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Thank you so much Plague of Hats! That explanation really brings it all into focus for me and explains fully what I originally saw as conflicting ideas from different writers.

Thanks I had always heard that the Celestial Incarnae were far more powerful then the Primordials and that was way their Exalted were so much more powerful then the Primordial exalted (This was before the infernal books of course) After reading the Return of the Scarlet Empress and seeing one...

I have a question regarding the power level of the Gods vs the Primordials. Were the gods actually stronger then the primordial or just less vulnerable since they lacked weaker "souls"? It seems that the with the exception of the Unconquered Sun and Luna, the Incarnae are only slightly stronger...

thank you broken wing crane! I love the war forms in there. My only problem with the book is it makes normal solors look so plain :|

I think (maybe) your best point is that you can be denied you vessel or mount in some circumstances. I had that happen in a different game that shall remain nameless where my fun mounted character was stuck in a dungeon or a castle or just about everywhere they became much less fun. With that in...

Well that's a little higher on the food chain then I was thinking. It also lacks the fair folk flavor at that point and would be hard to get a GM to give you the go ahead to actually play. I was thinking more like a chosen of chaos something on the power level of a celestial exalted.

Isn't this basically how hell striders work?

Maybe we'll get a new level of Fair Folk above Nobles and unshaped but much more rare.

This actually answers a question I had on where the Fair Folk power level ranked in the scheme of things. Reading about them they seemed much more impressive but I really don't have a good working knowledge of the game.

Thanks I found that its in the Compass of Celestial Directions Vol. 4 The Underworld on page 17. It say that as the as the Wyld dissolved creations outer provinces it dissolved the underworlds outer provinces too but if you keep reading it sounds like it could have just dissolved them into the...

I know that in creation the Wyld is what's beyond creation but what is beyond the "elemental poles" in the underworld? I couldn't find anything about it past that it seems to mirror creation with the south having black flames and so on. So I'm guessing its either the labyrinth (since its the...

Thanks for even though that was sort of depressing. Yeah I just starting reading the new abyssal book today and its good but not as good as the lunar book was.

I know that sounds like a huge question but its not or I don't mean it to be anyway. My question is did they change Abyssals and Sidereals as much as they did with Lunars? Like Lunar shape change is huge now and has a whole new subsystem with knacks, anything like that for Abyssals for...

Thanks you! I see why I couldn't find it now my scroll of errata didn't go anywhere near that page count.

As a side question where do you find that power chart in the Scroll of Errata? I can't find it or anything like it.

I have a very newbie question. Normal WarStriders have no health levels right? I've read the books about them and I see that SiegeStrider have health levels and HellStriders have them but I see no mention of them for normal noble, royal and the like. I took that to mean they act like giant...

The idea I had was that there wasn't really any exalted "evolution" charms and by evolution I mean like you see in a tons of anime, where the bad guy or even the good guy transforms to a more powerful (and often inhuman) form. They do show in a few of the comics/art pages different characters...

thanks for the insights

Hi I'm new and came across this forum from a Google search. I wanted to get some opinions and feed back on some Infernal shape change charms like the ink monkeys "By Rage Recast and Devil tyrant Avatar Shintai" I just recently got into exalted and noticed that there didn't seem to be many...