Arynne
Salmon of Doubt
Does Flicker need to make a Charisma roll or something to move her scene along?
[Emperors of the Fading Suns] [Emperors of the Fading Suns] OOC Thread
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JayTee
Eight Thousand Club
Middlemarches are technically apart of Creation, so Outside Worlds Within should be able to turn an area in to a patch of the Wyld for me to Shape.
cyl
Creepy smile
Aren't Bordermarches already a part of the Wyld ?
I always assumed that as soon as you had to roll for Wyld Exposure, then you weren't in Creation anymore.
I always assumed that as soon as you had to roll for Wyld Exposure, then you weren't in Creation anymore.
JayTee
Eight Thousand Club
I always figured that it was a half and half deal, that they were both at the same time.
Because Exalted is weird like that.
Because Exalted is weird like that.
xarvh
Malevolent Entertainer
Therefore, can OWW create a shadowland area?
JayTee
Eight Thousand Club
I thought the prereq for a Shadowland was that a whole bunch of people had to die in that area?
xarvh
Malevolent Entertainer
But if Shadowlands are Creation then they are a proper target for OWW.
They most certainly qualify for "half and half".
I don't think that creating areas with any Wyld effect is within the purview of the spell.
They most certainly qualify for "half and half".
I don't think that creating areas with any Wyld effect is within the purview of the spell.
JayTee
Eight Thousand Club
I would have assumed that the necromantic taint of a shadowland would make it ill suited for a sorcery spell, but I don't see an issue with Outside Worlds Within making a room full of Wyld or Shadowland.
cyl
Creepy smile
This brings out another question about the "magical effects" of that spell: if the spell recreates places from Creation (either from memory or from a token of the desired location), does it also replicates can you recreate environmental effects like lava, supernatural storms, or demesnes properties ?
IE, if the magical construct replicates all the condition of the place in Creation, then it should be possible to recreate the environment of a 5dot demesne.
That doesn't settle the question about shadowlands and wyld tainted lands, but it's still something.
IE, if the magical construct replicates all the condition of the place in Creation, then it should be possible to recreate the environment of a 5dot demesne.
That doesn't settle the question about shadowlands and wyld tainted lands, but it's still something.
xarvh
Malevolent Entertainer
It creates a new area using the desired location as template, but does not make a copy.
cyl
Creepy smile
I'd argue that:
- the description of the spell mentions "perfect duplicate of any environment in Creation"
- if you use a token from that particular spot then the spell matches the actual weather condition of that spot.
I've dug up in my old Bot3C and it says that the environment will replicate the environment remembered or recreated from a token for a whole month.
So, if you use a token and it rains that day on the spot you're trying to replicate, then you'll have a rainy room for a whole month.
It's your prerogative to say "no" to wyld and shadowlands, and it's perfectly understandable (IIRC Sorcery and the Wyld don't mix well together), but I'm interested in the practicle applications of that spell... because aside from creating a secret garden where the sorcerer can go to relax and be in an environment he feels nostalgic about, I don't know what to make of it...
- the description of the spell mentions "perfect duplicate of any environment in Creation"
- if you use a token from that particular spot then the spell matches the actual weather condition of that spot.
I've dug up in my old Bot3C and it says that the environment will replicate the environment remembered or recreated from a token for a whole month.
So, if you use a token and it rains that day on the spot you're trying to replicate, then you'll have a rainy room for a whole month.
It's your prerogative to say "no" to wyld and shadowlands, and it's perfectly understandable (IIRC Sorcery and the Wyld don't mix well together), but I'm interested in the practicle applications of that spell... because aside from creating a secret garden where the sorcerer can go to relax and be in an environment he feels nostalgic about, I don't know what to make of it...
xarvh
Malevolent Entertainer
That could be surprisingly useful for intelligence.
Hey, just duplicate wherever the Widow hid the notes and voila, you get a copy of the notes.
Hey, just duplicate wherever the Widow hid the notes and voila, you get a copy of the notes.
cyl
Creepy smile
Hmmm... I don't think it recreates animals, people objects and structures, it seems to duplicate only the natural environment, the soil, the flaura, the weather etc etc.
I think the fauna was left out of the description for that same reason.
And now I think about it... I can see a practical application which is exactly what we needed to solve the food production problem in Cross !
Sunny and fertile farmland throughout the year...
The only thing now will be to convince Fangs to consent to building a few greenhouses for 25m per room per month...
I think the fauna was left out of the description for that same reason.
And now I think about it... I can see a practical application which is exactly what we needed to solve the food production problem in Cross !
Sunny and fertile farmland throughout the year...
The only thing now will be to convince Fangs to consent to building a few greenhouses for 25m per room per month...
CrazyIvan
Two Thousand Club
This is rather tricky to do without having seen the location before however.xarvh said:
CrazyIvan
Two Thousand Club
Or she could learn Food From the Celestial Table.cyl said:
Or, the far more likely, suggesting that if you live in a place whose farmland cannot support your population, it might be time to move.
Though she could maintain the Greenhouses. She just needs Essence recharging. Malek should get on promoting her cult.
cyl
Creepy smile
The terrestrial version is like a "hunger pill" for five people.CrazyIvan said:
Obviously a celestial spell would be much more nourishing and could feed much more people, but it's not a long term fix.
That or to use Craft Genesis to make minor alterations on fruits & vegetables to accommodate them to jungle climate and grow faster.
The Legion and the Crown are still out there so it might be a bit dangerous to move people around, and even then it takes quite some time to do so.
Wouldn't you just simply need to spread the maintenance of the Greenhouses over several days and weeks ?
I mean Cult kind of sucks compared with getting a massage or sleeping in a Manse... not that Darth Malek would ever suggest creating a manse - spa resort just to keep Fangs happy in exchange for her motes... but others could.
And now I have silly images from Spirited Away in my mind where Fangs runs after Chihiro to eat her kidneys...
Arynne
Salmon of Doubt
I could make pigs with the Rotundity mutation...
cyl
Creepy smile
Poor piggies :cry:
Arynne
Salmon of Doubt
Don't say that till you've tried my pork chops. 
cyl
Creepy smile
Hmmm can someone really appreciate the meal when he hates the cook ? I wonder... > 
Feantari
Water Sprite
Estimated next chunk of free time: Monday evening. Maybe Sunday eve. Free time dictated by launch schedule so... could change. Until then its sitting at the top of my todo list. Apologies for being terrible at free time at present.
cyl
Creepy smile
Best of luck matey
Feantari
Water Sprite
Falcon 9 v1.1 with Cassiope and friendsKacie said:
xarvh
Malevolent Entertainer
Feantari's ego just exploded with Kacie's question.
But it's right, I'm really envying her.
My point about OWW is: can you use it to get information you don't have?
Anyway, my ruling is that it cannot replicate geomancies: wyld, shadowlands or demesnes can be replicated in their basic aspect but not in their special effect.
There are still a lot of creative uses for the spell.
But it's right, I'm really envying her.
My point about OWW is: can you use it to get information you don't have?
Anyway, my ruling is that it cannot replicate geomancies: wyld, shadowlands or demesnes can be replicated in their basic aspect but not in their special effect.
There are still a lot of creative uses for the spell.
