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Alator
The Scholar
Nephilim are talked up to be a pretty big deal in the show, while the pagan gods are supposedly diminished in the modern era.
Sorry for the delay in posting. I'm still not home. Been at urgent care getting injected with strange burning fluids
That Nephilim was the son of an Archangel, the other one we saw wasn't very impressive. And pagan gods has been among the few beings to effortlessly beat Winchesters, Kali proved to be able to bind an archangel to her, something Castiel couldn't do. They are diminished in a sense that once they were practically invincible, but many of them are still very powerful. (In a novel, a reaper (a being as powerful as a rank and file angel) admitted that Hel was much stronger than him, and she is not even the strongest Norse god.)
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NanLia
the one and only
Alator
The Scholar
Kind of fast-tracked Thor's time in Asgard, the real time is longer than the post suggests. :p
Alator
The Scholar
Btw feel free to guess the riddle :p
(Don't cheat though, heard it from a friend so quite sure the answer is out there lol)
(Don't cheat though, heard it from a friend so quite sure the answer is out there lol)
Safton
Mr. Heartbreaker
Jack is a special case for sure; Castiel can't even begin to guess at how powerful he'll be. However, he still makes a point that even bog-standard adult Nephilim are potential world destroyers. Jane was a threat to him and Metatron both, despite doing her best to live a normal life prior to that point (Nephilim grow exponentially in power with age and practice, not that they're weak to begin with). The Winchesters have killed several pagan gods in hand-to-hand using sharpened wooden stakes. Kali is definitely powerful, but frankly she seemed considerably more so than most of the other pagans present at the hotel. The thing with her binding Gabriel seemed to more of a ploy by the latter more than anything considering what happens after that point; and in any case, beings binding entities orders of magnitude more powerful than themselves isn't unheard of in SPN (unpowered Sam & Dean binding Death, for instance). It's worth noting that Castiel -- before he even got the Seraphim promotion -- was immediately able to see through Gabriel's disguise as Loki because he knew a mere trickster god couldn't run circles around him like Gabriel was managing to do.
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Alator
The Scholar
When the Winchesters have killed them, it was by suprising them (with stakes unique to each deity), unlike they how they do it with demons for example, that is just fighting them head-on. And I'd say Kali was at least on a comparable level of power with Baldur, as she seemed to respect him, and Odin is more powerful than Baldur. Kali really only took some of Gabriel's blood and had him bound within seconds, the Winchesters needed a ritual with extremely rare ingredients (and we also have that plot armor they have to consider).
Another proof is Lucifer's battle against them, he didn't really play with them, like he's done with Dean and Castiel. He absolutely hated them and destroyed them with extreme hatred, but as he's proved with angels, he could have just snapped his fingers and killed them all (He only stopped to greet Dean and Sam). Yet it seemed to take a bit more effort to bring them down, and his hand was shaking when catching that blow from Baron Samedi, unlike when he's restrained Castiel.
Tricksters are even referred to as demi-gods. And the things he did would be beyond either of the beings I mentioned to do as well.
Worth noting is as you say it is, power varies a lot between gods, Mercury, who ripped apart someone in seconds, was nothing compared to Kali. There are plenty of gods that would be weaker than the Nephilim, but I was referring to the most powerful of gods. As Kali was capable of destroying worlds, and she's likely not even the strongest, that'd put them on a similar level at least.
A Nephilim is in general stronger than their angelic parent, but when Castiel fought Jane he was weakened, and it is unclear how far she had come in her development, but she was hardly newborn.
(Sorry, I'm a massive lore nerd
)And nice, you got it right
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Alator
The Scholar
I will go with what NanLia says eitherway, just thought it was worth discussing ^^
Safton
Mr. Heartbreaker
I did rather extensive research on the matter before making my first post, and I couldn't find any mention of them being capable of destroying worlds (Jack could destroy more than that, but still, he's on another level). Nor that they grow exponentially in power they merely grow into them, and while it's unclear if she had fully done so, she wasn't newborn. He referred to them as one of the most dangerous beings in creation, but that also goes for angels and high-tier demons, if you compare them with every other being in creation.
And when the Winchesters have killed them, it was by suprising them, unlike they how they do it with demons for example. And I'd say Kali was at least on a comparable level of power with Baldur, as she seemed to respect him, and Odin is more powerful than Baldur. Kali really only took some of his blood and had him bound within seconds, the Winchesters needed a ritual with extremely rare ingredients (and we also have that plot armor they have to consider).
Another proof is Lucifer's battle against them, he didn't really play with them, like he's done with Dean and Castiel. He absolutely hated them and destroyed them with extreme hatred, but as he's proved with angels, he could have just snapped his fingers and killed them all (He only stopped to greet Dean and Sam). Yet it seemed to take a bit more effort to bring them down, and his hand was shaking when catching that blow from Baron Samedi, unlike when he's restrained Castiel.
Tricksters are even referred to as demi-gods. And the things he did would be beyond either of the beings I mentioned to do as well.
Worth noting is as you say it is, power varies a lot between gods, Mercury, who ripped apart someone in seconds, was nothing compared to Kali. There are plenty of gods that would be weaker than the Nephilim, but I was referring to the most powerful of gods.
A Nephilim is in general stronger than their angelic parent, but when Castiel fought Jane he was weakened. From what we saw they aren't Prince of Hell material for example.
(Sorry, I'm a massive lore nerd
Castiel supposedly calls them world destroyers (when fully grown) when describing Heaven's ancient laws against their creation. Jane certainly wasn't a newborn, but she was still relatively young and her dialogue suggests she attempted to live a normal life and never spent any real amount of time developing her innate powers. Castiel killed her while weakened, yes, but Nephilim don't have any special resistance to an angel blade and he stabbed her in the back after all in much the same way the Winchesters have ambushed pagans before.
Sam and Dean after being knocked unconscious and tortured manage to temporarily lock the two winter solstice gods in their kitchen, before scuffling with them and killing them with makeshift stakes hastily torn from the branches of a nearby Christmas tree. I'd be willing to say Kali has some special power in regards to binding, and an archangel is a couple of rungs below Death in any case. She didn't really seem to be able to seriously harm an archangel, considering Lucifer casually walks through her flames. He kills Mercury and Ganesh without even physically touching them, all while trapped in a visibly deteriorating, non-ideal vessel.
I have no doubt there are deities out there who would give Nephilim (or angels, for that matter) pause, especially when the former hasn't grown into their powers yet. That said, a lot of it depends on what rank of angel Alaric actually was. If he was a Seraphim, I could see it being reconcilable with the lore for even an unborn Nephilim being able to defend itself from attempts to extract its Grace. We could even fudge it and say in the hypothetical situation, the unborn child would be using the power of both his own soul and Ash's to fuel his Grace since they're currently linked.
(You and me both lol. I don't mean to quibble or sound condescending, I just like discussing hypotheticals like this. I'll stop now though, before we nerd the OOC up too much.
)And nice, you got it right
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St. Boethius
The Pious Philosopher
I am only a slight lore need, but it seems to me that gods are different from Angels in that even when weakened they're hard to kill. That's not to say an Angel can't smite them or something I just remember the Winchesters having to look through lore to find the specific thing to kill a specific god. The only God I think could give our Nephilim pause at this point would be Hades as he has been amassing souls, through Thanatos, to build up his power to hold the First Sin. Regardless, I would say Hades would take one look at the unborn nephilim and say No. He may theoretically have the power to do it, but it would likely cause him to use all the power he built up to hold the First Sin.
Also I think Hypnos is better off than most pagan gods because as a sleep god he can draw power from sleeping humans to fuel himself. Though as with recently he's been using more power than he can pool together, totally not because of new york.
Just my thoughts on the matter.
Also I think Hypnos is better off than most pagan gods because as a sleep god he can draw power from sleeping humans to fuel himself. Though as with recently he's been using more power than he can pool together, totally not because of new york.
Just my thoughts on the matter.
Alator
The Scholar
Safton
judging by them being world destroyers, they are much more powerful than normal angels. And would in that case be on par with the major gods. (I actually learned this today, missed several episodes of the 12th season, and missed the part where it stated what you said about them destroying worlds when growing into their power.)Those winter gods are amongst the more weak ones, the kind Thor has complained about on at least three occasions lol. And whilst Kali certainly is skilled at binding beings, there are more examples of extraordinary feats of magic by deities, such as Pluto.
Only archangels and above can harm archangels with their powers, Lucifer did flinch when the flames first struck him though :p, and Nick was still a strong vessel. Compared to how he dealt with angels they still looked like they required more effort (Thinking of Ganesh and Mercury).
Nontheless, I only started this discussion because I had doubts that a Nephilim, let alone a newborn, would be able to effortlessly beat powerful deities. Seeing as that would put it on par with archangels haha.
(Isn't this what OOC is for? ;p)
St. Boethius
So Hades has been hoarding all souls to himself? What about Zeus (more fun having him around) and Poseidon just to name greek gods. I can't imagine they'd accept that :p, I assumed it went directly to what's keeping the First Sin trapped, rather than Hades himself.
If he has been hoarding souls to himself like you say, that'd definitely put him above a Nephilim. Considering how powerful he already is being a major god, stronger than a Seraphim, and we saw what a Seraphim could accomplish with merely 50 000 souls vs Raphael.
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Alator
The Scholar
Also can someone explain to me what happened to Alaric in the first place???? haha
St. Boethius
The Pious Philosopher
I don't recall that well....
I wonder what heaven's/Hell's response is going to be to Hades hoarding souls.
NanLia
I wonder what heaven's/Hell's response is going to be to Hades hoarding souls.
NanLia
NanLia
the one and only
Safton
Alator
St. Boethius
Yay! Spn nerds unite!!
To start:
Alaric.
We know Nidelia wandered away and a few times she's messaged me to say she wants to return and will post, but never does.
As it stands the Ash/Alaric/Nephilim plot line continues only slightly altered. Alaric is disappeared for the time being but he is neither Heavens captive nor dead. (Whether or not he returns as NPC or otherwise has yet to be determined.)
Previously Alaric hinted at what power he had was far above that of a typical Angel and it was never revealed in RP cannon if he is or was a Seraphim. As it stands the Nephilims true strength is unknown until one or both the gods attempt at extracting its Grace.
As for Hade hording souls, he may be the keeper of the Keys, but Heaven has noticed. They are currently busy, focused on their own plans for defeating the First Sin.
The sticky wall will reveal all as we roll into the next portion of the rps plot.
St. Boethius
The Pious Philosopher
Can't wait for it!
Yay! Spn nerds unite!!
To start:
Alaric.
We know Nidelia wandered away and a few times she's messaged me to say she wants to return and will post, but never does.
As it stands the Ash/Alaric/Nephilim plot line continues only slightly altered. Alaric is disappeared for the time being but he is neither Heavens captive nor dead. (Whether or not he returns as NPC or otherwise has yet to be determined.)
Previously Alaric hinted at what power he had was far above that of a typical Angel and it was never revealed in RP cannon if he is or was a Seraphim. As it stands the Nephilims true strength is unknown until one or both the gods attempt at extracting its Grace.
As for Hade hording souls, he may be the keeper of the Keys, but Heaven has noticed. They are currently busy, focused on their own plans for defeating the First Sin.
The sticky wall will reveal all as we roll into the next portion of the rps plot.
Safton
Mr. Heartbreaker
Disclaimer: I'm super drowsy from my meds right now, so I'm liable to leave stuff out
Everyone else feel free to chime in and add whatever I miss!- Most of the cast are currently aware of an impending apocalyptic event brought about by the rising of the "First Sin", an ancient entity that has been kept under lock and key by gods and angels for thousands of years. If too many Seals containing the First Sin are broken, it will escape and wreak Havoc on the Earth.
- Chase is working as an inside man within the Pack for the Colony and is slowly being accepted by them, particularly their Alpha. The Pack professes that they are not interested in massacring Vitae, only liberating them from their Council and securing assistance against the First Sin.
- The Pack has a human sympathizer somewhere inside the Colony feeding them information. Mackenzie and William are trying to track them down, but have been unsuccessful so far.
- Unbeknownst to Chase, Joe was found dead this morning by Ash. He was stabbed in the back and bled out at the Vitae rec center. His killer's identity is currently unknown, though at the time he was attempting to find a way to mitigate the bloodlust of a juvenile werewolf he and Chase had encountered before.
- Vitae's Council has forged an alliance with Franklin DeBois, a vampire Den Master from the North whom Mackenzie once served. He has promised support against the Pack when their attack comes.
- Adelaide Moreau, a psychic & white witch and friend/associate of Will & Elijah has showed up at Vitae to try and help out Vitae.
- Will, Mackenzie, Adelaide, Hypnos, and Thor are all aware of Ashley-May's pregnancy with a Nephilim. Having been informed that carrying a Nephilim to term will result in Ash's death, they're working on finding a way to possibly extract its angelic grace before it's born, giving it a chance at a normal life.
- Murehuanon, a powerful Crossroads Demon that once possessed Ashley-May before being exorcised by Mackenzie has returned. He is at war with the Pack and Franklin's Den and is interested in making a deal to take Ashley-May's soul and the Grace of her child to boost his own power in exchange for dealing with the Pack. He also informed Will about his true parentage: his father was a Grigori angel, his mother a hunter. They took the deal before he was born and both are now dead while William was born as and lived as a normal human.
- Hunters from Vitae along with Thor managed to rescue the wife of Hades from Minotaur (the same company that held Pasithea), who has promised the Colony a reward that's yet to be decided on.
- A band of Kitsune led by Jordan Grace have shown up in the area around Vitae. The Pack is wary of their presence but the two are not actively hostile towards one another.
- Hypnos is currently in Japan with the aforementioned Kitsune attempting to preserve one of the Seals containing the First Sin.
- Ginny, a teenage Djinn whose family was slain by Hunters, has shown up at Vitae disguised as a human. After a brief stay, she has recently been outed as a Djinn to Will, Mackenzie, and Adelaide after being found at the scene of Joe's death.
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Safton
Mr. Heartbreaker
No problem! 
NanLia
the one and only
This is a perfect example as to what kind of stupidity I deal with at work on a near constant basis.....
NanLia
the one and only
Just to put this into perspective: They had just exited the car wash, so .... they were doing like 5km...
Safton
Mr. Heartbreaker
THE TREE CAME RIGHT AT US.
