Fairy Tail: A Fandom OOC

[Zareh]

Actually thinking about it, using Gilad as a reference, I was wrong. Most forms of magic WOULDN'T affect the roboboy. Even Salt's water thing wouldn't work, depending on how he did it. Let's say a mage does some like water magic and shoots a hydropump at the robot. Since the water isn't actual, real water, it's magic given form, then when the magic is negated that form vanishes. If he negates ALL magic then the moment that water makes contact it will cease to exist because the very water itself is magical. Since it ceases to exist there wouldn't be any force to be applied and thus nothing would happen.
The only way it'd work is if you used magic to manipulate actual, real water and send it at him. By the time the magic is negated the water is already moving and we all know what Mr. Newton has to say about that.

I don't think you understand, plus I don't think Mr. Newton's laws apply here.


I would prefer if you would call him by his name and not roboboy since it confuses me. There's a difference between negating and immunity. Timothy has no magic at all and is unable to generate any kind. I don't know who Gilad is but he doesn't negate all magic, his body is just immune to it. That's just how his body is designed to be, metal and skin. So water created magic wouldn't harm him and it wouldn't disappeared but the force would still affect him. It's psi pressure is also dependent whether or not it will push him. This is also why I said physical based magic is able to harm him like re-equip magic a.k.a Erza and strength boosting.

 

[Salt Lord]

There's a lot of different ways Gilad could ruin some magic immune enemy. Like I said in the post that was posted before you had the opportunity to fully reply to it, it's more for everyone else to think on how their characters might go about it. Being immune to magic is fairly easy to overcome depending on the magic you employ.
Anti-magic is only truly devastating when it's like Gilad's and has range to it. Because every strategy you could employ to bypass it would get shut down anyways. But when the magic immunity is simply relegated to a physical object it's fairly easy to overcome. Even straight forward magic types like Tanari or Emmerich could have a few options depending on how they handled things.

Makes sense.


Also, I reworked Ophelia's CS and made major changes to a lot of things, and I know it's not good to announce when almost everyone's asleep, but people should read it so that they don't get caught off guard when I start posting for Ophelia again

 

[Happy Red Mage]

There's a lot of different ways Gilad could ruin some magic immune enemy. Like I said in the post that was posted before you had the opportunity to fully reply to it, it's more for everyone else to think on how their characters might go about it. Being immune to magic is fairly easy to overcome depending on the magic you employ.
Anti-magic is only truly devastating when it's like Gilad's and has range to it. Because every strategy you could employ to bypass it would get shut down anyways. But when the magic immunity is simply relegated to a physical object it's fairly easy to overcome. Even straight forward magic types like Tanari or Emmerich could have a few options depending on how they handled things.

 

[Happy Red Mage]

I don't think you understand, plus I don't think Mr. Newton's laws apply here.
I would prefer if you would call him by his name and not roboboy since it confuses me. There's a difference between negating and immunity. Timothy has no magic at all and is unable to generate any kind. I don't know who Gilad is but he doesn't negate all magic, his body is just immune to it. That's just how his body is designed to be, metal and skin. So water created magic wouldn't harm him and it wouldn't disappeared but the force would still affect him. It's psi pressure is also dependent whether or not it will push him. This is also why I said physical based magic is able to harm him like re-equip magic a.k.a Erza and strength boosting.

Is he susceptible to being drowned in sand?

 

[Salt Lord]

[QUOTE="Happy Red Mage]Is he susceptible to being drowned in sand?

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He's a robot.

 

[Zareh]

[QUOTE="Happy Red Mage]Is he susceptible to being drowned in sand?

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Yeah with quick sand but he doesn't need to breathe so pretty much he'll be stuck there or struggle to get out.

 

[Happy Red Mage]

Yeah with quick sand but he doesn't need to breathe so pretty much he'll be stuck there or struggle to get out.

Are the insides of his body susceptible to magic?

 

[Colt556]

I don't think you understand, plus I don't think Mr. Newton's laws apply here.
I would prefer if you would call him by his name and not roboboy since it confuses me. There's a difference between negating and immunity. Timothy has no magic at all and is unable to generate any kind. I don't know who Gilad is but he doesn't negate all magic, his body is just immune to it. That's just how his body is designed to be, metal and skin. So water created magic wouldn't harm him and it wouldn't disappeared but the force would still affect him. It's psi pressure is also dependent whether or not it will push him. This is also why I said physical based magic is able to harm him like re-equip magic a.k.a Erza and strength boosting.

The problem with that is that it's contradictory. If he can't negate the magic then how is he immune to it? If I throw a fireball at him why is the fire, the heat, not damaging him? Why is the explosive force not damaging him? If I were to use telekinesis magic on him and levitate him into the air, if he isn't negating the magic then he would be affected by that. The only types of magic he could be 'immune' to without negating them would be mind-altering stuff, such as illusionary magic. Even intangible forms of magic would still affect him if he isn't negating it. If Valken tried to throw him into shadows, he'd be affected. If Mizuki tried to grab him with her shadow arms, he'd be affected. If Ophelia hit him with hydropump, he'd be affected. If Tanari punched him with a flaming explosive fist he'd be affected. Etc etc etc.


So if he isn't negating magic then he really isn't immune to magic, he's immune to mind-altering magic and that's only because he's a robot.

 

[Zareh]

The problem with that is that it's contradictory. If he can't negate the magic then how is he immune to it? If I throw a fireball at him why is the fire, the heat, not damaging him? Why is the explosive force not damaging him? If I were to use telekinesis magic on him and levitate him into the air, if he isn't negating the magic then he would be affected by that. The only types of magic he could be 'immune' to without negating them would be mind-altering stuff, such as illusionary magic. Even intangible forms of magic would still affect him if he isn't negating it. If Valken tried to throw him into shadows, he'd be affected. If Mizuki tried to grab him with her shadow arms, he'd be affected. If Ophelia hit him with hydropump, he'd be affected. If Tanari punched him with a flaming explosive fist he'd be affected. Etc etc etc.
So if he isn't negating magic then he really isn't immune to magic, he's immune to mind-altering magic and that's only because he's a robot.

I already explained that it's the material he was created with that gives him the immunity. That's why I said only physical aspects of magic would affect him. Force, Swords, etc.


Plus you don't need to negate something to be immune to it. That's why I said magic would be able to touch him but it wouldn't harm him in anyway especially if it's in an energy state of form. It's not contradictory in anyway, you just don't understand how it works.

 

[Salt Lord]

I already explained that it's the material he was created with that gives him the immunity. That's why I said only physical aspects of magic would affect him. Force, Swords, etc.
Plus you don't need to negate something to be immune to it. That's why I said magic would be able to touch him but it wouldn't harm him in anyway especially if it's in an energy state of form. It's not contradictory in anyway, you just don't understand how it works.

@Colt556


I can see where he's coming from with this.

 

[Zareh]

@Colt556[/URL]
I can see where he's coming from with this.

Thank you, it's really tiring to explain something over and over again.

 

[Salt Lord]

Thank you, it's really tiring to explain something over and over again.

I know the feeling friend. :v

 

[Happy Red Mage]

Thank you, it's really tiring to explain something over and over again.

So...insides?

 

[Colt556]

I already explained that it's the material he was created with that gives him the immunity. That's why I said only physical aspects of magic would affect him. Force, Swords, etc.
Plus you don't need to negate something to be immune to it. That's why I said magic would be able to touch him but it wouldn't harm him in anyway especially if it's in an energy state of form. It's not contradictory in anyway, you just don't understand how it works.

@Colt556[/URL]
I can see where he's coming from with this.

Well I can't. I can't see anything that'd give him any sort of immunity. He isn't negating the magic so the magic is still in play when it hits him. There's no mention of him dispersing magic, which would be a form of negation anyways. From everything he's said almost all forms of magic would harm him same as anything else. If I fired some arcane beam at him it'd still damage him same as it'd damage anything else because every way of negating the damage simply isn't being applied. He would HAVE to negate the magic in some way in order to negate the damage. To negate the damage without negating the attack itself would be like stopping a gunshot wound without doing anything to stop the bullet. It simply doesn't work that way.

 

[Salt Lord]

Well I can't. I can't see anything that'd give him any sort of immunity. He isn't negating the magic so the magic is still in play when it hits him. There's no mention of him dispersing magic, which would be a form of negation anyways. From everything he's said almost all forms of magic would harm him same as anything else. If I fired some arcane beam at him it'd still damage him same as it'd damage anything else because every way of negating the damage simply isn't being applied. He would HAVE to negate the magic in some way in order to negate the damage. To negate the damage without negating the attack itself would be like stopping a gunshot wound without doing anything to stop the bullet. It simply doesn't work that way.

Okay, and now I can see where you're coming from.


Ugh. I don't wanna take sides. D:

 

[Colt556]

[QUOTE="Salt Lord]Okay, and now I can see where you're coming from.
Ugh. I don't wanna take sides. D:

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There has to be SOMETHING that stops the magic. Either he outright negates it like gilad does, or his skin is made out of some magic absorbing material and acts like a bullet proof vest and disperses the magic so it doesn't cause any real damage. SOMETHING. You can't just be immune, something has to be causing that immunity. And to know what works and what doesn't on a player-level you need to know what's causing that immunity. If you just say "it doesn't stop physical" then it doesn't stop anything except mind-altering magics. Adrien's arcane sword? Would work just fine, it's physical. Tanari's fire? Would work just fine. Millie's Telekinesis? Would work fine. So for him to be protected against more than just illusionary magic and the like there needs to be some kind of explanation for why and how he's immune. Something that would explain how some magic works while others don't.

 

[Zareh]

[QUOTE="Happy Red Mage]So...insides?

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If you target the internal workings, it wouldn't work.

 

[Happy Red Mage]

If you target the internal workings, it wouldn't work.

No, just in general.

 

[Salt Lord]

There has to be SOMETHING that stops the magic. Either he outright negates it like gilad does, or his skin is made out of some magic absorbing material and acts like a bullet proof vest and disperses the magic so it doesn't cause any real damage. SOMETHING. You can't just be immune, something has to be causing that immunity. And to know what works and what doesn't on a player-level you need to know what's causing that immunity. If you just say "it doesn't stop physical" then it doesn't stop anything except mind-altering magics. Adrien's arcane sword? Would work just fine, it's physical. Tanari's fire? Would work just fine. Millie's Telekinesis? Would work fine. So for him to be protected against more than just illusionary magic and the like there needs to be some kind of explanation for why and how he's immune. Something that would explain how some magic works while others don't.

Aaand this. @Zareh

 

[LeSoraAmari]

There has to be SOMETHING that stops the magic. Either he outright negates it like gilad does, or his skin is made out of some magic absorbing material and acts like a bullet proof vest and disperses the magic so it doesn't cause any real damage. SOMETHING. You can't just be immune, something has to be causing that immunity. And to know what works and what doesn't on a player-level you need to know what's causing that immunity. If you just say "it doesn't stop physical" then it doesn't stop anything except mind-altering magics. Adrien's arcane sword? Would work just fine, it's physical. Tanari's fire? Would work just fine. Millie's Telekinesis? Would work fine. So for him to be protected against more than just illusionary magic and the like there needs to be some kind of explanation for why and how he's immune. Something that would explain how some magic works while others don't.

Maya is the one with the telekinetic magic, unless Millie has it as well? :3


But yes, I agree.

 

[Zareh]

[QUOTE="Happy Red Mage]No, just in general.

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Then yes, it is possible to damage within.

 

[Abdel featherfall]

From my understanding things like concussive force from explosions would be ineffective, heat would likely roll off due to his bodies durability. That said he wouldn't be immune to kinetic energy such as being hit by a car.. A fist.. A magically propelled steel beam etc etc. but that's just what I'm getting from all this.

 

[Colt556]

Maya is the one with the telekinetic magic, unless Millie has it as well? :3
But yes, I agree.

You all look the same to me.

 

[LeSoraAmari]

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[Happy Red Mage]

Then yes, it is possible to damage within.

So he can't drink potions?