Nation Building BeckonCall's Fantasy Nation-building RPG thread

[SpiralErrant]

Working on my post now. Hopefully should have time to revamp the tyren overview thing too. It's old and dusty by this point.

 

[KamiKahzy]

I have a few posts in mind as well, however I think they would be best prepared using the GDoc to get the other leader's opinions about certain matters. And because of that, I would like to request that @SpiralErrant, @Prince Vaethorion, and @Elendithas send me your GMail addresses in a PM so I can invite you all into the document.

 

[Beckoncall]

I encourage people to get into Google-docs, but some people may not adopt it... and we must be prepared for that. If some people don't implement it we'll see what we can get accomplished with it, post the progress in game, and the LUDDITES can jump in. I'm excited about new mediums, but I don't want (largely unfounded) feared learning curves to turn anyone off.


I'm definitely using the doc, but will cross post a lot of information. At present the most pressing issues in town are:


-Undead next door, and do we let them shop?


-What to do with loot/prisoners?


-With the rescue of the IOC, people are concerned about fishmen, though light defenses are in place. is it enough?


-When we run out of Sylvan Food in the supply chain, will colony diet suffer?


-Exiles are growing further apart every day, developing worker, convict (now mostly Tyren and Attolian day-labor), and countrymen subsets... these could or should be adopted by other factions.


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[SpiralErrant]

Is the Gdoc already up and running?

 

[KamiKahzy]

Yes, the doc is up and running. I just got back home so I was now able to add both @SpiralErrant and @Heyitsjiwon to the doc. I still need @Prince Vaethorion and @Elendithas to send me their GMails so I can add them to it.

 

[KamiKahzy]

@Beckoncall @Heyitsjiwon @SpiralErrant @Prince Vaethorion @Elendithas


Attention! Attention!


The Google Doc is now open and available to everyone that has given me their GMail addresses. I've already gone and input some of my own thoughts on current issues, and have presented a basic formatting for us to follow within the document. Be aware that everyone in this document has full permissions to edit anything they find within it, so be careful you don't accidentally delete something from another faction. But do feel free to edit in your own opinions or change formatting if you think it would make things more effective. However if you're unsure if your new change is better and don't want to make a permanent change to the doc, simply add a comment in the side. Hover your mouse over the right hand side of the page and you should see a little comment bubble pop up. Simply click it and a new comment box will appear on the line where your mouse was last positioned.


I look forward to seeing your opinions everyone!

 

[KamiKahzy]

Oh, and there's a chat function within the Doc as well. Just click the little speech bubble next to "Comments" button at the top right of the page.

 

[Beckoncall]

Already feel like Frankenstein with this -- I'll proceed slowly, see what utility we get.

 

[KamiKahzy]

Yeah, it's a little slap-dash. But this way we'll be able to lay out all our thoughts on different matters in a quick and efficient manner.

 

[Elendithas]

To be perfectly honest, guys, I have no idea what any of the info on my last gmail account was. I'll just make a new one and send it.

 

[KamiKahzy]

Sounds good to me. Make sure you PM it to me instead of posting it here.

 

[Prince Vaethorion]

My email is REDACTED.


Edit: Sorry about that, but as a mod I can't let anyone post their emails publicly on the forums. It's against the rules. -KamiKahzy

 

[KamiKahzy]

So, everyone is now officially in the gdoc and I've already seen some contributions from the Tyren and the Attolians. Looking forward to seeing thoughts from the Aymaran and the High Born

 

[KamiKahzy]

Also if you find that your faction doesn't particularly care one way or another for a particular issue please say as much in the document instead of leaving it blank. If you leave it blank without saying anything it could be assumed you're trying to gather your thoughts on the situation.

 

[Beckoncall]

I am back on the scene reading and hopefully proccing a bunch of stuff... if I am more technical and less descriptive to get a lot of stuff caught up to a universal "zero time", I am sure you'll forgive me.


Couldn't ask for better players, game on.

 

[KamiKahzy]

@Beckoncall @Prince Vaethorion @Elendithas @SpiralErrant @Heyitsjiwon


Beck, do you like the setup for the GDoc right now as it is? Or is it getting too hectic for your tastes? Also I think the other thing missing is that there's really no spot yet where we can put a consensus on what the colony wants to do for certain issues. Should I add something like that before we come to an agreement, or should it wait until after all the details have been hashed out?

 

[Beckoncall]

I've been grabbing all orders for process and will look at the google doc now... the one weakness the googledoc HAS is that it's not seamlessly integrated to the site... I wish there was a way to make a tab where everyone can edit, but I'll reserve judgement until I take a peek at it now.


I thought the google doc was supposed to help engineer consensus on issues -- I'll take a peek

 

[KamiKahzy]

Oh it is helping to generate consensus, I just haven't put in a section yet where we explicitly state what that consensus is just yet.

 

[Beckoncall]

I'm reading it and in certain places commenting or stating developments in bold.


I really like some of the ideas coming out in the doc..!


currently viewing the video on STV governance put forward by Attolians... following it so far but think I'll probably have to watch to the end for it to start looking attractive, if it does...


I remain behind the scenes and will move some serious earth today/tonight If I have my way.

 

[Beckoncall]

Overall, I think the doc helps a lot. If three factions agree with how a problem should be navigated, Like guilds so far have been handled I'll consider that (until formal government overrides this mechanic) such triad-consensus will actually see such an action carried out. As such, A caravan (formed of police and normal market workers) will be considered a declared action unless somebody stays my hand or lets me know if they have any particular specifications.


TLDR: Will continue to review google doc, but it seems like trade caravan into the ruins is going to happen.

 

[KamiKahzy]

I like the Triad-Consensus idea so far until a more formal government can be agreed upon for the colony. However I would ask that you give us a heads up of any actions you plan to follow through on that have reached such a consensus, like you did just now with the Caravan. It'll give us a chance to edit anything we think needs to be done about the action.

 

[Beckoncall]

It may be one of the later actions I process, but consider a careful caravan sent into the ruin something in the pipeline.


@Heyitsjiwon @Prince Vaethorion @SpiralErrant

 

[Leusis]

Alright guys, my schedule has been balanced well enough to rejoin. I PMed Beck and we'll be trying to get me back on board when things aren't so hectic hopefully. Glad to be back even though my sylvan elves have been off ramped, I'll just be making a new faction.

 

[Beckoncall]

...Maybe. Lets just see how the current ball of yarn shakes out before we make any proclamations -- and I hope indeed your schedule has indeed settled down. Time will tell on both of these things... It was a big complexity for you to leave so suddenly, I may not be ready to sort out your equally sudden arrival.


Stay tuned.

 

[KamiKahzy]

@Beckoncall @Leusis


If it helps I'd be happy to help Leusis flesh out a new faction if that's the direction you want to go. Two people working on lore and societal gimmicks aught to speed up the process significantly. I'll leave rules in your shadowy GM department though.