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Either that or nothing at all. As you say, tens of thousands of powerarmor that is small and easier to manouver. OP. Unbleivably op.
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Pat
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The LAPD SWAT teams were wearing these. You're telling me they went around with just the helmets?
Tens or hundreds. Depending on how many LAPD SWAT there were. As well as Desert Rangers.
General Deth Glitch
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Where does it say LAPD SWAT used them?
"HERMES Armor never moved out of the prototype phase because members of the American shadow government, the Enclave, tried to keep its development secret."
Pat
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General Deth Glitch
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Your Answer. No.
"A "7" is painted on the left side of the helmet. The front of the armor features a neck piece with "08" on it. A star and bear can be seen on the left shoulder pad, which is affiliated with the New California Republic flag. There is also what appears to be tallies on the side of the helmet, near the "[7]". "H3RM35" can be seen on the antenna, a reference to Hermes, an armor development project from the canceled game Van Buren."
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General Deth Glitch
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The Reason is has numbers is likely based on some 'issueing number' lies but due to restrictions in time/engine. They could not have hundreds of different textures (Or were too lazy) and so settled on one which referenced the project.
Pat
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They put a lot of references to Van Buren. All intentionally.
Pat
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Besides, even if there were different issue numbers there would still be HERMES on the helmet.
General Deth Glitch
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I'm sure. But if they had the time or ability they would probably have had either more references in the issuing numbers or had it be a little more hidden among a few others numbers. My point is, whether they only had one number for a reason or by design, it is that. Merely a reference number of some description. If it were real you would imagine where would be other numbers each one either referencing its issue or production purpose.
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Its not HERMES, its H3RM35. Project HERMES is Projects HERMES, not Project H3RM35 and the numbers while almost certainly a reference are intended to be nothing more then a reference. Certainly not an indicator that the armors are Hermes Armor.
Pat
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So canonically, I would have as many as there were members of LAPD SWAT. And as many as there were members of the Desert Rangers, which used one of the military versions of the armor passed down from former Marines. The other version is in the Divide, but due to an agreement between me and Gade I won't ever get that.
General Deth Glitch
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As many what? If your still on About HERMES, your having non. Even Canonically I don't think NCR is meant to have any, possibly one or two prototypes taken from the Enclave or something but certainly non for use in combat or as anything other then Museum pieces.
Pat
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I can't even.
So there's these SWAT armors. That definitely reference HERMES. You dispute that solely because Obsidian decided to make the lettering different. The team at Obsidian and Black Isle recycled a lot of ideas for Fallout New Vegas. The Legion actually was supposed to be a faction in Van Buren. So many things you see in Fallout New Vegas were recycled from Van Buren. So when they put this lettering on LAPD SWAT armors, knowing full well what they're referencing, and knowing the lore behind this riot armor, the only reasonable conclusion could be what I'm saying.
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"I can't even"
Really think you look too deeply into this shit. I feel its quite obvious given the fact that the two connecting bits of information say both that it is a reference, as I have been, and that Hermes was NEVER PRODUCED.
General Deth Glitch
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If they meant for it to be the same armor the reference would be just a little less vague, even if it was on a disk or something rather then just ONE WORD ON A HELMET. There would be more then that. Its nothing but a nod to Van Buren.
Pat
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All of New Vegas is practically a nod to Van Buren.
It was produced in prototypical numbers according to Van Buren. While that isn't canon, Fallout New Vegas is, and it's produced in the thousands if the Hermes reference is legit, or at least enough to equip an Armored Cavalry Regiment, part or most of the Marines, and the LAPD SWAT, which it probably is given almost everything else from Van Buren they reference is. I should go ask someone to email Tom Sawyer about this shit.
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Its exceedingly unlikely to be Hermes Armor. And if it is 'Hermes' Armour the reference to the armor ends with the name and it is just a slightly improved combat armor, IF that. Which to be honest I still think is a little pointless because it wont make a difference for our purposes. So while you could argue its 'Hermes' armor, the armor produced by Poseidon and stuff, its not Light Power Armor for elite infantry.
My point being. No matter which way you look at it, it CANNOT be the armor from Van Buren. It just doesn't fit the same criteria.
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Pat
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Exceedingly? According to the stats it's markedly better than combat armor. And that only improves the more militant its model's purpose. It's described as such in Van Buren and Lonesome Road. It's supposed to be the next big thing since power armor.
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Pat
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Ok, look at this. It's equivalent to T-45d power armor.
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Desert_Ranger_combat_armor
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Desert_Ranger_combat_armor
Pat
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Please don't quit RPN.
Pat
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I love you. :ClosedEyesCrying:
Pat
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There is only a two DT difference between NCR Ranger combat armor and Desert Ranger combat armor. The NCR has both, given the terms of the Ranger Unification Treaty. Though obviously lower tens of units of both have been lost in the Mojave.
http://fallout.gamepedia.com/Ranger_Unification_Treaty
http://fallout.gamepedia.com/Ranger_Unification_Treaty
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Heres a secret. Sometimes game design is more important then lore.
Also I would imagine they wanted both to be amazing armour but were reaching the limit of, pointlessly op.
But I think its just that Power Armor was entirely Redone in FO4 and so while it may be 'powerless' pre-FO4 PA its certainly nothing like new PA. Probably more like Modern combat protection, Kevlar wrapped Ceramic plate. Good, but not the level of FO4 Power armor.