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Fandom Pokémon: Rise of Shadows (OOC)
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Daisie
Seared with story
Yep. I know the drill.
Latios
The only Black Latios
Yes
Emperor Of Embers
Pokemon do indeed eat other Pokemon. Just like in the real world animals eat other animals. There are some Pokédex entries that tell of Pokemon eating others and Pokemon that have developed protection against their pretenders.
For example: I believe for Pidgeot (Or one of its evolutions) the fez says it eats Caterpie as its main diet.
However the system of a food chain gets complicated in the Pokemon world because Pokemon are intelligent and can communicate with one another. Pokemon have been seen to make friends with each other and I think I've seen somewhere the Ash's Pidgeotto NOT attack his Metapod (#Metapod vs. Metapod battle. Anyone remember that nightmare.) meaning that Predetor can make friends with Prey.
So it gets wierd with that so I always believed that the way to fix that was to have Pokemon be more intelligent than others allowing different levels of understanding between species allowing species of higher intellect to befriend those of the same level and prey on those lower.
Emperor Of Embers
Pokemon do indeed eat other Pokemon. Just like in the real world animals eat other animals. There are some Pokédex entries that tell of Pokemon eating others and Pokemon that have developed protection against their pretenders.For example: I believe for Pidgeot (Or one of its evolutions) the fez says it eats Caterpie as its main diet.
However the system of a food chain gets complicated in the Pokemon world because Pokemon are intelligent and can communicate with one another. Pokemon have been seen to make friends with each other and I think I've seen somewhere the Ash's Pidgeotto NOT attack his Metapod (#Metapod vs. Metapod battle. Anyone remember that nightmare.) meaning that Predetor can make friends with Prey.
So it gets wierd with that so I always believed that the way to fix that was to have Pokemon be more intelligent than others allowing different levels of understanding between species allowing species of higher intellect to befriend those of the same level and prey on those lower.
Latios
The only Black Latios
And as for Genesis's assumption. All Pokemon can indeed eat Berries, making Carnivore only Pokemon impossible (as a real carnivore would never eat fruit).
If the Pokemon is indeed classified as Herbevoirs though (like most Grass types would be) that does not mean they are at the bottom of the food chain like in the real world. The food chain would be described by how intelligent they are compared to others.
If the Pokemon is indeed classified as Herbevoirs though (like most Grass types would be) that does not mean they are at the bottom of the food chain like in the real world. The food chain would be described by how intelligent they are compared to others.
Latios
The only Black Latios
And fish is an obvious choice of meal for Pokemkn because most Aquatic life would be at the bottom of the food chain for obvious reasons (This dosen't include all though as Pokemkn like Wailord would be not as intelligent as most but is too large to accually hunt and kill.)
Daisie
Seared with story
Latios. Bro. Calmyourself
Assailant
The SHSL Shadow Alchemy Stand Using Lab Member
Take a deep breath Latios.
Also, I just realized. I am basing Max's eating habits off of those of real world dogs (for instance, he eats even the bones of his prey.) if I was being truly faithful, that would mean that Max would have a tendency to eat feces as well.
Also, I just realized. I am basing Max's eating habits off of those of real world dogs (for instance, he eats even the bones of his prey.) if I was being truly faithful, that would mean that Max would have a tendency to eat feces as well.
Latios
The only Black Latios
... Sorry, I get carried away when I explain stuff. I even had more coming when I got finished with my chores just now (been taking breaks in between because it's so fricking hot outside.)
Yeah, none of that please. Unless your a Heracross which is based of a Dung Beetle that is know to do that stuff
Latios
The only Black Latios
Btw, do take in mind that all the stuff I said about this Pokemon food chain (even the parts I didn't get to talk about because I was stopped) isn't cannon. It's just a way for me to fill in the missing blanks for what Pokemon fails to give us information on. The only part that is cannon is that Pokemon eat other Pokemon (and maybe even sometimes humans) that are lesser than them.
Latios
The only Black Latios
Great, now I can't stop thinking about it because I never got to finish. Must... Resist... Giving Details.
Latios
The only Black Latios
That's it, I'm giving the rest. But I'll spare you all by putting it in a spoiler so you can read it at your own free will.
Besides how intelligent a Pokemon is, there are other factors that would raise its rank on the food chain. These traits would be Brutality and Capability.
For example. Brutality would be how dangerous a Pokemon is. It may not be the smartest to allowing understanding and bonding between other Pokemon at the same place in the food chain but how deadly it is would give it the bonus points it needs to be higher. Salamance vs Dragonite is a good example. Salamance isn't the smartest of the bunch but their Brutality makes it a dangerous foe and unlikely to be hunted himself. If you look at the instants that Salamance appeared in the Anime you can see that Salamance has been simply the muscle for their Trainers (example: Hunter J, "The Great Buttler" Their Salamance's simply obeyed their trainers orders and brute forced their way though battles). So Salamance gets points because they are very dangerous Pokemon (to a point where fez entries even say they attack their own trainers). Dragonite on the other hand is both Powerful and Intelligent. This is shown by a particular Dragonite in the "First Movie" where Mewtwo sends a Dragonite to give a letter to Ash. Finding Ash couldn't have been exactly easy. Where a homing Pigeon could simply fly home to deliver a message the Dragonite did something much more complicated, finding a person in the middle of know where. Not only that, when it did find Ash, it had to know which of Ash's group to give the letter too and which letter out of the (possible) several letters in its bag.
Capability is about how well equipped a Pokemon is to survive. These Pokemon would have very random places in the food chain because what they have to offer. It may not be a high Predetor on the list but this Pokemon has the cabibility to defend itself well enough that it isn't on anyone's list of food choices. A Pokemon like Alakazam would be in this category because it isn't the kind of Pokemon that seems to be a top predator but also looks to be a Pokemon that can defend itself easily.
Herbevoirs are also weird in this because of their Capability. Example: Venasuar is a Pokemon that would get its food from both plants and the sun itself because of having the ability to use photosynthesis. However Venasuar is powerful enough to fend off attackers and has the added bonus of releasing toxic fumes.
This also brings up Poison Types. Once again they may not be at the top but not every Pokemon is going to attack them for risk of being poisoned upon eating them. (Similar to how Butterflies keep birds from eating them. They can't stand the taste). But not every Poison Type would do this. Muk would make one sick upon consumption but Venasuar is a Posion Type but wouldn't poison the consumer if it was killed.
For now, that's all I have to say. If I forgot anything let me know.
For example. Brutality would be how dangerous a Pokemon is. It may not be the smartest to allowing understanding and bonding between other Pokemon at the same place in the food chain but how deadly it is would give it the bonus points it needs to be higher. Salamance vs Dragonite is a good example. Salamance isn't the smartest of the bunch but their Brutality makes it a dangerous foe and unlikely to be hunted himself. If you look at the instants that Salamance appeared in the Anime you can see that Salamance has been simply the muscle for their Trainers (example: Hunter J, "The Great Buttler" Their Salamance's simply obeyed their trainers orders and brute forced their way though battles). So Salamance gets points because they are very dangerous Pokemon (to a point where fez entries even say they attack their own trainers). Dragonite on the other hand is both Powerful and Intelligent. This is shown by a particular Dragonite in the "First Movie" where Mewtwo sends a Dragonite to give a letter to Ash. Finding Ash couldn't have been exactly easy. Where a homing Pigeon could simply fly home to deliver a message the Dragonite did something much more complicated, finding a person in the middle of know where. Not only that, when it did find Ash, it had to know which of Ash's group to give the letter too and which letter out of the (possible) several letters in its bag.
Capability is about how well equipped a Pokemon is to survive. These Pokemon would have very random places in the food chain because what they have to offer. It may not be a high Predetor on the list but this Pokemon has the cabibility to defend itself well enough that it isn't on anyone's list of food choices. A Pokemon like Alakazam would be in this category because it isn't the kind of Pokemon that seems to be a top predator but also looks to be a Pokemon that can defend itself easily.
Herbevoirs are also weird in this because of their Capability. Example: Venasuar is a Pokemon that would get its food from both plants and the sun itself because of having the ability to use photosynthesis. However Venasuar is powerful enough to fend off attackers and has the added bonus of releasing toxic fumes.
This also brings up Poison Types. Once again they may not be at the top but not every Pokemon is going to attack them for risk of being poisoned upon eating them. (Similar to how Butterflies keep birds from eating them. They can't stand the taste). But not every Poison Type would do this. Muk would make one sick upon consumption but Venasuar is a Posion Type but wouldn't poison the consumer if it was killed.
For now, that's all I have to say. If I forgot anything let me know.
Assailant
The SHSL Shadow Alchemy Stand Using Lab Member
I see you put a lot of thought into this. Good job.
*proceeds to try to think of any way that Max and Emlas could interact that wouldn't be out of character and/or time wasting*
*proceeds to try to think of any way that Max and Emlas could interact that wouldn't be out of character and/or time wasting*
Latios
The only Black Latios
I put a lot of thought into many things. Trying to make sure that all the details work out and don't leave any holes as well.
The Pokemon world has A LOT of missing information and has a lot of "Bull crap" because of it being a children show (the game has its own different kind of Bull Crap because something called video game logic exists)
I get its a fictional universe but it's not too absurd that we can't make explanations to things.
The Pokemon world has A LOT of missing information and has a lot of "Bull crap" because of it being a children show (the game has its own different kind of Bull Crap because something called video game logic exists)
I get its a fictional universe but it's not too absurd that we can't make explanations to things.
Assailant
The SHSL Shadow Alchemy Stand Using Lab Member
Oh no, how could you say that? I was so looking forward to Max LITERALLY eating shit.
Read you loud and clear.
Latios
The only Black Latios
... Sorry if I'm bot the best when it comes to picking up on sarcasm in texts. Sarcasm is usually identified on the tone of ones voice when the say something, but there's no true tone in a text.
Assailant
The SHSL Shadow Alchemy Stand Using Lab Member
Are you asking if I'm being sarcastic in that last post, or the one you first responded to? That last post was sarcastic. Of COURSE I'm not having Max do that, obviously. I'm just saying that it would make sense given the real world reference.
Latios
The only Black Latios
I'm referring that I didn't pick up on the sarcasm in the first post. I got it in your last one.
Assailant
The SHSL Shadow Alchemy Stand Using Lab Member
It wasn't sarcasm, I was just stating a fact that, if I was being accurate, that would be the case
Latios
The only Black Latios
... Well, either way, I do miss a lot of the sarcasm that flies by here.
Assailant
The SHSL Shadow Alchemy Stand Using Lab Member
Does a lot of sarcasm come by here?
Latios
The only Black Latios
Yes. Don't you already know this. There's plenty of times that I miss your sarcasm
Latios
The only Black Latios
How come Genesis has no idea what eating is. He should have seen enough from it from his trainer and he's not entirely the robot you think he is. His a modified fossile Pokemon, meaning he would have the basic instinct of eating to survive but because of the modifications the need to eat is no more.
Emperor Of Embers
The Red Kaiser of Flame
I know he is a modified fossil, but the Genesect is more mechanical than organic in appearance, and besides, how would a pokemon with no moving jaws eat something (which can happen in Pokemon Amie/ Refesh in the games, and still confuse the hell out of me to this day.) and besides, I always thought he was all machine, in my defense. But hey, I only play the games, and some of the stuff is left to the imagination.
Latios
The only Black Latios
I think the dex entry talks about the fossil thing.
Assailant
The SHSL Shadow Alchemy Stand Using Lab Member
Genesect's Pokedex Entry: "Over 300 million years ago, it was feared as the strongest of hunters. It has been modified by Team Plasma."
"Strongest of hunters"
RIP
"Strongest of hunters"
RIP
