrradiatedWaffle
The Only Cool Waffle You'll Ever Meet
So what was this about you rquest about the river?
General Deth Glitch
Two Thousand Club
Well if your claiming NY, then that river would be our border, therefor we would have to have some form of semi(or fully)-official stance on the matter and how we interact and would be aware of each other and a good deal about one another (which I feel would have a good affect on my nations lore)
TheIrradiatedWaffle
The Only Cool Waffle You'll Ever Meet
Well, im open to trade, though I didd go through war with the east coast bos and destroyed LP amd became communist for a while. Im also the most prominent power on the west coast and have several states economically tied to me
General Deth Glitch
Two Thousand Club
LP?
TheIrradiatedWaffle
The Only Cool Waffle You'll Ever Meet
Liberty Prime
General Deth Glitch
Two Thousand Club
Ohhhh, I thought it was a faction and was confused. So you took out the commonwealth factions?
TheIrradiatedWaffle
The Only Cool Waffle You'll Ever Meet
No, they r still there, weaker without lp
General Deth Glitch
Two Thousand Club
So what is our start date? I am sure you probably told people but I have not seen it :/
General Deth Glitch
Two Thousand Club
Pat
Three Thousand Club
2290. Three years after Fallout 4. Nine years after Fallout New Vegas.
Guys. 'Member when the NCR had nothing we've seen or heard of that could compare and the NCR and the Legion were the only two factions that had most if not all of a state? I 'member.
General Deth Glitch
Two Thousand Club
Shut up pat. you want an RP where everyone controls one town? Also the truth is the lore just isn't there.
Boethiah
Prince of Plots, Queen of Shadows
We need an RP where we start off as an infant and grow our nations from there.
MrThe
Mystery Man
Hey guys so I made a map of the factions that were submitted. But it keeps saying the upload failed.
General Deth Glitch
Two Thousand Club
Been in a few of those start the nation real small one and they never work, except a colonization one, but that was colonies so slightly different
Either, try reducing the file size or, try uploading somewhere else and linking here
MrThe
Mystery Man
He is right. It is no fun when you are TINY you can't do anything.
Pat
Three Thousand Club
Entire states are excessive if every faction is going to claim that much territory. And these big populations would be pretty hard to achieve, and would be mentioned in Fallout 3 or Fallout 4 if they existed. Like there's only a few hundred, if even that, civil wastelanders around all of Boston. Obviously that'll be scaled up if game limitations weren't had, but I bet it wouldn't break five thousand. Same goes for D.C. and most major cities. Other than possibly New York I guess. The East Coast shouldn't really have as many people as the West Coast. The NCR is a unique powerhouse. I just have about 25 thousand people. Which is reasonable given that Las Vegas wasn't directly hit, though the city eventually suffered the same radioactive weather and devastation the rest of the world did, and because of NCR settlers, natives, and Vault Dwellers from Vault 21, 34, and a few tribes. And that it's been nine years since Fallout New Vegas and as the infrastructure to support a larger population grew more people would immigrate. Like Nightkin, tribals, slaves from the Legion, and even more NCR settlers.
MrThe
Mystery Man
What about me? you haven't answered if my 25,000 was excessive or not. If it is then could you suggest a number?
Pat
Three Thousand Club
A vault can hold 1,000 people, maximum. You have 100 years to grow that inbred population that lived in the vault for (I might have messed this number up) 123 years by 24,000. So your missionaries would have to be very successful at converting people to Mormonism/just joining you without converting to your religious beliefs, which is sorta iffy because the White Legs and 80s tribe would surround you and constantly harrass you. Though the 3 GECKs you have would make people want to join you and keep your population not worried about food.
MrThe
Mystery Man
Oh ok so a more reasonable amount would be?
Pat
Three Thousand Club
Your water purification facilities and GECKs would allow a large population to form, but immigration would be limited since your neighbors are incredibly violent tribals.
General Deth Glitch
Two Thousand Club
While what I claimed looks like a boatload, its really not. especially since Michigan was claimed in the past 40 or so years and would be very unstable and little more just annexed, liable to rebellions and potential to flip them against me and to join an entirely different nation
But I do agree it would have been mentioned had it existed, but if we stick to those rules then making any nation that would be notable or interesting and able to actually survive in a world with NCR just wouldn't be possible.
*NCR sized nations
But I do agree it would have been mentioned had it existed, but if we stick to those rules then making any nation that would be notable or interesting and able to actually survive in a world with NCR just wouldn't be possible.
*NCR sized nations
Pat
Three Thousand Club
I'm guessing that at first your Mormons, right after exiting the Vault, would be inbred to some degree, either that or your population has roughly stayed the same as when their ancestors went into the Vault. So at first you have 500-1000 people, given the cry wolf effect from the constant vault drills. When they find other humans, they find out almost everyone they interact with is either impoverished or a violent tribal. What happens next would depend on what you did with the impoverished people. If you only allowed them to join you if they converted to your religion, many would do so half-heartedly but at some point they're going to fight you. So the number of immigrants increases over the next hundred years by small amounts. Meanwhile, since you're pretty well-off compared to most other people around your area, you birth rate would drop a little. So anywhere from 2,000ish (if you're only letting Mormons and converted wastelanders join you) to 6,000. Maybe bump that up abit if you think your faction would have a good birth rate and not that many infant mortalities.
MrThe
Mystery Man
He is right. After all my country is supposed to be razed to the ground by tribals. As for the size, if it was conquered then it most certainly could reach that size, after all the legion expanded really fast.
Pat
Three Thousand Club
This reminds me about the Great Seas RP. Ask Waffle about it maybe, you'll hear quite a tale.