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Fandom Odyssey of Power

Sophileon said:
Considering this is a DBZ themed role play, why would anyone want to play a race other than a Saiyan?
I'm sure there are plenty other generic fantasy themed role plays out there that someone can sign up as a made up alien race.
Lol, Play nice, Soph.


Other generic fantasy themed games are not DBZ. Unless it is some weird mash up... which could be interesting... hmmm. Yes. Maybe.
 
I'm merely inquiring as to why someone wouldn't want to jump at the opportunity to play such an amazing race as the Saiyans.


I mean, that kind of is the point to DBZ.


And I am playing nice! I didn't use any swear words nor any sort of insulting language!
 
1. Do we not test kyero's limits every chance we get? Just because we are good at it doesn't mean we can deny others the fun.


2. Everyone else is already playing saiyan. So would not inquiry into a different race show intent not simply hop on the bandwagon? Such ideology is generally a good thing. With exceptions.


3. Dragonball is 7/10s shouting, 2/10s kicking ass, and 1/10 looped punching scenes. The point of Dragonball is badassery, regardless of quality.


Because I have known you long enough to know better xD
 
The problem is just that, Sophileon: EVERYONE wants to be a saiyan, and the race has been explore immensely. However, there are plenty of other races in Dragon Ball Z, and I think exploring them would not only provide something interesting to add to the otherwise all-saiyan mix, but also provide an opportunity to introduce unique mechanics, etc. and something other than " Oh yeah, Supersaiyan 72.5!! What sooper kewl power can teh saiyans bring out next?!"
 
1) Of course we do. Healthy debate can open doors and allow for many opportunities to present themselves that might not have been thought about. I expect everyone to challenge and question everything; however, that being said, if one is to question everything then expect opposition.


2) Sometimes the bandwagon isn't really a popularity contest. Sometimes there are certain rules in place to stop excess information being input that would make a huge mess of things and overly complicate something that doesn't need to be more complex than it already is.


3) No argument there, Hink.


And naturally! ;)


Now, @Naruyashan I'm not saying the introduction of a new alien race would be a bad thing, but the heart and integrity of DBZ has always been on the focus of the Saiyans. That being said, that's not entirely the sole reason why a new alien race shouldn't be played and explored in a role-play, but introducing new mechanics for a set alien race is interesting especially when it comes to the Saiyan race.


First of all, one would have to deal with the Saiyan's blood lust and their ability to grow immensely stronger after each battle.


Any fan of the DBZ series can see the fault in this ability to keep an actual story-line going. Throughout the series each character that is a villain has a new ability that can compensate for the Super Saiyan transformation and each of it's successors; however, each time a new power is unlocked or they find the ability to fuse. This gives the alien villain a mega crutch and the Saiyans prevail again. So, to compensate for the battle rage Saiyan's have, a new race would have to have several components and abilities that, eventually, become carbon copies of the Saiyan's abilities.


Ki usage seems pretty well-known throughout the series so that's no big deal, but by your words alone you said your race has the ability to become a god-mod really quickly. If you look at the mechanics page of this RP, you can easily see how quickly our characters will rise in power and could be considered god-modding. Given the depth of information Kyero has put out there, there really is no reason to introduce another playable alien race with it's own sub-set of rules that could potentially complicate an RP that is already quite deep.
 
I personally disagree. While introducing abilities to compensate for the saiyan's own may be necessary, that in no way means that they will be 'carbon copies' of the abilities of the Saiyans. I respect your opinion, of course, but personally feel that you're making the idea more of an issue than it needs to be.


Actually, I said 'If not, there's a character concept I'd like to explore, but I think we should discuss it due to the fact that it's easy to turn into a god-mod.' A character concept. Not a race. And, simply put, I discarded that idea, either way. The character I plan to make is, in fact, human.
 
Sophileon said:
Oh! I like the looks of the upcoming enemies! Talk about exciting stuff.
I do have a few questions, though.


Considering the three special enemies have power levels that surpass all of our characters, when exactly would our characters run into one of the special warriors? Would it be from the beginning of the fight? Like these three are special assassins or something that were sent out to kill our characters specifically? Or would our characters just happen to run into them at some point in the fight?
They'll happen across them. Our characters, even with their power boosts, aren't in any way what you might call an "established presence" or something worth worrying about. At least, they won't think so.


 


Naruyashan said:
I personally disagree. While introducing abilities to compensate for the saiyan's own may be necessary, that in no way means that they will be 'carbon copies' of the abilities of the Saiyans. I respect your opinion, of course, but personally feel that you're making the idea more of an issue than it needs to be.
Actually, I said 'If not, there's a character concept I'd like to explore, but I think we should discuss it due to the fact that it's easy to turn into a god-mod.' A character concept. Not a race. And, simply put, I discarded that idea, either way. The character I plan to make is, in fact, human.
Humans aren't part of this RP, sorry to say. This is an RP strictly about Saiyans. And if you wanted to discuss a character concept, you should have brought it to my attention straight away in a private conversation.


As the GM, I have full and final say over whether such mechanics will be put to use. As much as I respect my fellow role-players in this RP, they don't have the power to okay a concept like that without my approval.


Thank you.
 
Sophileon said:
Great! Then I shall take Ynirm as Tiw's challenger, Kyero.
I think it would be a blast fighting him.
Cool.


Then here's something else to keep in mind: whatever attacks he uses are up to you.


When I introduce enemies in such a nature as listing only names and basic combat statistics, but don't list any signature techniques, that means they're a clean slate and can be molded to your preferences for your upcoming battle. Make sense?
 
Kyero said:
Cool.
Then here's something else to keep in mind: whatever attacks he uses are up to you.


When I introduce enemies in such a nature as listing only names and basic combat statistics, but don't list any signature techniques, that means they're a clean slate and can be molded to your preferences for your upcoming battle. Make sense?
Makes perfect sense to me. I shall start on some of his signature moves ASAP.


Does that also mean I can dictate how often he prefers using Ki blasts and/or physical attacks? Such as which one he relies more on?
 
Sophileon said:
Makes perfect sense to me. I shall start on some of his signature moves ASAP.
Does that also mean I can dictate how often he prefers using Ki blasts and/or physical attacks? Such as which one he relies more on?
You may, but do what you can to stick to how his statistics are laid out.


As he's very middle of the road in every aspect, it means that he won't particularly favor one method of combat over the other such as his brother Xalik would favor smooth precision strikes given his precision and fluidity levels compared to his slightly lower power and agility levels. Make sense? Ynirm is probably the most flexible of the three, meaning he can adjust rapidly to the flow of battle and change his combat methods to suit his needs depending on the strength of his opponent because he's "good" at everything.
 
Will the majority of the major battles in this rp be fought between players? Or self written?

Sophileon said:
Great! Then I shall take Ynirm as Tiw's challenger, Kyero.
I think it would be a blast fighting him.
Good choice! Lol that was whom I was thinking before I decided to bail on it.
 
KingHink said:
Will the majority of the major battles in this rp be fought between players? Or self written?
Good choice! Lol that was whom I was thinking before I decided to bail on it.
Most battles will be self written.


I will detail who the true "major" baddies are, such as Lord Inecros, and I will provide details on minions, minor baddies, and other special and extracurricular enemies along the way whom you will all be free to fight over in the OOC before taking them on IC. How you write for the fight is up to you, but as always I'll be in charge of informing everyone when they show up on the battlefield and why.


Once they do show up on the battlefield, then it's all up to you to take over from there.


I'm providing as much creative freedom with how you deal with these enemies as I can. On the occasion that you want to team up against an enemy with another player, let me know and I'll help you work it out.
 
Kyero said:
Most battles will be self written.
I will detail who the true "major" baddies are, such as Lord Inecros, and I will provide details on minions, minor baddies, and other special and extracurricular enemies along the way whom you will all be free to fight over in the OOC before taking them on IC. How you write for the fight is up to you, but as always I'll be in charge of informing everyone when they show up on the battlefield and why.


Once they do show up on the battlefield, then it's all up to you to take over from there.


I'm providing as much creative freedom with how you deal with these enemies as I can. On the occasion that you want to team up against an enemy with another player, let me know and I'll help you work it out.
My weakness! Lol I always seem biased against myself in such situations. But not unfun.


Lol I understand, boss. So it would be okay to have another rp the baddie to keep a fight spicy?


I could have swore is asked this before... lol I shouldn't be asking questions as soon as I wake up.


About how far will the next battle be? Pretty soon it will their be some time for everyone to associate and do side stuff before the invasion?
 
KingHink said:
My weakness! Lol I always seem biased against myself in such situations. But not unfun.
Lol I understand, boss. So it would be okay to have another rp the baddie to keep a fight spicy?


I could have swore is asked this before... lol I shouldn't be asking questions as soon as I wake up.


About how far will the next battle be? Pretty soon it will their be some time for everyone to associate and do side stuff before the invasion?
The invasion won't take place for another week IC. Era will only just be able to discover how to sense energy and hide her power from the Scouters by the time it starts.


Also by then, just so everyone knows, she will have learned the trick for controlling and getting used to her power. However, she will still only be in control of about 9,400 of it by the time the week is over.
 
Time to get over it Hink lol!


If all we have is a week IC then better get to practicing and training and forging alliances.


Question, Kyero. If we were to have our characters train some more before the eventual battle, would that help in increasing their power further? Or is there a limitation on how often they can train? I'm just trying to have Tiw better understand his power and training seems the most ideal way to help him.
 
Wonderful! Im looking forward to some character interactions.


A possible issue. Fae will continue training... but here we have a math dilemma. By multiplying the growth daily, her power will rise exponentially rather than the sum of the weeks growth. This will lead to higher growth results.
 
Kyero said:
Humans aren't part of this RP, sorry to say. This is an RP strictly about Saiyans. And if you wanted to discuss a character concept, you should have brought it to my attention straight away in a private conversation.


As the GM, I have full and final say over whether such mechanics will be put to use. As much as I respect my fellow role-players in this RP, they don't have the power to okay a concept like that without my approval.


Thank you.
I apologize if I gave the impression that I thought anyone but the GM could approve the concept. Regarding PMing you, I wasn't sure whether or not to, so I just spoke up and said that I had a concept in mind, with the hopes that, assuming non-saiyans were acceptable, we could discuss it further via PM. Sorry about bothering you all.
 
Sophileon said:
Time to get over it Hink lol!
If all we have is a week IC then better get to practicing and training and forging alliances.


Question, Kyero. If we were to have our characters train some more before the eventual battle, would that help in increasing their power further? Or is there a limitation on how often they can train? I'm just trying to have Tiw better understand his power and training seems the most ideal way to help him.
Get over it? Bah! I will totally play it up!


Woo! Great minds think alike :D


 


Naruyashan said:
I apologize if I gave the impression that I thought anyone but the GM could approve the concept. Regarding PMing you, I wasn't sure whether or not to, so I just spoke up and said that I had a concept in mind, with the hopes that, assuming non-saiyans were acceptable, we could discuss it further via PM. Sorry about bothering you all.
Lol despite Soph's impression, we weren't denying anything. We always got open minds and ears. And we know better than to deny such things. We know our place :P


We just love discussion, debate, ideologies, and devils advocacy.
 
I have been known to debate from time to time.


That was exactly what I was thinking, Hink. I don't want Tiw getting progressively stronger and stronger without him ever truly being able to handle and understand his power.
 
Sophileon said:
I have been known to debate from time to time.
That was exactly what I was thinking, Hink. I don't want Tiw getting progressively stronger and stronger without him ever truly being able to handle and understand his power.
Umderstatement of the day lol. If I asked you to debate the benefits of a Mary sue you would totally take the challenge.


Maybe he only gets half growth or less until his full power is realized.


Or


Maybe that training goes at a double it triple rate, but instead of going to his full power, the growth is applied to how.much he can handle.
 
Sophileon said:
Time to get over it Hink lol!
If all we have is a week IC then better get to practicing and training and forging alliances.


Question, Kyero. If we were to have our characters train some more before the eventual battle, would that help in increasing their power further? Or is there a limitation on how often they can train? I'm just trying to have Tiw better understand his power and training seems the most ideal way to help him.
Training isn't always about getting stronger. In fact, Era's power will not increase at all over this coming week. Training your mind, training your body, honing your fighting spirit. It all comes via different kinds of training, and it doesn't at all have to be physical or geared towards power raising.


So it's up to you how you wish to train. Era will be focusing exclusively on trying to discover the secrets of unlocking the ability to sense the energies within herself and block the Scouter from reading it, so her power isn't going anywhere.


 


Naruyashan said:
I apologize if I gave the impression that I thought anyone but the GM could approve the concept. Regarding PMing you, I wasn't sure whether or not to, so I just spoke up and said that I had a concept in mind, with the hopes that, assuming non-saiyans were acceptable, we could discuss it further via PM. Sorry about bothering you all.
You didn't bother anyone. You just made a slightly shaky first impression. It happens.


If you're dead set on not playing as a Saiyan, then I have to request that you find another RP. But if you don't mind playing as a Saiyan, then you're still welcome to join and share ideas that you may have. Just make sure that they always come to me first, either via private message or tagging me in the OOC.


Whatever your decision, I wish you luck in your RP endeavors.
 
Oh! Lol that reminds me. If Tiw gets stronger, Rekken or Whig might have him killed or something.
 
I don't plan on Tiw getting any stronger before this next battle.


In fact, he's dead-set on learning how to contain and use his power to it's maximum capacity.
 

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