Revolt of the Outer Rim - Out of Character

Psst... Don't tell anyone, but it's something we're 'planning' to do. Infiltrate the Rim, kick their asses, get out of the Rim. E-Z as shitz.


And by the way, yo ass don't got to be disavowed agent. We can all just huddle up, as extremely superior soldiers, in an orbital shuttle, and plan our next tax deductible operation.
 
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ToolorDie said:
Maybe in the Metal Gear Solid sense, but not in the literal sense. Espionage is being a spy - a character type we haven't seen introduced yet. What you two are doing is an infiltration. Albeit surreptitious/clandestine, something like a SO team, but nothing like espionage.
*Pushes up glasses*
We going to be spying on the Rim's rear ends, to obtain strategic military intelligence, and then end said obtaining of military intelligence, by kicking aforementioned rear ends.
 
Elephantom said:
The UCM side will infiltrate the base through an abandoned ventilation system, outside their fortified structure, which has series of tunnels one of which connects to the main bases' supply depot.
Our group, Thomas and Van (unfortunately only two), will go through the tunnels, emerge from said tunnels. And then proceed to kick their asses, and shut down the sentry defences from the mainframe, which will allow the cavalry to drop hell down on the base.


An extremely easy mission. In and out, in no time, or so I suppose.
This was your original MO, while it was stated OOC and certainly subject to change, it is not espionage. Should a new PC want to enter as a secret agent (espionage) that would be unique, not what the quoted material describes. I think it is important not to bundle char-types, if only for the sake of diversity.
 
YumenoTsukishiro said:
Bah humbug. @Elephantom, you've summoned her. Prepare. :D
UCM Espionage Specialist incoming!!
Treat her well


@Archie


Not to impose any rules but for the Neutral Characters, are they open to RP with or is their creator responsible for interaction with a Player Character interacting the Neutral Character?
 
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ToolorDie said:
This was your original MO, while it was stated OOC and certainly subject to change, it is not espionage. Should a new PC want to enter as a secret agent (espionage) that would be unique, not what the quoted material describes. I think it is important not to bundle char-types, if only for the sake of diversity.
This ain't espionage, doll. The mission is completely different, and is an offensive against the worker's army. It's like mission one, in this potential series of operations against the outer rim. My character was promoted because of his espionage, and he also specializes in infiltration operations, and as such, was intended to participate in espionage operations. But he can't perform espionage in this mission, due to no existing affiliation to the worker's army. And this aside, the objective is to disable the sentry, and the crippling anti-air defences.


But in the end, it's still going to be a bunch of men huddled in an orbital shuttle, because the UCM really, really lacks soldiers, viable soldiers. As in player-controlled soldiers.


There's a need for them.


Join us Tool, we offer free cookies.
 
Elephantom said:
This ain't espionage, doll. The mission is completely different, and is an offensive against the worker's army. It's like mission one, in this potential series of operations against the outer rim. My character was promoted because of his espionage, and he also specializes in infiltration operations, and as such, was intended to participate in espionage operations. But he can't perform espionage in this mission, due to no existing affiliation to the worker's army. And this aside, the objective is to disable the sentry, and the crippling anti-air defences.
But in the end, it's still going to be a bunch of men huddled in an orbital shuttle, because the UCM really, really lacks soldiers, viable soldiers. As in player-controlled soldiers.


There's a need for them.


Join us Tool, we offer free cookies.
I'm surprised there isn't someone who's like a drone control master in the UCM yet. Or someone who can hack into drone networks.
 
Elephantom said:
This ain't espionage, doll. The mission is completely different, and is an offensive against the worker's army.
Right, so exactly what I said. Don't do that 'doll' bs please! At least not in OOC!

It's like mission one, in this potential series of operations against the outer rim. My character was promoted because of his espionage, and he also specializes in infiltration operations, and as such, was intended to participate in espionage operations. But he can't perform espionage in this mission, due to no existing affiliation to the worker's army. And this aside, the objective is to disable the sentry, and the crippling anti-air defences.
So he isn't espionage, basically. I mean that is what I gather. If he was espionage, he is not for this mission - currently! He isn't gathering intel, he's knocking hinges! AGAIN: Don't limit character availability! I even quoted your original intention.

But in the end, it's still going to be a bunch of men huddled in an orbital shuttle, because the UCM really, really lacks soldiers, viable soldiers. As in player-controlled soldiers.
No. Other way around. Look at any other rebellion army in history. Lack of PC's means nothing, literally. We have a galaxy-wide story here, with a new tab for NPC's. Neither side need be lacking. In fact we have a dire need for them, at least for people like my character who don't have a key role in the immediate action.


There's a need for them.


*Refuses to bite propaganda-cookie*
 
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C'mon, telling referring to other peoples as dolls and sports, are the new best thing.



But...



*Cough*



There's a need for them??!?!?



*Gags*



We're in dire need of men, and you're talking about rebels? Who's side are you on?



And, you were trying to mean that we're going to implant Sam into the espionage game... As a socialist grunt?



*More gagging*



You're crazy!



Do you expect Sam to toil away on a field, whilst we knock hinges in luxury?



Why are you behaving so crazy? The 'in and out' mission doesn't require extensive espionage and deep cover, it's a simple 'offensive', like we're really, really close to them.



And we need more workforce, grunts to roll around in the dust. Immediate action is needed, heavily. Damn you, eat propaganda cookies right now!



*Offers a platter of cookies*



Come to our side!



Anyway, Sam, we need techno-wizards, like, right now! The rebels are superbly losing? And we need to make them lose harder! Assist the winning side! We need mechanismo technomancers now! Sign up for UCM today! Long live Big Ape!



*Cue phaser effect*



@ToolorDie


@YumenoTsukishiro
 
Elephantom said:
C'mon, telling referring to other peoples as dolls and sports, are the new best thing.


But...



*Cough*



There's a need for them??!?!?



*Gags*



We're in dire need of men, and you're talking about rebels? Who's side are you on?



And, you were trying to mean that we're going to implant Sam into the espionage game... As a socialist grunt?



*More gagging*



You're crazy!



Do you expect Sam to toil away on a field, whilst we knock hinges in luxury?



Why are you behaving so crazy? The 'in and out' mission doesn't require extensive espionage and deep cover, it's a simple 'offensive', like we're really, really close to them.



And we need more workforce, grunts to roll around in the dust. Immediate action is needed, heavily. Damn you, eat propaganda cookies right now!



*Offers a platter of cookies*



Come to our side!



Anyway, Sam, we need techno-wizards, like, right now! The rebels are superbly losing? And we need to make them lose harder! Assist the winning side! We need mechanismo technomancers now! Sign up for UCM today! Long live Big Ape!



*Cue phaser effect*



@ToolorDie


@YumenoTsukishiro
*Awkwardly attempts to eat an egg roll while cringing.* COUGHdesCOUGHpeCOUGHrateCOUGH Sorry.... Choked on the flaky skin of this egg roll.
 
Coward said:
@Elephantom, sorry for slow post but there you go!
Is anyone actually opposing us though? Or will we need NPC enemies?
Okay, we do actually need an enemy. Something like a HVT. We get in, capture that guy, and we get our. As simple as that.


Although I do need permission from @Archie to proceed to tweak the story a bit. Create a more bigger driving force, and make this mission a bit longer.
 
Elephantom said:
Okay, we do actually need an enemy. Something like a HVT. We get in, capture that guy, and we get our. As simple as that.
Although I do need permission from @Archie to proceed and tweak the story a bit. Create a more bigger driving force, and make this mission a bit longer.
Elephantom said:
Okay, we do actually need an enemy. Something like a HVT. We get in, capture that guy, and we get our. As simple as that.
Although I do need permission from @Archie to proceed to tweak the story a bit. Create a more bigger driving force, and make this mission a bit longer.
Dat double post. Huehuehuehue
 
[QUOTE="Wandering Hollow]*Awkwardly attempts to eat an egg roll while cringing.* COUGHdesCOUGHpeCOUGHrateCOUGH Sorry.... Choked on the flaky skin of this egg roll.

[/QUOTE]
Join the winning side, Wax. We have a ridiculous amount of cookies... Delicious (authentic) chocolate chip cookies...
 
[QUOTE="Wandering Hollow]Sure. I would but the Pilots' Guild are too much fun.

[/QUOTE]
Or they use plastic alternatives to chocolates.


Tsk tsk.


So poor.
 
Elephantom said:
Yo ass on my side, or the void...?
I'm on my own side. *Noms on the sweet sweet artificial cookie.* Sure it might be plastic-ty and a little tasteless but then again, margarine is only a few hydrogen bonds away from actual plastic so..... Yeah. *Nom*
 
(Laughs) We don't mess around with cookies. We offer fighters with dual rail cannons, quad linked laser clusters for missile defense and a pair of EMP missiles.
 
Tarmagon said:
(Laughs) We don't mess around with cookies. We offer fighters with dual rail cannons, quad linked laser clusters for missile defense and a pair of EMP missiles.
I have posted, Sir! ....... *Collapses into sleep. Its 0117 now. ;-;*
 
Tarmagon said:
(Laughs) We don't mess around with cookies. We offer fighters with dual rail cannons, quad linked laser clusters for missile defense and a pair of EMP missiles.
And still can't afford chocolate?


Tsk Tsk.


Deductions ended up to be a bit too true.
 
Elephantom said:
C'mon, telling referring to other peoples as dolls and sports, are the new best thing.

Don't tell or refer me as anything like that.





Elephantom said:

But...



*Cough*



There's a need for them??!?!?



*Gags*
Yes. No amount of cutesy flare you put in a post will change that argument.




Elephantom said:
We're in dire need of men, and you're talking about rebels? Who's side are you on?
Do you know what OOC means?? We need unique characters, not what you're doing, which is a "Oh I do that too" character. A secret agent spy type of character is something we don't have. I'm on the side of everyone who is participating in this RP.




Elephantom said:

And, you were trying to mean that we're going to implant Sam into the espionage game... As a socialist grunt?



*More gagging*

Here we go again. I don't do the whole....Look at my cutesy pizzaz post! I just stick to logic and fact. I'm suggesting he be whatever character he want, I encouraged his idea of being an espionage-type because we don't have one, and then you suddenly changed your character to "Oh I do that too." Let's not go in circles.





Elephantom said:

You're crazy!

You are the type of person who, back in the day, would say that to the person who claimed the world is
not flat. Not crazy, just using the thing between my ears. I encourage you to do the same.




Elephantom said:

Do you expect Sam to toil away on a field, whilst we knock hinges in luxury?

I don't expect him to do anything, but I'd like him to join the RP and have some fun. He was on the right track with a unique character, but, again, you decided "Oh my character is also that."





Elephantom said:

Why are you behaving so crazy? The 'in and out' mission doesn't require extensive espionage and deep cover, it's a simple 'offensive', like we're really, really close to them.

I'm crazy because I can distinguish IC from OOC. Ok buddy. Get a grip on reality dude. Look at your freaking sentence. "Doesn't require espionage." Then why the hell would you say you have an espionage character? I don't care about your fabricated mission, I care about a diverse cast, which we can have if you would just stick to your character, keep him consistent, and let other's fill in the the gaps. Don't try to spread your character out to be everything. "Oh my char is espionage. And a pilot. He's a survivalist too. And a rescue swimmer. He's a genius he has photographic memory he's a chef he's an acrobat he's an Olympic marathon runner he's a" - you get my point.





Elephantom said:

And we need more workforce, grunts to roll around in the dust. Immediate action is needed, heavily. Damn you, eat propaganda cookies right now!

Just scroll up, I'm not doing another lap for you.





Elephantom said:

*Offers a platter of cookies*



Come to our side!



Anyway, Sam, we need techno-wizards, like, right now! The rebels are superbly losing? And we need to make them lose harder! Assist the winning side! We need mechanismo technomancers now! Sign up for UCM today! Long live Big Ape!

If we crossed this entire section out, it would affect nothing in this conversation.





Elephantom said:

*Cue phaser effect*




Could you imagine if people really did stuff like this? Take the presidential debates for instance, or maybe a court hearing or anything really. Can you imagine, in your mind, these people trying to do some cutesy red herring every 5 seconds? It would be a joke. Which is how I feel about our conversation.






@Elephantom
 

Look, buddy. I don't know if you're actually understanding the whole conversation, which is what intended to be a joke in the first place, and which you perhaps ignored with your obviously Poindexter attitude. But let me educate you about this subject as briefly as I can, I'm a weird, paranoid guy, yes I'll admit that, and I was actually going for a 'cutesy' vibe, all in good humour. Which is what you ruined, like, by insulting me now. You called me a joke, also called me a person who doesn't understand that the Earth is round. You know, I really, really hate liars, and you actually justified that fact without knowing about me, or whatever personal knowledge I contain within me.



Let me also elaborate the fact that you intruded upon my light-hearted sentence, about a thing we're already 'doing'. I didn't forbid him, seriously or so. And neither did he mind, I always act like that, an asshole, of course.



But you just took stuff into a wholly different league, by downright insulting all my attempts at trying to make this situation more friendly, mind you, this was done in a spirited manner, not to annoy you, but to just have some fun with some great pals.



Stop your shifty all-work, no-fun attitude, and look at the big picture, I didn't post that thing for it to be acknowledged as a 'cutesy, pizzazz' post or whatever you think of it as.



Drop the beat,
@Wandering Hollow, things reached a whole new level.




ToolorDie said:
Don't tell or refer me as anything like that.

Sounds fair to me.





ToolorDie said:
Yes. No amount of cutesy flare you put in a post will change that argument.

Yes, it will change the argument, Tool. It will, for it was done in a truly humble intention. I mean no harm, absolutely no harm to you, even if you see it as such.





ToolorDie said:
Do you know what OOC means?? We need unique characters, not what you're doing, which is a "Oh I do that too" character. A secret agent spy type of character is something we don't have. I'm on the side of everyone who is participating in this RP.

We're friends, I said that to annoy him, and get some cool, swag points by annoying you too. You can ask him, I do that every day.





ToolorDie said:
Here we go again. I don't do the whole....Look at my cutesy pizzaz post! I just stick to logic and fact. I'm suggesting he be whatever character he want, I encouraged his idea of being an espionage-type because we don't have one, and then you suddenly changed your character to "Oh I do that too." Let's not go in circles.

Why are you changing the facts, Tool. This post isn't meant to be serious. Just read the whole thing over and over again, until you understand it. I'm not trying to create enmity here, Tool, you have to understand that. There's no aggression here.





ToolorDie said:
You are the type of person who, back in the day, would say that to the person who claimed the world is not flat. Not crazy, just using the thing between my ears. I encourage you to do the same.

First of all, this is really, really rude. Like really rude. I'm sorry if this comment seemed aggressive or offensive to you, I apologize for my jokes, now would you please drop all these attacks. Strike my argument, not my character. Why would anyone do that?





ToolorDie said:
I don't expect him to do anything, but I'd like him to join the RP and have some fun. He was on the right track with a unique character, but, again, you decided "Oh my character is also that."

First of all, it really wasn't a conversation you were supposed to interrupt, mate. I didn't forbid him to create a character, and I never did so. From the beginning of time, from every single RP I've met him in, I never restricted his character creation options. Why are you trying to make me his enemy, or vice versa, Tool? What have you against me?





ToolorDie said:
I'm crazy because I can distinguish IC from OOC. Ok buddy. Get a grip on reality dude. Look at your freaking sentence. "Doesn't require espionage." Then why the hell would you say you have an espionage character? I don't care about your fabricated mission, I care about a diverse cast, which we can have if you would just stick to your character, keep him consistent, and let other's fill in the the gaps. Don't try to spread your character out to be everything. "Oh my char is espionage. And a pilot. He's a survivalist too. And a rescue swimmer. He's a genius he has photographic memory he's a chef he's an acrobat he's an Olympic marathon runner he's a" - you get my point.

He ain't even doing espionage, Tool. Pardon me if I misunderstood your meaning, I thought you were going for him to be a mole in the
worker's army. And I never said anything about my character being anything other than an espionage/infiltration operative. And Archie even approved of my character trying to infiltrate the Outer Rim, in later stages of the RP, of course. He isn't even a pilot, for God's sake. The mission isn't fabricated, bud. It was originally created by Archie, and we discussed it over to tweak it a bit, both me and Tar. You're making up stuff right now. There's no fabrication. Really no fabrication.




ToolorDie said:
Just scroll up, I'm not doing another lap for you.

This was a joke. Why are you pursuing this subject so deliriously. Its literally getting real scary right now.





ToolorDie said:
If we crossed this entire section out, it would affect nothing in this conversation.

Cause my idea was actually more diverse, even if it was said with more humour, awful or otherwise, in mind.





ToolorDie said:
Could you imagine if people really did stuff like this? Take the presidential debates for instance, or maybe a court hearing or anything really. Can you imagine, in your mind, these people trying to do some cutesy red herring every 5 seconds? It would be a joke. Which is how I feel about our conversation.

Cause that is what I intended for this conversation to be. A tool for a bigger joke.



Look, I'm extremely sorry if I caused any grievances. I was wrong, you happy now, you old chap? C'mon, why can't we really just end this crippling argument and just be normal friends. Why can't anyone understand this. Yes, I did pull of some seriously offensive jokes, but I do apologize for it. There's no justifications, pal. Let's just cool down, and have a single virtual drink, just for this one time? I'll even give you a dank meme.



(I just realized that I could've put this effort into replying coward's post. You're making me really bitter, Tool. It just ain't right.)
 
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Elephantom said:
Look, buddy. I don't know if you're actually understanding the whole conversation, which is what intended to be a joke in the first place, and which you perhaps ignored with your obviously Poindexter attitude. But let me educate you about this subject as briefly as I can, I'm a weird, paranoid guy, yes I'll admit that, and I was actually going for a 'cutesy' vibe, all in good humour. Which is what you ruined, like, by insulting me now. You called me a joke, also called me a person who doesn't understand that the Earth is round. You know, I really, really hate liars, and you actually justified that fact without knowing about me, or whatever personal knowledge I contain within me.

Trivial monologue, entirely inaccurate, zero relevance. I can see you're paranoid by the fact you claim I made statements I never did. I didn't call you a joke, I called the conversation a joke. I didn't say you believe the Earth is flat, I said you're the type of person to call a rational person crazy. But way to spin the narrative.





Elephantom said:
Let me also elaborate the fact that you intruded upon my light-hearted sentence, about a thing we're already 'doing'. I didn't forbid him, seriously or so. And neither did he mind, I always act like that, an asshole, of course.

Except he brought up the idea of a character that hasn't been done before, and as I said, you suddenly conjured the notion that your character was already the type of char he was implicating. That was the only 'intrusion.'





Elephantom said:

But you just took stuff into a wholly different league, by downright insulting all my attempts at trying to make this situation more friendly, mind you, this was done in a spirited manner, not to annoy you, but to just have some fun with some great pals.

You called me crazy. Don't start spiraling into insanity yourself, painting pictures of things that never, ever happened.





Elephantom said:

Stop your shifty all-work, no-fun attitude, and look at the big picture, I didn't post that thing for it to be acknowledged as a 'cutesy, pizzazz' post or whatever you think of it as.

I'm having a blast dude, seriously. You took it to the extreme in your "not cutesy" post, not me. I responded to it. You have to deal with responses to your behavior, that is just a real world, every day thing that happens.





Elephantom said:

Drop the beat,
@Wandering Hollow, things reached a whole new level.

Oh boy....here we go again.





Elephantom said:

Sounds fair to me.



Yes, it will change the argument, Tool. It will, for it was done in a truly humble intention. I mean no harm, absolutely no harm to you, even if you see it as such.



We're friends, I said that to annoy him, and get some cool, swag points by annoying you too. You can ask him, I do that every day.

I know you don't. Even if either us wished harm upon the other, it simply isn't possible. Swag points....by annoying me. I don't even know what to do with that, Eleph.





Elephantom said:

Why are you changing the facts, Tool. This post isn't meant to be serious. Just read the whole thing over and over again, until you understand it. I'm not trying to create enmity here, Tool, you have to understand that. There's no aggression here.

Ok....Maybe don't call me crazy for bringing up a valid point then. I mean you do whatever you want, but don't be surprised by the responses to your behavior. Why are we doing circles again?





Elephantom said:

First of all, this is really, really rude. Like really rude. I'm sorry if this comment seemed aggressive or offensive to you, I apologize for my jokes, now would you please drop all these attacks. Strike my argument, not my character. Why would anyone do that?

I didn't. You struck my 'character' by calling me crazy. How about you go over the scripts again and sort your facts out, you are clearly in a delusional state. That's not an attack on your character, that is sincere concern for your well-being if this is truly the vantage point you have of our situation here. Really really really. Like Really.





Elephantom said:

First of all, it really wasn't a conversation you were supposed to interrupt, mate. I didn't forbid him to create a character, and I never did so. From the beginning of time, from every single RP I've met him in, I never restricted his character creation options. Why are you trying to make me his enemy, or vice versa, Tool? What have you against me?

No, you said your character was espionage when he isn't, and deterred him from being a perfectly viable and unique character. This has nothing to do with personal aggression, is has to do, and only to do, with you shutting down a great character concept under the guise that you already had that character, which you do not.





Elephantom said:

He ain't even doing espionage, Tool. Pardon me if I misunderstood your meaning, I thought you were going for him to be a mole in the
worker's army. And I never said anything about my character being anything other than an espionage/infiltration operative. And Archie even approved of my character trying to infiltrate the Outer Rim, in later stages of the RP, of course. He isn't even a pilot, for God's sake. The mission isn't fabricated, bud. It was originally created by Archie, and we discussed it over to tweak it a bit, both me and Tar. You're making up stuff right now. There's no fabrication. Really no fabrication.

This entire story is fabricated, of our personal creation, and your character is not in any way an espionage character until you suddenly claimed him to be. You seriously need to learn the definitions of terminology you're getting yourself into. This entire segment is void of any value. Don't take that as a personal attack, I'm not trying to hurt your feelings, I'm just pointing out that you are clearly confused on definitions.





Elephantom said:

This was a joke. Why are you pursuing this subject so deliriously. Its literally getting real scary right now.

Yeah because I'm the one who resorted to calling people crazy and 'doll' Don't try to make this something I started, because I didn't. I encouraged a character concept where you attempted to claim it had already been done. I am damn sure going to be the one on top when it is over, because I'm using a rational mind and staying consistent.





Elephantom said:

Cause my idea was actually more diverse, even if it was said with more humour, awful or otherwise, in mind.

This is just false. Not much else to say about that.





Elephantom said:

Cause that is what I intended for this conversation to be. A tool for a bigger joke.



Look, I'm extremely sorry if I caused any grievances. I was wrong, you happy now, you old chap? C'mon, why can't we really just end this crippling argument and just be normal friends. Why can't anyone understand this. Yes, I did pull of some seriously offensive jokes, but I do apologize for it. There's no justifications, pal. Let's just cool down, and have a single virtual drink, just for this one time? I'll even give you a dank meme.

"I'm sorry you got upset."



I get it, you want an easy way out of a situation you created, and here it is. A fake apology, a shift of the blame, all the routine work of a man caught up in a situation he wasn't prepared for.





Elephantom said:

(I just realized that I could've put this effort into replying coward's post. You're making me really bitter, Tool. It just ain't right.)
(Then go do it and make sure to keep your character consistent, unless you wanted him to also be a ninja and a samurai that can go super saiyan while juggling. < -- - pizzaz and cutesy.)
 
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