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Well, yeah! I was trying to make that a key point of the character. He's highly skilled and able to fight, but crippled by the opportunity cost of using his equipment-- basically a literal tank of a character.For starters at this point the weapons (Outside of Swivel gun) would be unreliable. It'd be a miracle to even hit let alone do reliable damage. It would be likely they are really expensive, even assuming you were the one to take care of it the maintnance must be ridiculous. In a way yeah you can use it but from the version of Breech loaded guns you will have to point blank fire them to get a hit in.
Hmmm Tank isn't how I put it. The way guns were back in the old 1300's through 1500's it was better to use crossbows and bows and arrows. I believe they were also more effective at killing than the early breech loaded guns. What me and Baku are saying, is that really a person is more effective with a bow and arrow than these super primitive guns. Why use these guns what we already have technology that could easily do the job better. Besides the only race that could create firearms, are the dwarves since me and Baku agreed that Dwarves are the only people with cannons, and even then they probably would have only experimental stuff.Well, yeah! I was trying to make that a key point of the character. He's highly skilled and able to fight, but crippled by the opportunity cost of using his equipment-- basically a literal tank of a character.
I love how much that relies on perspective. From a human perspective, those ten or more years that Eskil is ahead is a significant difference. If you then go to elven perspective, like Ikasia´s, it barely even matters. And when you then go one step further, for example, even though we dont have those in this rp, a gods perspective, even with her 600 years Ikasia is basically a teenager.No, it’s to Faldtis. Sorry, there are too many young people for Eskil XD
I disagree that muskets and hand cannons would be "useless", even compared to crossbows and longbows. Like all widely-used weapons, they had a specific place on the battlefield that crossbows and longbows would struggle to fit in, acting as a more dedicated anti-light-infantry option and a tool for supporting units likely to get caught by cavalry. In addition, they're substantially more accurate than you give them credit for, with even the early 15th-century examples being accurate up to several dozen paces. Since the issue is that the setting's human civilizations are more dedicated to magic than to complex engineering, it wouldn't be a problem to make Alexandre a dwarf. Would this work for you?Hmmm Tank isn't how I put it. The way guns were back in the old 1300's through 1500's it was better to use crossbows and bows and arrows. I believe they were also more effective at killing than the early breech loaded guns. What me and Baku are saying, is that really a person is more effective with a bow and arrow than these super primitive guns. Why use these guns what we already have technology that could easily do the job better. Besides the only race that could create firearms, are the dwarves since me and Baku agreed that Dwarves are the only people with cannons, and even then they probably would have only experimental stuff.
The point is, is that firearms really don't have much of a place in this rp. Sure they existed in real life by this time, but this is a fantasy rp so the rules are different when you have magic and various races of creatures.
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Not sure if I should be poking my head into this, but I don't think having an arquebusier-esque character would be too far-fetched, particularly if said character was a dwarf and had lore that made sense. Sure, early firearms were pretty unreliable and not the most accurate compared to a crossbow or bow, but they were still frightening weapons to fight against. Even if the loud bang and smoke doesn't do much physically, if someone has never seen anything like that before, they would naturally be shaken. But that's if we're even taking into account morale and other psychological aspects.I disagree that muskets and hand cannons would be "useless", even compared to crossbows and longbows. Like all widely-used weapons, they had a specific place on the battlefield that crossbows and longbows would struggle to fit in, acting as a more dedicated anti-light-infantry option and a tool for supporting units likely to get caught by cavalry. In addition, they're substantially more accurate than you give them credit for, with even the early 15th-century examples being accurate up to several dozen paces. Since the issue is that the setting's human civilizations are more dedicated to magic than to complex engineering, it wouldn't be a problem to make Alexandre a dwarf. Would this work for you?
Definitly. Maybe that the second could even train the first with a sword, if you want to.
Since we seem to get into that discussion, let me butt in too.Not sure if I should be poking my head into this, but I don't think having an arquebusier-esque character would be too far-fetched, particularly if said character was a dwarf and had lore that made sense. Sure, early firearms were pretty unreliable and not the most accurate compared to a crossbow or bow, but they were still frightening weapons to fight against. Even if the loud bang and smoke doesn't do much physically, if someone has never seen anything like that before, they would naturally be shaken. But that's if we're even taking into account morale and other psychological aspects.
Since we seem to get into that discussion, let me butt in too.
I do agree with those points, but there is also the point of the vision the gms and the players had for the rp. Should an idea or aspect just not fit, they might be rejected even if reasonable. Less logical, more a thing of vibe and preferences. Might have to take that into consideration
Yeah, again, i agree with that and personally wouldn't have an issue with it. Im just trying to say some people might judge that differently. Some people just distaste firearms in their settings. Thats my whole point. The gms just might not want guns in their rp. I cant know, im just trying to give a new perspective to help resolve the matter. I dont really care if your characters has a heavy crossbow or some kinda early firearm.I'd gotten the vibe that this was a gritty, Dragon Age-ish fantasy focused more on brutal fighting than whimsical high-falutin' heroism, and I feel the other characters fit that mold well. If the issue is that humanity doesn't use guns yet, a dwarf could still fit the aesthetic without seeming anachronistic.
Sadly even if you changed your character into a dwarf, it still wouldn't be possible. Cannons are a thing that only Dwarves have but Guns aren't a thing.I disagree that muskets and hand cannons would be "useless", even compared to crossbows and longbows. Like all widely-used weapons, they had a specific place on the battlefield that crossbows and longbows would struggle to fit in, acting as a more dedicated anti-light-infantry option and a tool for supporting units likely to get caught by cavalry. In addition, they're substantially more accurate than you give them credit for, with even the early 15th-century examples being accurate up to several dozen paces. Since the issue is that the setting's human civilizations are more dedicated to magic than to complex engineering, it wouldn't be a problem to make Alexandre a dwarf. Would this work for you?
I'd love to, not sure what Grey would have to do with her though.Still looking for smby to interact with Ikasia
Not sure either. If Grey is frequently around, maybe Ikasia has had her services a few times before. She is a masterly warrior, but also due to the fact that she does not expect to be unharmed during a battle (especially when only using your weaker hand). Mostly minor cuts and scratches, maybe, if both are more travellers, they ran into each other a few times before?I'd love to, not sure what Grey would have to do with her though.