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[spacepanda]

Anyone else get the impression that Cailin was more aware of things then he was given credit?

It depends on what you're talking about exactly, but yes, he was very aware of what he was doing in some aspects.

 

[The Silent Z]

It depends on what you're talking about exactly, but yes, he was very aware of what he was doing in some aspects.

I mean in specific Ostagar. The more I replay Origins and Ostagar specifically, the more I’m re-examining some of his decisions and choice of course. Obviously it’s stated by others later on that for all his bravado Cailin knew there was no victory at Ostagar. But part me of wonders if he was sensing something off about Loghain and perhaps his call for the new recruit and Alistair light the beacon played a part. Also could just be a way of giving his half brother a better chance at living. Also could have given another chance of a Theirin king in doing so. Or perhaps this all just wild speculation whilst playing the game.

I certainly don’t think he was as childish and incapable as some make him out to be. But definitely more to his character then he’s been given story wise.

 

[spacepanda]

I mean in specific Ostagar. The more I replay Origins and Ostagar specifically, the more I’m re-examining some of his decisions and choice of course. Obviously it’s stated by others later on that for all his bravado Cailin knew there was no victory at Ostagar. But part me of wonders if he was sensing something off about Loghain and perhaps his call for the new recruit and Alistair light the beacon played a part. Also could just be a way of giving his half brother a better chance at living. Also could have given another chance of a Theirin king in doing so. Or perhaps this all just wild speculation whilst playing the game.

I certainly don’t think he was as childish and incapable as some make him out to be. But definitely more to his character then he’s been given story wise.

It's cannon that he was aware of his relation to Alistair, and I'm sure that's why he made sure he was safe. I don't think he knew the outcome of the battle would be his death, however, but he was smart enough to put Alistair in safety. He might have had suspicions of Loghain knowing his plan to divorce his daughter, but maybe not. I think he really did want the glory.

 

[Karcen]

I'll post tomorrow

 

[The Silent Z]

It's cannon that he was aware of his relation to Alistair, and I'm sure that's why he made sure he was safe. I don't think he knew the outcome of the battle would be his death, however, but he was smart enough to put Alistair in safety. He might have had suspicions of Loghain knowing his plan to divorce his daughter, but maybe not. I think he really did want the glory.

Yeah I recall that part and made me wonder further. I’m sure he did want the glory that was a pretty good motivation for him and lent to his over confidence I’m sure. True. The divorce would have played nicely into Loghains motives and Cailins mindset. Outside of plot-save can’t figure out why send two wardens to light a “non-dangerous task” of a beacon though. Loghain did claim he had men stationed there and if selecting the “if it’s not dangerous I can do it myself” option Cailin still remains firm about both going. Alistair makes sense. The warden I suppose being new might make sense though it was a battle. Idk. Since we saw little of Cailin and only hear things about his glory seeking, child playing at war and such, the mind wanders to curiosity about what more was there behind that and his story if anything.

 

[spacepanda]

Yeah I recall that part and made me wonder further. I’m sure he did want the glory that was a pretty good motivation for him and lent to his over confidence I’m sure. True. The divorce would have played nicely into Loghains motives and Cailins mindset. Outside of plot-save can’t figure out why send two wardens to light a “non-dangerous task” of a beacon though. Loghain did claim he had men stationed there and if selecting the “if it’s not dangerous I can do it myself” option Cailin still remains firm about both going. Alistair makes sense. The warden I suppose being new might make sense though it was a battle. Idk. Since we saw little of Cailin and only hear things about his glory seeking, child playing at war and such, the mind wanders to curiosity about what more was there behind that and his story if anything.

I mean we *know* Loghain's motives. He was well aware that Cailan was going to leave his daughter, and wanted to leave her for the Empress of Orlais (and he thought FUCK THAT!) lol But yea, sending two people was strategic on Cailan's part. It assured that at least two wardens would survive, AND it gave Ferelden a possible King if all went to shit. Cailan was well known to be foolish, but he for sure wasn't an idiot. I remember reading that he got along better with his army then the nobles (who Anora handled for him for the most part.) Celene was ready to send Orlais' army and their wardens to help with the darkspawn, but I think Cailan knew that the darkspawn weren't going to wait for reinforcements. He probably thought by charging ahead of time he could stall them and weaken their forces enough for help to arrive- unfortunately, their numbers were just far too great. We don't know what would have happened had the battle not taken place in Ostagar. It's possible that the Darkspawn would have caused even more damage than they did.

 

[The Silent Z]

I mean we *know* Loghain's motives. He was well aware that Cailan was going to leave his daughter, and wanted to leave her for the Empress of Orlais (and he thought FUCK THAT!) lol But yea, sending two people was strategic on Cailan's part. It assured that at least two wardens would survive, AND it gave Ferelden a possible King if all went to shit. Cailan was well known to be foolish, but he for sure wasn't an idiot. I remember reading that he got along better with his army then the nobles (who Anora handled for him for the most part.) Celene was ready to send Orlais' army and their wardens to help with the darkspawn, but I think Cailan knew that the darkspawn weren't going to wait for reinforcements. He probably thought by charging ahead of time he could stall them and weaken their forces enough for help to arrive- unfortunately, their numbers were just far too great. We don't know what would have happened had the battle not taken place in Ostagar. It's possible that the Darkspawn would have caused even more damage than they did.

Yeah true we did. The fall of Loghain was rather fitting and full heel turn committed, all things considered and knowing Cailin planned on leaving the queen for his daughter. Instead of Anora getting divorced and left for the empress of Orlais, she gets locked up on Howe’s estate with the potential of being killed, while Loghain poisons Eamon and deals with kidnapping (or perhaps that was Howe alone?), assassins and working with tevinter slavers and blood mages of all things amongst other details. The great fereldan hero that’s still defended by some then turned slaver and ultimate fereldan traitor. Lol

But yeah rather strategic on Cailins part. It did ensure least two wardens and one potential king should it turn sideways. Out of the three Theirin kings we know best and hear most about, Cailin is one that should have a book to read. Now that would be quite the political intrigue and certain adventure to be had for sure. Agreed, foolish but no idiot, considering his age and what’s there he could have matured into a great king. Imo. Though not sure about Celene over Anora though but that’s my own personal choice.

Good point. Explains why he’d not stand his ground more with Loghain when it came for waiting for reinforcements from Orlais and his uncle. But yeah probably a good deal more damage wise if not held there at Ostagar. It’s rather defensible and strategically placed.

 

[spacepanda]

Yeah true we did. The fall of Loghain was rather fitting and full heel turn committed, all things considered and knowing Cailin planned on leaving the queen for his daughter. Instead of Anora getting divorced and left for the empress of Orlais, she gets locked up on Howe’s estate with the potential of being killed, while Loghain poisons Eamon and deals with kidnapping (or perhaps that was Howe alone?), assassins and working with tevinter slavers and blood mages of all things amongst other details. The great fereldan hero that’s still defended by some then turned slaver and ultimate fereldan traitor. Lol

But yeah rather strategic on Cailins part. It did ensure least two wardens and one potential king should it turn sideways. Out of the three Theirin kings we know best and hear most about, Cailin is one that should have a book to read. Now that would be quite the political intrigue and certain adventure to be had for sure. Agreed, foolish but no idiot, considering his age and what’s there he could have matured into a great king. Imo. Though not sure about Celene over Anora though but that’s my own personal choice.

Good point. Explains why he’d not stand his ground more with Loghain when it came for waiting for reinforcements from Orlais and his uncle. But yeah probably a good deal more damage wise if not held there at Ostagar. It’s rather defensible and strategically placed.

I'd love to read a book featuring the earlier years of Cailan. I loved his father (whom Alistair totally took after), and I'm sure he got into all sorts of trouble lol. Celene would be a horrible choice, given what we know about her. No doubt she would have had him right where she wanted him.

 

[The Silent Z]

I'd love to read a book featuring the earlier years of Cailan. I loved his father (whom Alistair totally took after), and I'm sure he got into all sorts of trouble lol. Celene would be a horrible choice, given what we know about her. No doubt she would have had him right where she wanted him.

It would have been a great read, I think. Cailan getting into all sorts of trouble and wanting stories from dwarves and elves all the while navigating foreign relations and politics. Lol.

I still haven’t read all the books yet, the one with Celene is one of those I still need to purchase and read. (And man there have been a lot more books then I recalled) So can only recall bits about her and the winters palace mission in inquisition. But I wouldn’t trust that woman with Fereldan especially considering what she’d do or might if pressed too far by her own people and atleast Anora seemed to truly love Cailan. Maric had a interesting story and character indeed. Definitely can see the traits of Maric in Alistair.

 

[The Silent Z]

Well folks spacepanda Karcen RikuXIII checking in before too much time passes and seeing about posts for those who haven’t gone yet. Am planning to post my next one within the next few days unless reasons comes to delay it a bit.

FYI- A bump has been done in the interest check thread to try and boost numbers a bit. Am not sure what will come of it, but it’s been clear for awhile that Rusty is not going to par take of the rp and a numbers boost would be beneficial.

 

[Karcen]

I am still here sadly dont know anyone that would join

 

[The Silent Z]

I am still here sadly dont know anyone that would join

Ok cool. And that’s alright. Thanks though. I can think of a few names but not sure who’s still around the forum these days, it’s been a year or more since speaking with any of them i believe.

 

[RikuXIII]

The Silent Z Sorry for the delay. Work was a bit more draining then expected. I’ll have something up hopefully tonight.

 

[The Silent Z]

The Silent Z Sorry for the delay. Work was a bit more draining then expected. I’ll have something up hopefully tonight.

Understandable and cool, good to know we haven’t lost another player so early in.

redroseknight
I’ve read your CS and wanted to double check on a few things- Would your character be near or around the coastlands, namely highever and around there? Since your bio states Gwynnifer was sent after a mage that slipped from the circle.

 

[redroseknight]

Yes, I was going to have her be on the trail of an escaped mage. I figured that would be a good reason to have her cross paths with the rest of the group rather than being at the circle with the other Templars.

 

[The Silent Z]

Yes, I was going to have her be on the trail of an escaped mage. I figured that would be a good reason to have her cross paths with the rest of the group rather than being at the circle with the other Templars.

Ok cool then we are of similar thinking. Actually that could time perfectly with where the group will be heading soon and where we are in the rp. That also answers my next question. Out of curiosity is she related to Arl Wulf by chance?

 

[redroseknight]

Haha, yes, she is. Not a child of his, but she was afforded a comfortable life since he is her uncle. She dropped her surname when she joined the Templar ranks to make it harder to piece together that she and Iris are siblings. I just included it in her bio so that other noble children could choose to recognize her name if they wished.

 

[The Silent Z]

Haha, yes, she is. Not a child of his, but she was afforded a comfortable life since he is her uncle. She dropped her surname when she joined the Templar ranks to make it harder to piece together that she and Iris are siblings. I just included it in her bio so that other noble children could choose to recognize her name if they wished.

Haha nice. I assumed she was related somehow but assumption can be misleading. If she mentions her last name in the rp that should be interesting to see.

 

[Karcen]

A templar *hides in malificar*

 

[redroseknight]

Haha! I'm sure that a blood mage and a templar will be the best of friends.

 

[Karcen]

Ye as h first they all have to find out the maid is a mage at all lol

 

[spacepanda]

The Silent Z the steps are coming toward the party yes?

 

[The Silent Z]

Towards the doors to the great hall where the party shall be. Yes. spacepanda

 

[The Silent Z]

Are you still interested s u s h i ?

 

[s u s h i]

Are you still interested s u s h i ?

yes, still working on the cs