Natevess
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How much did you pay for it?
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Retail price is about $1,000, I got it for a student discount of $499.Natevess said:How much did you pay for it?
You're welcome. You interested in writing orchestral music?Natevess said:Holy shit. Thanks for the information
Lol.Natevess said:I've recently been learning to play music, and I'm somewhat interested in learning to write it.
Even if it is on sale, I'm broke as a joke at the moment.
Not a problem.Natevess said:Alright, thanks for the offer.
It's all right Sophileon. If you can get the rest of your post up then that'll be awesome. If you need me to carry it a bit, then pop online for a minute to let me know and I'll finish Tiw's involvement so we can push forward.Sophileon said:I give a sincere and heart-felt apology for my lack of activity. I feel super bad for not getting in touch sooner.
I really want to try and get a post out tonight, but I have work till midnight EST. If I do not get a post out by tomorrow, Kyero, will you post for me so the RP is not held back further?
Again, I apologize for holding the RP back. I hate when this happens, and this RP is too awesome to stall any longer.
Well, I got part of my post up for now. Hopefully I will get to the rest of it later tonight.
I am majoring in Music with a focus on Recording Arts. Composition is another passion of mine, but I'm still an amateur. I'm hoping that my upcoming composition class at CSU Chico will help with that. I know all my Theory and I know how to play piano and guitar, but when it comes to composition I overthink EVERYTHING!!! My issue right now as a would-be composer is learning to relax and let the music flow. I always catch myself thinking "okay, so how to use counterpoint here" or "what kind of melody should go above this particular drone or chord progression?" Valid questions, but they defeat the purpose of a piece like this one especially since I'm trying to do this by feel and mental visualization of an epic battle.Trignome said:@Kyero
After listening to both links, I have to say that I'm impressed with the intricacy of the piece, especially with how you used the 'sharper' percussion instruments as accents to longer tones from the strings and brass. It effectively prevents the music from taking on a mellow, droning quality. (Something that happens quite often with the use of orchestral instruments, unfortunately. ) I'm really looking forward to hearing the full piece.
Excuse the brief commentary.
Besides my summer classes, I've been scrambling like mad to practice because my lessons resume this week.
So at the moment, I am very much done with music.
I have, however, bookmarked your post and will definitely listen to the excerpt in greater detail. I can tell a serious amount of effort went into this composition, so it only seems fair that I match the quality with my thoughts on the matter, especially since I really enjoyed this piece.
Just a quick question, because now I am curious: Are you majoring/minoring in music?
Here's hoping.Trignome said:Yes. I have definitely experienced that frustration with composing music. (It's so much easier to play expressively than compose expressively, in my opinion.)
I think, possibly the issue is that while striving to compose a song through sense alone, there's also a necessity of understanding how an instrument or technique can create the effect desired, which forces a lot of composers to pigeon-hole themselves, trying variation upon variation upon variation until they find the exact, technical effect they want. But then overall, the piece feels un-moving and almost flat because by composing a piece through small, exacting increments, there is no sensation to the song as a whole. Everything ends up connecting only on a technical stand point and the tone either has no dynamic progression, or just does not progress at all.
I think it's especially challenging with a full orchestral piece like yours, with brass, strings, percussion, and a choir. Because in things like duets, solos with accompaniment, and ensemble exclusive pieces like jazz band or string quartets, there is usually a distinct instrument/instrumental section carrying the bulk of the piece's melody, or otherwise a motif that's easily passed through the various instruments due to similarities in sound. (Like how orchestral instruments share the same mechanics/structure of the violin.) In your case, it's not so much the prevalence of a theme, so much as a compositional balance and interactions between the instrumental sections that really drives the piece.
I speak like I have confidence in such topics, but I'm really as clueless as anyone about how to solve such problems. orz
It's like, even knowing that I've dug myself into a hole with a piece I've worked on, it's hard to actually fix it because I sort of finalize each measure of music as I go along. So changing a section means I have to adjust the measure before that, and the measure before that, and the measure before that...It's especially nightmarish trying to find that magical, perfect sense of finality at the end of a piece, and then realizing that the end and introduction do not tie together at all. I know a lot of composers write a specific part or motif, then build upon it, rather than trying to piece everything together all at once. But I've never really gotten into that method myself. I probably should, it sounds far more efficient...though I worry that if I don't vary a theme enough, the song sounds repetitive. And if I vary the theme too much, it's like I suddenly started writing a new song in the middle of a song.
I most definitely sympathize with your plight.
But I'm sure, with your musical experience and with the additional classes, you'll find a compositional method that works well for you.