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[TheAncientCelt]

Yeah, the Ibbeneese better not cross the Narrow Sea. . .Without the Golden Company.

 

[Akio]

War is going to happen even if Ibben doesn't show up though.

He can try and prevent the situation from being worse

 

[Leusis]

Kind of interested to see how everybody views the strength of The Golden Company honestly. Cause they might only have 10,000 men but those men have also been fighting likely constantly since they joined, I'd say they could take an army quite a bit larger than them. Plus, they have elephants.

 

[Elendithas]

Yeah, the Ibbeneese better not cross the Narrow Sea. . .Without the Golden Company.

Don't worry, at the rate these negotiations are going Ibben will have already gone to war alongside the Golden Company before Vance is done talking out terms.

 

[Akio]

Kind of interested to see how everybody views the strength of The Golden Company honestly. Cause they might only have 10,000 men but those men have also been fighting likely constantly since they joined, I'd say they could take an army quite a bit larger than them. Plus, they have elephants.

You should not underestimate the golden company, their all Veterans. People fighting in the disputed lands all the time should not be underestimated

 

[Akio]

It would not be extreme to say they could be a 20000 man army from the reach depending on thier commander. Since they have the most soldiers but the least trained. But 20000 from dorne which is their entire army us very different from 20000 from the reach. Depends on quality of soldier and quality of commanders

 

[WanderingJester]

It would not be extreme to say they could be a 20000 man army from the reach. Since they have the most soldiers but the least trained

That'll really depend on what part of Reach you're talking about honestly. Knight from the Shield Islands won't be the same as the Knight from the Arbor or the Knight from Highgarden.

 

[TheAncientCelt]

They did basically conquer the Dornish forestland, islands, parts of the Stepstones, after a storm separated them. They are fast, skilled, experienced, and brutal. At parity, and maybe this is my bias, but they would beat any Westerosi army in neutral conditions. Maybe even with a slight disadvantage.

Don't worry, at the rate these negotiations are going Ibben will have already gone to war alongside the Golden Company before Vance is done talking out terms.

I mean, what would you do if you heard this ominous shadow king sudden wants to fund you with thousands of soldiers? Shit man, he shoulda pulled a Barristen/Artisan.

 

[TheAncientCelt]

20,000 is really not likely, unless they are being commanded by Mace Tyrell.

 

[Akio]

20,000 is really not likely, unless they are being commanded by Mace Tyrell.

Not really, most of the drafties from the bigger nations are craftsman and and farmers, not soldiers. Each of the golden company able to take two such men us not impossible

 

[Leusis]

Honestly just having elephants would do a lot for them in Westeros. Very few people have likely seen an elephant and I admitted earlier that if Roland Wilds (a veteran knight of many battles) saw an elephant in the enemies army he'd look like this if Tiber asked him to charge it.

 

[Elendithas]

They did basically conquer the Dornish forestland, islands, parts of the Stepstones, after a storm separated them. They are fast, skilled, experienced, and brutal. At parity, and maybe this is my bias, but they would beat any Westerosi army in neutral conditions. Maybe even with a slight disadvantage.
I mean, what would you do if you heard this ominous shadow king sudden wants to fund you with thousands of soldiers? Shit man, he shoulda pulled a Barristen/Artisan.

Honestly, as far as Deanna knows, she's already been given to him by Kuvira. He would be within his rights to just grab her up and bring her to Ibben forcefully.

 

[Leusis]

@Akio


If the Reach fought them with 20,000 The Golden Company would lose because its a lot harder to dodge or block 2 weapons at the same time than it is one. Not to mention the Reach has a copious amount of mounted knights.

 

[WanderingJester]

Honestly, as far as Deanna knows, she's already been given to him by Kuvira. He would be within his rights to just grab her up and bring her to Ibben forcefully.

heh, not a particularly advisable course of action, but you know, if you have the Ib guys go that route...

 

[TheAncientCelt]

Not really, most of the drafties from the bigger nations are craftsman and and farmers, not soldiers. Each of the golden company able to take two such men us not impossible

That's the core of all Westerosi feudal armies, though. You have some knights scattered around, but a majority of everyone in them are levies and serfs that owe their strength to their liege lord, who in turn owes it to theirs, and so on and so forth. The problem is that you still train a majority of them, and if you have 20,000 soldiers, the enemy has to kill two people per man, or kill enough to force them to route BEFORE they lose too many in the battle. Incredibly difficult. Unless it's a very inexperienced commander, or the other person is a strategic jesus, you'd be in a pickle.


Especially if it's open fielded combat, where you can out flank your opponent easier, though I suppose a Westerosi army might not go for such ways as often, wanting to keep reserves and a tight core.

Honestly just having elephants would do a lot for them in Westeros. Very few people have likely seen an elephant and I admitted earlier that if Roland Wilds (a veteran knight of many battles) saw an elephant in the enemies army he'd look like this if Tiber asked him to charge it.

Yeaah, elephants to a culture that doesn't fight them is a big culture shock. It never goes well in the first battle, but they had only 40 or 80 of them, right? Not a super big problem.

Honestly, as far as Deanna knows, she's already been given to him by Kuvira. He would be within his rights to just grab her up and bring her to Ibben forcefully.

Uh, that probably is a bad idea.

 

[Akio]

Honestly, as far as Deanna knows, she's already been given to him by Kuvira. He would be within his rights to just grab her up and bring her to Ibben forcefully.

Except i dont think he has any confirmation yet, just that the offer been made

Honestly just having elephants would do a lot for them in Westeros. Very few people have likely seen an elephant and I admitted earlier that if Roland Wilds (a veteran knight of many battles) saw an elephant in the enemies army he'd look like this if Tiber asked him to charge it.

Cayden would try to wheel around and hit them with archers. No way would he let his melee line anywhere near them. But hes also fought them before.

@Akio
If the Reach fought them with 20,000 The Golden Company would lose because its a lot harder to dodge or block 2 weapons at the same time than it is one. Not to mention the Reach has a copious amount of mounted knights.

Thats true. They probably have the best Calvary or at least the most calvary

 

[Elendithas]

Never claimed it was a good idea, just that it would be possible to do with little, if any, backlash from Westeros. Sure, the handful of people following her would be angry, but if she was actually captured, there would be a good chance all of those people died trying to protect her.

 

[Leusis]

I just realized with the 400 knights Roland has on Fair Isle right now he could train all 2,000 of his levies by having each knight train 5 men each. That training would be on such a personal level that it'd likely go suuuuuper fast.

 

[WanderingJester]

That's the core of all Westerosi feudal armies, though. You have some knights scattered around, but a majority of everyone in them are levies and serfs that owe their strength to their liege lord, who in turn owes it to theirs, and so on and so forth. The problem is that you still train a majority of them, and if you have 20,000 soldiers, the enemy has to kill two people per man, or kill enough to force them to route BEFORE they lose too many in the battle. Incredibly difficult. Unless it's a very inexperienced commander, or the other person is a strategic jesus, you'd be in a pickle.
Especially if it's open fielded combat, where you can out flank your opponent easier, though I suppose a Westerosi army might not go for such ways as often, wanting to keep reserves and a tight core.


Yeaah, elephants to a culture that doesn't fight them is a big culture shock. It never goes well in the first battle, but they had only 40 or 80 of them, right? Not a super big problem.


Uh, that probably is a bad idea.

"Strategic Jesus"


For some reason reminded me of this:

Also, you know: Ser Goodman and House Twenty. Just saying.

 

[Leusis]

Just wondering but will the nations of Essos eventually be added to that list of armies in the overview?

 

[TheAncientCelt]

I just realized with the 400 knights Roland has on Fair Isle right now he could train all 2,000 of his levies by having each knight train 5 men each. That training would be on such a personal level that it'd likely go suuuuuper fast.

So Fair Isle now will not produce ANYTHING but Warriors. Sparta tried this, they needed a huge slave population to help it work out. . You do have the Riverlands not a stones throw away. They make great salt wivesslaves.

 

[Akio]

So Fair Isle now will not produce ANYTHING but Warriors. Sparta tried this, they needed a huge slave population to help it work out. . You do have the Riverlands not a stones throw away. They make great salt wivesslaves.

Lovely

 

[Leusis]

TAC stop tempting me into actually turning Fair Isle into the Sparta of Westeros.

 

[Akio]

I swear if thats a dragon @Elendithas

 

[Elendithas]

Damn son, those are some high expectations.