fighting deathlords

He forgot about me!


But then, Im not really a major player. I am just representing the poor Dragon Blooded in all these arguments. A group of five dragon blooded would kick FaFL's ass!..


Well, not really, not even I believe that.


/ Zaramis out.
 
Don't sell the DBs short.


 Five Invested Infernals of DB stock, each comparable to Dukantha or better, have a decent shot against Lion.  8)
 
Don't sell the DBs short.
 Five Invested Infernals of DB stock, each comparable to Dukantha or better, have a decent shot against Lion.  8)
Screw a Circle of DBs


a THOUSAND DBs can whittle the lion, hell 200 DBS could do it


and percentage wise 200DBs is equivalent to 3 solars
 
mostly ranged and terrestrial sorcery specialists


and frontage? well the Close combat ones would be in Warstriders where possible so yah only 3-4 in HTH at a time


The idea is to lose the Lion's essence hrough attrition
 
Soulsteel weapons, plus what's-that-charm, Glorious Carnage Typhoon?


 Add a prepped Labyrinth spell that allows the gain of a mote per death on the battlefield...


 The funny thing is, the DBs might actually prefer having some of Lion's flunkies around, so that they can use Safety Among Enemies...
 
I think the terrestrials will be sitting in 20 airships and unleash their first age weaponry at him. overkill? yes. fun? definitely.
 
That makes for a good opening to the fight
finish up with essence cannons from warstriders
Nah for giggles we ping him to death with elemental lenses when he tries to crawl out of 4 miles diameter crater our initial attack created :)
 
The idea is to lose the Lion's essence through attrition
I'm not sure that would work. Abyssal charms and, in particular, necromancy tend to be able to regenerate essence as long as there is a lot of things to kill around. So, the more things that die through attrition, the more essence the Lion gets. Willpower might be a different story.
 
yeah but he is unhurt at this stage, hence why the massed firepower, force LOTS of dodge checks on him, he will need perfect defenses so often that he will run out of essence
 
yeah but he is unhurt at this stage' date=' hence why the massed firepower, force LOTS of dodge checks on him, he will need perfect defenses so often that he will run out of essence[/quote']
Given his Essence rating, I don't think a "perfect persistent" defense is out of the question.


-S
 
Lol, too many funny lines on this thread.  Anyway, I'm of the cliche school; one weakness.  In my stories, their weaknesses are bound in their new names...or you can be a wuss and toss them into Oblivion (too easy).


In my story (playing and writing), my circle first goes up against Betrayer of Sweet Affection (my DL).  He basically fights one on one with my Eclipse while everyone else (a turncoat abyssal and 4 solars) play interference.  


Irony in the defeat of BoSA = being betrayed by his (former) love.  Autumn Gold and his posse finds a way to exploit this.  Then they free his love, an abyssal, go to the Malfean that controlled BoSA to get back the abyssal's true names, then the Eclipse takes himself and the Malfean into the Void.  Funny thing is, he escapes...after all, he has to be around to kill FaFL for the Maker.


So, FaFL.  Weakness=FORSAKEN  What if the Solars were able to take him back?  Wouldn't be forsaken anymore....  So, wear him down, do away with his armor (via a spell I'm working on for our Twilight) and touch his core.  Invite him to be "one of the guys" again, and 'poof,' no more DL.
 
CJviscious said:
Lol, too many funny lines on this thread.  Anyway, I'm of the cliche school; one weakness.  In my stories, their weaknesses are bound in their new names...or you can be a wuss and toss them into Oblivion (too easy).
In my story (playing and writing), my circle first goes up against Betrayer of Sweet Affection (my DL).  He basically fights one on one with my Eclipse while everyone else (a turncoat abyssal and 4 solars) play interference.  


Irony in the defeat of BoSA = being betrayed by his (former) love.  Autumn Gold and his posse finds a way to exploit this.  Then they free his love, an abyssal, go to the Malfean that controlled BoSA to get back the abyssal's true names, then the Eclipse takes himself and the Malfean into the Void.  Funny thing is, he escapes...after all, he has to be around to kill FaFL for the Maker.


So, FaFL.  Weakness=FORSAKEN  What if the Solars were able to take him back?  Wouldn't be forsaken anymore....  So, wear him down, do away with his armor (via a spell I'm working on for our Twilight) and touch his core.  Invite him to be "one of the guys" again, and 'poof,' no more DL.
Did I read that right? You are the storyteller and play a character and when it comes to a major fight the player characters serve as distractions while your character takes on the deathlord?
 
Yes and no.  For the story I am writing, yes, I am PC and...well, everything else.  Kansas really doesn't have many gamers. :cry:


And then there's the series I'm getting ready for with my roommate.  I will only be NPCs there..although if he lasts long enough I'm sure Autumn Gold and crew will make a cameo appearance.
 
The strange thing is that 1000 terrestial attacking all at once wouyldn't be able to do the job.  The lion would just use a persistant defense and some other persistant effects and then slay them all.


Question is: Can you parry attacks from implosion bows and essence cannons, with a normal parry action? :)


However if the DB's attacked in waves of lets say 40-60 each time he would be forced to use his charms again and again draining his willpower.


The funny thing is that in the 2nd edition the new mask of winters would be even harder to defeat. He has an arftifact weapon that can supply him with 2 health levels per hit!
 
Sorrow said:
The strange thing is that 1000 terrestial attacking all at once wouyldn't be able to do the job.  The lion would just use a persistant defense and some other persistant effects and then slay them all.
Question is: Can you parry attacks from implosion bows and essence cannons, with a normal parry action? :)


However if the DB's attacked in waves of lets say 40-60 each time he would be forced to use his charms again and again draining his willpower.


The funny thing is that in the 2nd edition the new mask of winters would be even harder to defeat. He has an arftifact weapon that can supply him with 2 health levels per hit!
Why would he be forced to use his charms again? A scene doesn't end when you retreat and instantly attack again... and if you give him time he regenerates essence, too. it is not like persistent effects cost a lot.


and if the dragon blooded retreat... he might just counterattack.
 
Well, I'm sure many of you have the Autochonian book, which actually posts the FaFL's stats, along with examples of possible high essence charms. While they don't list the specifics, they do give you mote costs and the general effect of the charms. Here are some of the examples...


For 10 motes he has a scene long presence charm that slays any non-magical being who dares strike him in close combat


For 5 motes, he has a scene long melee charm that makes any opponents defense, short of a perfect effect inapplicable.


For 6 motes, he has a supplemental melee charm that kills every extra within a 10 yard radius from where he strikes.


and...


For 5 motes, a scene long resistance charm that grants perfect immunity to all non-magical sources of injury.


While it doesn't outright say that he has a scene long perfect defense, it does say that these are just samples and that he has "other equivalently heinous powers."


The book also high lights, as a requirement to do the quest, that characters "must be able to absorb or avoid attacks of 50L damage or more, be able to handle Essence draining attacks from a powerful soulsteel weapon and advanced Abyssal Charms and be able to effectively damage a being with 26L soak at the bare minimum, and their players must have a firm understanding of Exalted battle tactics because their enemy most certainly does."


Just adding this in as food for thought, hoping it will stimulate even more discussion on what it would take to bring down the mightiest of the Deathlords.
 

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