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Dragongal said:
Spazz, don't insult us, everyone here is more mature than the CCC brats. We're just having a discussion.
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I meant by back-and-forth-ing.

Elvengarda said:
Trust me Spazzy, you aren't in a mindset of surviving.
You would know it isn't anything like a hunger games.
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And I meant only to use it as a hyperboleeee....
 
We aren't mad or trying to bash you out of spite, we are worried mostly. I've been there too, and I know nearly certainly that I've been far far deeper down the rabbit hole too. At least, I hope sincerely for you that you didn't fall as deep as me... Anyhow, we're trying to help you see that it has no use trying to hold on to things that won't help you. School tries to teach you a lot of things that are important, even if you don't know it now. My personal example: I've had latin for four years, I thought it was the most useless shit ever... until I realised about a year after that every other language I tried became so much easier because my mind recognised patterns. That's what school is trying to teach you, history has patterns, languages have patterns, even math will teach you logical thinking patterns. The problem with it appearing so damn boring, is because to show those patterns clearly they have to take up examples that are far from reality, and don't seem to have a practical use. But once you work through that you will be so glad you know they are there... because they are everywhere.
 
Just thinking of the CCC gives me an awful wrenching feeling in my stomach. I'm extra super glad it got shut down.


It should have been done sooner; that thing was nothing but trouble. Especially for me >.<
 
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On another note, I don't think I ever confirmed seeing intelligent people. Only signs of intelligent life. And intelligent life can be a lot of things mind you, also, it could be that they're long dead and gone, as Saami only saw ruins.
 
Alright quick rule of thumb update: Defence goes on the ground first to make sure everything is safe, and only then the scientists go on the second round.
 
Elvengarda said:
We aren't mad or trying to bash you out of spite, we are worried mostly. I've been there too, and I know nearly certainly that I've been far far deeper down the rabbit hole too. At least, I hope sincerely for you that you didn't fall as deep as me... Anyhow, we're trying to help you see that it has no use trying to hold on to things that won't help you. School tries to teach you a lot of things that are important, even if you don't know it now. My personal example: I've had latin for four years, I thought it was the most useless shit ever... until I realised about a year after that every other language I tried became so much easier because my mind recognised patterns. That's what school is trying to teach you, history has patterns, languages have patterns, even math will teach you logical thinking patterns. The problem with it appearing so damn boring, is because to show those patterns clearly they have to take up examples that are far from reality, and don't seem to have a practical use. But once you work through that you will be so glad you know they are there... because they are everywhere.
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I know what you mean, and I totally get that, but I just don't want to lose interest in extra stuff, and I guess the only way to keep from doing so is to convince myself until the last possible minute that I could make it work. -shrugs- I'm not entirely sure what the thought process there is, but that's my best guess.
 
Spazzycat101 said:
-shrugs again- Yep.
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If I recall correctly I think I'm the oldest member of this group, and since I haven't been able to give my bit yet, let me share some advice from someone who has been living in the real world for four years now. No matter if you go to college to get a good job or take the route like I have and work towards making your dream job come true, you are going to probably have to work in a "day job" for a while until you can make a living for yourself at what you want to do. I took some time off out of high school and went to work because I didn't know what I wanted to do exactly. Now that I've decided to pursue writing whole heartedly I'm putting every bit of effort into learning my craft and honing my skills, but I still have to work a "day job" until my writing starts to pay for itself. Of course that also means that I'm not putting all of my eggs in one basket. I'm working on my first novel this year, but I'm also working on short stories and putting together another novel for after I've finished the first draft of the novel I'm working on right now, all the while keeping up with my friends(including all of you), my family, other hobbies, my sleep schedule, and pulling full time hours at a "day job". And I'll tell you right now, no amount of schooling will prepare you for this. But if it matters enough to you then you will make time for it.


I'm not trying to be an ass about this at all. If you have something you want to go to college/uni for go for it. If you have things you enjoy doing that you want to keep up with, though, you have to make time for them in between everything that has to be taken care of. It can be a lot of work some days, but in the end if everything works out the hard work will have been worth it.


Now, practical advice, if you are planning on doing something creative, make sure there is a market for it.(Dragon hit on this already. Applause to Dragon)
 
I was mostly thinking local market. If you are an artist it pays to be in an area with art museums or personal collectors that look for your style of art. Being a writer is kind of different because of having an agent to help sell your work and deal with publishers. Are there agents for artists?
 
Yes, my good friend has one, but they mostly find people who are art freaks to but your stuff or find galleries for you to sell them at. Basically just what you do yourself, but if you're lazy.
 
Luminescent said:
Yes, my good friend has one, but they mostly find people who are art freaks to but your stuff or find galleries for you to sell them at. Basically just what you do yourself, but if you're lazy.
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I figured they would be similar to a literary agent. I might be off, but I would think there is less paper work/contracts with selling art than there are with books.
 
OK, NOT GONNA LIE: It's friggin hard to find a good market to sell stuff at, mostly because I'm too late for application submissions and price ranges are crazy. It's just so much info to sift through, I usually lose focus and end up RPing.
 
BookWyrm said:
I figured they would be similar to a literary agent. I might be off, but I would think there is less paper work/contracts with selling art than there are with books.
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Each art piece has different qualifications, so different contracts. Metalwork is one category and painting is another, if you do both, they'd likely go to different galleries/people. Then there's wearable art which can result in lawsuits and copyright issues.
 
Yeah selling art is just like "hey u want this art? $20" "ya sure thx bro here" "thx bro"


or


"hey can i sell my art here?" "ya bro" "thx bro"
 
Dragongal said:
Each art piece has different qualifications, so different contracts. Metalwork is one category and painting is another, if you do both, they'd likely go to different galleries/people. Then there's wearable art which can result in lawsuits and copyright issues.
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Figures. Thats like what I've learned about the publishing industry, and also why when I finally have a revised manuscript I'm going to look for an agent. I speak very little legalese, so having one is going to be crucial.


No one ever tells aspiring writers or artists about the actual craft work or business end of it all. I feel like that should be required to be honest.
 
BookWyrm said:
Figures. Thats like what I've learned about the publishing industry, and also why when I finally have a revised manuscript I'm going to look for an agent. I speak very little legalese, so having one is going to be crucial.
No one ever tells aspiring writers or artists about the actual craft work or business end of it all. I feel like that should be required to be honest.
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I don't know if I could afford an agent, but I don't want to self-publish XP
 
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