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Does it say whether it was structural or for body armor first because I am curious

The formula. I'm assuming it was used for structures first. As that's what's it's useful for.


The chart is actually for structural steels now that I'm looking into it.
 
I would assume it wasn't invented in this timeline simply because if it was it would've been used and the T-51b power armor wouldn't be known as the pinnacle of power armor development before the Great War struck.
 
I would assume it wasn't invented in this timeline simply because if it was it would've been used and the T-51b power armor wouldn't be known as the pinnacle of power armor development before the Great War struck.



Poly-Laminate Composite material wasn't specifically officially patented until 1997 and the only other reference of it was 1960s aircraft material.


I personally don't think its safe to say that anything post 1945 that wasn't explicitly present in the Fallout universe was necessarily not-invented. I remember watching a youtube summary of the whole thing that said everything went on as per-usual in terms of technological and cultural development until the 1960s when everything came to a sudden stop (hence the 1960s atmosphere to everything). 
 
Poly-Laminate Composite material wasn't specifically officially patented until 1997 and the only other reference of it was 1960s aircraft material.


I personally don't think its safe to say that anything post 1945 that wasn't explicitly present in the Fallout universe was necessarily not-invented. I remember watching a youtube summary of the whole thing that said everything went on as per-usual in terms of technological and cultural development until the 1960s when everything came to a sudden stop (hence the 1960s atmosphere to everything). 

It's the 1950s actually. The official timeline break was 1945.
 
Poly-Laminate Composite material wasn't specifically officially patented until 1997 and the only other reference of it was 1960s aircraft material.


I personally don't think its safe to say that anything post 1945 that wasn't explicitly present in the Fallout universe was necessarily not-invented. I remember watching a youtube summary of the whole thing that said everything went on as per-usual in terms of technological and cultural development until the 1960s when everything came to a sudden stop (hence the 1960s atmosphere to everything). 

Like you can dig this up again, but if Fallout was like a futuristic 60s rather than a futuristic 50s then there would've been a lot more hippies, drug usage, rock and roll, and society would be a lot less conservative.


Were some technologies perfected or invented that weren't in the real 1940s-1950s? Absolutely. But, aside from the advances in the really amazing technology, the overall society hasn't changed enough to really warrant a technological leap other than the robots, portable nuclear reactors, and other amazing science fiction made science fact.


So that's one of the two reasons I don't think that formula would've been developed. The other one is that if it was, and it was exponentially better than what the military was currently using for their power armor, they obviously would've put two and two together and gotten four.
 
Admittedly there are some 60s references in Fallout New Vegas, for some reason Elvis was a thing in this universe, but I'm assuming that's only because Obsidian creamed their pants at the idea of having a faction cooler than the Tunnel Snakes gang.
 
Heres a secret. Sometimes game design is more important then lore. 


Also I would imagine they wanted both to be amazing armour but were reaching the limit of, pointlessly op.


But I think its just that Power Armor was entirely Redone in FO4 and so while it may be 'powerless' pre-FO4 PA its certainly nothing like new PA. Probably more like Modern combat protection, Kevlar wrapped Ceramic plate. Good, but not the level of FO4 Power armor.

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And actually, in Fallout 1 and 2 you could literally wipe out entire settlements without suffering any damage whatsoever. Even if they repeatedly hit you. SO HA. Fallout 3 and New Vegas power armor was weak sauce, yes, but Fallout 4 power armor has NOTHING on Fallout 1 and Fallout 2 power armor.
 
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And actually, in Fallout 1 and 2 you could literally wipe out entire settlements without suffering any damage whatsoever. Even if they repeatedly hit you. SO HA. Fallout 3 and New Vegas power armor was weak sauce, yes, but Fallout 4 power armor has NOTHING on Fallout 1 and Fallout 2 power armor.

I wasn't even slightly talking about FO1&2.
 
I meant FO3 and NV

But still. The guys that made Fallout 1 and Fallout 2 were mostly the guys that were working on Van Buren, what would've been Fallout 3 had Interplay, Black Isle, Obsidian, y'know, those guys, finished it. Presumably power armor would've been just as badass as it was in previous incarnations. So in that, it has the Hermes reference. Ok. Stay with me here.


The HERMES thing is basically on the helmets in New Vegas with numbers substituted for certain letters. It says on the HERMES page that it's supposed to be equal to power armor. The DT of the NCR Ranger combat armor is two less than T-45d power armor. Which is pretty close, not quite there, but it's supposed to be a LAPD SWAT uniform, so it wouldn't really need to equal power armor/it could've been an earlier model. Then we have the USMC Desert Ranger combat armor, that is basically statistically equal to T-45d power armor.
 
Like it looks like advanced combat armor, and it is, the most advanced combat armor available. Then the HERMES combat armor is also the most advanced combat armor, though only produced in limited numbers.


HERMES combat armor is supposed to be equal to that of power armor.


Desert Ranger combat armor is to T-45d power armor. The NCR Ranger combat armor isn't, but a two point difference in damage absorption isn't that large to say it couldn't possibly be a police model or a prototype manufactured specifically for the LAPD SWAT.


Then there's the HERMES reference that links them even further than that. 
 

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