Fandom Odyssey of Power

[D. Rex]

1. Pointers are always handy. Once I finish the CS, I would like to request some, and the training session. However, going into the training session, would it be as an against equals kind of thing or a learning session where Era is more skilled than her companions? As Era and Fae are in the roughly normal range. Which one it is would determine how I would approach it.


2. Regarding power levels. Could you offer clarification on which sort of victories and defeats actually give those benefits? It is self explanatory for the most part. But I would like to explore it deeper. Staring with scenario 3, victory against a weaker foe. Does this include ANY opponent that is defeated, such as random grunts or local milita on raids that are pretty insignificant in power to put up any fight against the character? Or does it refer to an actual fight worthy of being played out in length? As for the other scenarios, when you mention victory and defeat, are you referring to namely the 'giving everything you got to win' and 'massively beaten down into grease stain on the ground', or would training fights, such as what was suggested between Era and Fae, be included in the victory and defeat scenario or as simply under training?


3. That was my Grape Ape joke. I'm going with green.

 

[Kyero]

1. Pointers are always handy. Once I finish the CS, I would like to request some, and the training session. However, going into the training session, would it be as an against equals kind of thing or a learning session where Era is more skilled than her companions? As Era and Fae are in the roughly normal range. Which one it is would determine how I would approach it.
2. Regarding power levels. Could you offer clarification on which sort of victories and defeats actually give those benefits? It is self explanatory for the most part. But I would like to explore it deeper. Staring with scenario 3, victory against a weaker foe. Does this include ANY opponent that is defeated, such as random grunts or local milita on raids that are pretty insignificant in power to put up any fight against the character? Or does it refer to an actual fight worthy of being played out in length? As for the other scenarios, when you mention victory and defeat, are you referring to namely the 'giving everything you got to win' and 'massively beaten down into grease stain on the ground', or would training fights, such as what was suggested between Era and Fae, be included in the victory and defeat scenario or as simply under training?


3. That was my Grape Ape joke. I'm going with green.

1) Since they are roughly equal in power it would be more of a knowledge giving session rather than a true test of skill or power.


2) Victory against a named NPC enemy who is weaker than you but still manages to give you a decent run for your money would be point number 3. I'll provide more insight to each of them tomorrow when I have the time after school. But all enemies in these categories have to be relevant to the plot rather than just any old enemy. Otherwise you could theoretically abuse it to infinitely power yourself up and that's a no-no.


In regards to victory and defeat, I mean true victory and defeat. Training is training, and will provide training bonuses rather than victory/defeat bonuses unless our characters go at it with the intention of someone losing in an all out battle to the finish line (of course preventing death, but you get the idea).

 

[D. Rex]

Lovely. I have gained quite bit of understanding, and I ran out of questions for time being. Thank you. It leaves me quite eager to see the training session and I can't wait for the RP to get started.

 

[Kyero]

Lovely. I have gained quite bit of understanding, and I ran out of questions for time being. Thank you. It leaves me quite eager to see the training session and I can't wait for the RP to get started.

I too am eager to see it begin and how it will progress.

 

[Kyero]

Anyway! Back to the matter at hand!


Foundation for Faeora!


As an ectomorph, her body will naturally have a problem building up muscle size and definition. The reason for this is because of their fast metabolism compared to the other body types, so much so that they often have to eat an extra meal before bed to ensure their muscles don't catabolize during their sleep.


For those who don't know what catabolism is, it's the body's process of breaking dow muscle to release energy when fat reserves are too low or non existent.


Ectomorphs, with their naturally slender bodies and fast metabolism often appear to be delicate, but when they train properly they are anything but delicate. An ectomorph is best served training in short, but intense bursts of 30-45 minutes, focusing as much as possible on the larger muscle groups and eating a decent meal both an hour before and after the workout to ensure proper muscle breakdown and reconstruction due to their metabolism.


I feel that Faeora deserves to know at least this much about herself going in.


When it comes to techniques, Faeora's slender body comes in handy against larger and more bulky opponents. In fact that's where she will shine the most. If her power is anywhere in the roughly "equal" range, ideally within 5-10% of that of her opponent in either direction (be it positive or negative), she will have a field day. Her smaller body proportions and more slender limbs require less energy to move than someone of a larger body size or those with any significant difference in muscle mass. Against opponents with bodies with size and muscle like that of Broly, Faeora will be nigh untouchable so long as her power level is high enough.


Faeora's strength in her size is also her weakness, as her body naturally sacrifices muscular stability for agility. In fact, presuming that everyone is an ectomorph (as one person has not yet decided), Era will be the "toughest" in the group as she is a mesomorph. Faeora's slender frame doesn't provide much to any natural defense against heavy hitting attacks. As is the case in the above paragraph, her weakness is most easily seen in conflict with those of a power roughly equal to her own. Anyone with greater muscle mass who manages to get passed her agility and land a solid blow to just about any point on her body is going to do more damage than if they used the same move on Era.


When it comes to techniques, due to her small size power is not a priority. Her style is listed as "Hard," which is a unique deviation from what her body would normally focus on. However, I believe that is a good thing. Breaking the norm and training in a method that her body is not naturally meant to handle gives both her and thesmashbro's character Ginge a unique methodology of combat. Going against their body's natural shape to use harder attacks meant to cause damage will not serve them well with lower level power levels, giving them plenty to think about when in combat with stronger foes. But against those with equal power, it will provide even more interesting effects, at least one of which will become apparent when Faeora trains with Era.


So that's a foundation which I will leave you to contemplate and work on for yourself for now. When she trains with Era, she'll learn a bit more, enough to make the first major battle bearable given the power level difference we will be experiencing.

 

[D. Rex]

Anyway! Back to the matter at hand!
Foundation for Faeora!


As an ectomorph, her body will naturally have a problem building up muscle size and definition. The reason for this is because of their fast metabolism compared to the other body types, so much so that they often have to eat an extra meal before bed to ensure their muscles don't catabolize during their sleep.


For those who don't know what catabolism is, it's the body's process of breaking dow muscle to release energy when fat reserves are too low or non existent.


Ectomorphs, with their naturally slender bodies and fast metabolism often appear to be delicate, but when they train properly they are anything but delicate. An ectomorph is best served training in short, but intense bursts of 30-45 minutes, focusing as much as possible on the larger muscle groups and eating a decent meal both an hour before and after the workout to ensure proper muscle breakdown and reconstruction due to their metabolism.


I feel that Faeora deserves to know at least this much about herself going in.


When it comes to techniques, Faeora's slender body comes in handy against larger and more bulky opponents. In fact that's where she will shine the most. If her power is anywhere in the roughly "equal" range, ideally within 5-10% of that of her opponent in either direction (be it positive or negative), she will have a field day. Her smaller body proportions and more slender limbs require less energy to move than someone of a larger body size or those with any significant difference in muscle mass. Against opponents with bodies with size and muscle like that of Broly, Faeora will be nigh untouchable so long as her power level is high enough.


Faeora's strength in her size is also her weakness, as her body naturally sacrifices muscular stability for agility. In fact, presuming that everyone is an ectomorph (as one person has not yet decided), Era will be the "toughest" in the group as she is a mesomorph. Faeora's slender frame doesn't provide much to any natural defense against heavy hitting attacks. As is the case in the above paragraph, her weakness is most easily seen in conflict with those of a power roughly equal to her own. Anyone with greater muscle mass who manages to get passed her agility and land a solid blow to just about any point on her body is going to do more damage than if they used the same move on Era.


When it comes to techniques, due to her small size power is not a priority. Her style is listed as "Hard," which is a unique deviation from what her body would normally focus on. However, I believe that is a good thing. Breaking the norm and training in a method that her body is not naturally meant to handle gives both her and thesmashbro's character Ginge a unique methodology of combat. Going against their body's natural shape to use harder attacks meant to cause damage will not serve them well with lower level power levels, giving them plenty to think about when in combat with stronger foes. But against those with equal power, it will provide even more interesting effects, at least one of which will become apparent when Faeora trains with Era.


So that's a foundation which I will leave you to contemplate and work on for yourself for now. When she trains with Era, she'll learn a bit more, enough to make the first major battle bearable given the power level difference we will be experiencing.

All of that is very valuable advice, and I shall certainly keep it in mind for use. All of it I can and will use in her development. Very helpful.


Lol I did notice the similarities between Ginge and Fae. I considered (only considered, mind you) switching Fae to an endomorph or meso-endomorph(or some variant of something) to mix things up a little. I do not see either of those types very often.


Anyhow, regardless of that, an idea occurred to me regarding the styles of the characters. I would like to make a suggestion about going more in depth as to how we intend to have our characters fight, and how the use of abilities such as Ki Anchor, Gradient, and Enforce set them apart from other fighters and how it affects their style. As well, to explain a little towards other things that may cover or create weakness. For example, I have intended on Fae having used increased hard body training and would detail how that plays in with her Ki Anchor. This might give you more to work with when it comes to teaching and foresight, as well as correcting potential mistakes before they arise IC.

 

[Kyero]

All of that is very valuable advice, and I shall certainly keep it in mind for use. All of it I can and will use in her development. Very helpful.
Lol I did notice the similarities between Ginge and Fae. I considered (only considered, mind you) switching Fae to an endomorph or meso-endomorph(or some variant of something) to mix things up a little. I do not see either of those types very often.


Anyhow, regardless of that, an idea occurred to me regarding the styles of the characters. I would like to make a suggestion about going more in depth as to how we intend to have our characters fight, and how the use of abilities such as Ki Anchor, Gradient, and Enforce set them apart from other fighters and how it affects their style. As well, to explain a little towards other things that may cover or create weakness. For example, I have intended on Fae having used increased hard body training and would detail how that plays in with her Ki Anchor. This might give you more to work with when it comes to teaching and foresight, as well as correcting potential mistakes before they arise IC.

Very true.


Then I will add a new section to the profile requirement, a "Training History" section.


It is exactly what it sounds like in that it's a mini biography. Everything about how your character trained from the first kinds of techniques they learned to how they began to sculpt their own methodology of training and growing stronger.


If you feel that a further explanation is in order, then feel free to describe it for everyone here in the OOC thread.


 
Going with King's idea, I am following my own advice now and creating a list of the areas of combat where Era is both at her best, and at her worst so that everyone knows what to expect of her going in to avoid confusion or potential dissatisfaction with how she is portrayed.


Combat Strengths

• Knowledge - Era is incredibly knowledgable about the body. She is the Saiyan equivalent of a non-certified physiologist, in that she actively (though privately) studies the body from head to toe to discover the practicalities of how it works in various forms, shapes, and sizes.
  
• Nervous System - Era discovered the effects of the nervous system at a young age and now knows it like the back of her hand. When she looks at you, she can instantly see the mental image of your nervous system and use it against you in combat.
  

Combat Weaknesses

• Knowledge - What is arguably her greatest strength is also her greatest weakness. Her mind knows what to do, but her body sometimes has trouble keeping up which causes her to make mistakes and rush (or not act fast enough) in her attempts to accomplish whatever action/counter measure her mind is set on.
  
• Lack of field experience - Era has only been on a few raid missions over the years. Despite her sense of foundation and inner peace and confidence on the training floor, Era's field experience is lacking severely making her one of the brightest, but less proactive or effective field operatives. Typically, she is more relied upon to observe the enemy, point out their weaknesses wherever she can see them, and let the stronger members of her group do the bulk of the fighting.
  

 

[D. Rex]

Very true.
Then I will add a new section to the profile requirement, a "Training History" section.


It is exactly what it sounds like in that it's a mini biography. Everything about how your character trained from the first kinds of techniques they learned to how they began to sculpt their own methodology of training and growing stronger.


If you feel that a further explanation is in order, then feel free to describe it for everyone here in the OOC thread.


 
Going with King's idea, I am following my own advice now and creating a list of the areas of combat where Era is both at her best, and at her worst so that everyone knows what to expect of her going in to avoid confusion or potential dissatisfaction with how she is portrayed.


Combat Strengths

• Knowledge - Era is incredibly knowledgable about the body. She is the Saiyan equivalent of a non-certified physiologist, in that she actively (though privately) studies the body from head to toe to discover the practicalities of how it works in various forms, shapes, and sizes.
  
• Nervous System - Era discovered the effects of the nervous system at a young age and now knows it like the back of her hand. When she looks at you, she can instantly see the mental image of your nervous system and use it against you in combat.
  

Combat Weaknesses

• Knowledge - What is arguably her greatest strength is also her greatest weakness. Her mind knows what to do, but her body sometimes has trouble keeping up which causes her to make mistakes and rush (or not act fast enough) in her attempts to accomplish whatever action/counter measure her mind is set on.
  
• Lack of field experience - Era has only been on a few raid missions over the years. Despite her sense of foundation and inner peace and confidence on the training floor, Era's field experience is lacking severely making her one of the brightest, but less proactive or effective field operatives. Typically, she is more relied upon to observe the enemy, point out their weaknesses wherever she can see them, and let the stronger members of her group do the bulk of the fighting.
  

The Combat Strengths/Weaknesses . Is that something that should be in the CS thread with the addition of training history?

 

[Kyero]

The Combat Strengths/Weaknesses . Is that something that should be in the CS thread with the addition of training history?

If you'd like, but not everyone is going to look at your profile so it's best to add it here as well just in case.

 

[D. Rex]

Ok. I think I will put it in the CS too, if that is okay. As the OOC pages go on, not everyone will go back and read it. Less likely than they would look at a profile.


I like keeping my profile filled, anyway. That way I can point to it and say "I didn't make it up, it's been there." if the situation ever arises. A shame that profiles aren't given much attention. A lot of work and creativity goes into them. And they give a lot of good insight about characters and how they could react to yours.


 
Lol alright. I tried to work some more on Fae's description and training history, as well as try to write the strengths and weaknesses. xD But my brain ran into a wall. I will try again later tonight, hopefully I can get some inspiration to help me put my thoughts onto the page(computer screen).


And btw, how many people do we need to start the RP?

 

[Kyero]

Ok. I think I will put it in the CS too, if that is okay. As the OOC pages go on, not everyone will go back and read it. Less likely than they would look at a profile.
I like keeping my profile filled, anyway. That way I can point to it and say "I didn't make it up, it's been there." if the situation ever arises. A shame that profiles aren't given much attention. A lot of work and creativity goes into them. And they give a lot of good insight about characters and how they could react to yours.


 
Lol alright. I tried to work some more on Fae's description and training history, as well as try to write the strengths and weaknesses. xD But my brain ran into a wall. I will try again later tonight, hopefully I can get some inspiration to help me put my thoughts onto the page(computer screen).


And btw, how many people do we need to start the RP?

We only need a small handful. Things like this where IC competition for power and social standing are best kept small scale in my experience.

 

[D. Rex]

We only need a small handful. Things like this where IC competition for power and social standing are best kept small scale in my experience.

Understandable. I can see how that will keep things under control.


Btw, I have been meaning to ask, where does our characters come from? Seknm? Or any random saiyan inhabited planet that is convenient for the characters history?


 
In Era's sheet, you mention that unlike many of her kind, she wasn't born on Metahn. But you also mention elsewhere, in the settings tab, that Metahn was destroyed centuries ago. When it got destroyed, did the Saiyans claim a planet as Metahn II or something?

 

[Kyero]

Understandable. I can see how that will keep things under control.
Btw, I have been meaning to ask, where does our characters come from? Seknm? Or any random saiyan inhabited planet that is convenient for the characters history?


 
In Era's sheet, you mention that unlike many of her kind, she wasn't born on Metahn. But you also mention elsewhere, in the settings tab, that Metahn was destroyed centuries ago. When it got destroyed, did the Saiyans claim a planet as Metahn II or something?

The planet they settled became the new Metahn to them. Sorry for not clarifying.


I added the point to the "Lore" page, so hopefully it clears things up.

 

[D. Rex]

No worries. Though now.it.brings me into the questions of saiyan society and what the planet is like. Are the saiyans ruled by a king as they were in the anime?

 

[Kyero]

No worries. Though now.it.brings me into the questions of saiyan society and what the planet is like. Are the saiyans ruled by a king as they were in the anime?

Kind of.


The Saiyans in this RP operate on what you might call a Power-Driven Aristocracy. The strongest and most intelligent warriors (slightly more emphasis on "strongest") across the 17 worlds currently under the control of the Saiyans take positions of authority, and if there seems to be a tie in Power Level, the strongest must battle in tournament fashion until only one remains to take the mantle of Ruler.


There is no true "King," just a Ruler. Their titles are "Ruler of *insert planet name here*". Anyone and everyone below them is a subject, and according to their own preference and familiarity with those most immediately beneath them in power level and such, they appoint their own advisors, body guards, etc.

 

[D. Rex]

Kind of.
The Saiyans in this RP operate on what you might call a Power-Driven Aristocracy. The strongest and most intelligent warriors (slightly more emphasis on "strongest") across the 17 worlds currently under the control of the Saiyans take positions of authority, and if there seems to be a tie in Power Level, the strongest must battle in tournament fashion until only one remains to take the mantle of Ruler.


There is no true "King," just a Ruler. Their titles are "Ruler of *insert planet name here*". Anyone and everyone below them is a subject, and according to their own preference and familiarity with those most immediately beneath them in power level and such, they appoint their own advisors, body guards, etc.

Absolutely awesome.


I also might be able to use this concept with Faerari family, if you would allow it. It could help emphasize power=status and depth to the Saiyan society and how status can come into play. Such as Faeora, who would lack status because she lacks power, and thus is bringing her family down in terms of collective status, as well it gives her a more reasonable drive to become stronger.

 

[Kyero]

Absolutely awesome.
I also might be able to use this concept with Faerari family, if you would allow it. It could help emphasize power=status and depth to the Saiyan society and how status can come into play. Such as Faeora, who would lack status because she lacks power, and thus is bringing her family down in terms of collective status, as well it gives her a more reasonable drive to become stronger.

I have no issues with that.

 

[D. Rex]

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I have no issues with that.

Sweet deal. That leaves me with a few paths i could take on it. The Faerari patron is King of planet Inserthere. To help flesh out the social field and planets. Or the family are esteemed Warlords of such a king. However i do not want it to seem like I am trying to be a big shot. My goal is to create contrast between what she is and what she should be and is expected of her. To make her seem even less.


On another note, Sophileon has been sniffing around and has caught the signature scent of DBZ. He is interested in looking into joining us.


 
Also, it may not be a SS transformation, but as all the Saiyans have their tails, the Great Ape transformation will likely come into play. Can you explain how you want it, and sort of change to power level it might have? And the effects you intend for Moons have on sayains


Also also, the saiyan tail. Canon it is sensitive and can weaken the saiyan but can be trained not to. The question here is, is there a loss in power if the tail is cut off? And would it bar a saiyan from going SS4?

 

[Kyero]

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Sweet deal. That leaves me with a few paths i could take on it. The Faerari patron is King of planet Inserthere. To help flesh out the social field and planets. Or the family are esteemed Warlords of such a king. However i do not want it to seem like I am trying to be a big shot. My goal is to create contrast between what she is and what she should be and is expected of her. To make her seem even less.


On another note, Sophileon has been sniffing around and has caught the signature scent of DBZ. He is interested in looking into joining us.


 
Also, it may not be a SS transformation, but as all the Saiyans have their tails, the Great Ape transformation will likely come into play. Can you explain how you want it, and sort of change to power level it might have? And the effects you intend for Moons have on sayains


Also also, the saiyan tail. Canon it is sensitive and can weaken the saiyan but can be trained not to. The question here is, is there a loss in power if the tail is cut off? And would it bar a saiyan from going SS4?

At the moment, the descriptions and basic process of how to become the various Super Saiyan levels is in the Mechanics page. However, I will be reinventing the requirements to reach each new SS level, to further separate this RP from the original material.


When it comes to the Great Ape form, it too will receive a bit of a change from the original, and that should be up soon.


In this RP it is not sensitive and doesn't weaken a Saiyan if it's grabbed, squeezed, or what have you. If it is removed, however, then yes, there is a sacrifice and that will be detailed later as well. Losing your tail, if you have not yet reached SS4, will bar you from transforming into the state. But if you have reached SS4 and your tail is removed, then you can still reach the form once the full moon returns and doing so will restore your tail.

 

[D. Rex]

At the moment, the descriptions and basic process of how to become the various Super Saiyan levels is in the Mechanics page. However, I will be reinventing the requirements to reach each new SS level, to further separate this RP from the original material.
When it comes to the Great Ape form, it too will receive a bit of a change from the original, and that should be up soon.


In this RP it is not sensitive and doesn't weaken a Saiyan if it's grabbed, squeezed, or what have you. If it is removed, however, then yes, there is a sacrifice and that will be detailed later as well. Losing your tail, if you have not yet reached SS4, will bar you from transforming into the state. But if you have reached SS4 and your tail is removed, then you can still reach the form once the full moon returns and doing so will restore your tail.

Alrighty. What about regarding the King/warlord detail? Either you would prefer? Does it matter? Liberty to use own judgement?


 
Looking forward to seeing the requirements.


In the meantime a simple question. Will the namesake of the series, the Dragonballs, be a part of this RP. I suspect not, but it cant hurt to ask.

 

[andujarprime]

Wow sorry I've been gone. Too much work and no play will try to set up my CS this weekend. Not trynna bail out. This will be challenging and hopefully as rewarding as it sounds

 

[Kyero]

Alrighty. What about regarding the King/warlord detail? Either you would prefer? Does it matter? Liberty to use own judgement?
 
Looking forward to seeing the requirements.


In the meantime a simple question. Will the namesake of the series, the Dragonballs, be a part of this RP. I suspect not, but it cant hurt to ask.

Warlord would be preferable to me.


And no, the Dragonballs will not be part of the RP. Another Deus Ex Machina which I can't allow.


 
Okay then!


Great Ape form is up, as well as the new criteria for all Super Saiyan forms (SS4 and the variations excluded as they're fairly easy to understand and don't require anything extra beyond what is already mentioned).


Have fun!

 

[D. Rex]

Warlord it is, then, boss.


Will there be any mechanics involved with powering up and a chars max power?


Is the great ape form a voluntary transformation? As in they dont have to change if they dont want to?

 

[Kyero]

Warlord it is, then, boss.
Will there be any mechanics involved with powering up and a chars max power?


Is the great ape form a voluntary transformation? As in they dont have to change if they dont want to?

There will be a few mechanics involved regarding maximum power level, but I'll have to post those tomorrow.


As for Great Ape, it is voluntary, and only possible on the night of a full moon.


 
I take it back, I added a little something something to the Mechanics Page just a while ago, but now I really have to go offline for a while.


So, just above the table presenting the pros and cons of the beginning power levels is a basic explanation of how max power will work, but again I'll add more tomorrow.


 
I've added a bit on how Signature moves can amplify your power level for the duration of the move (the nature of the move of course plays a role in it).


I will clarify more on this later once I've had the chance to get some sleep.


 
I just added a tiny bit more insight into how attacks can focus and multiply your power level for short times. But mostly it will depend entirely on your power level and experience with controlling your Ki. If you need help, then ask me.

 

[Sophileon]

Good evening, Kyero. It seems I found myself on another one of your RP's. As Hink said earlier, I am enticed by this RP and my love of DBZ. If it behooves you, I will get a skeleton CS up soon.