fighting deathlords

I think that as soon as Fokuf tried to do anything other than be a figurehead, the assassins would have to form an orderly queue.
 
Indeed. He probably knew that, but I simply don't care for him. I usually have him replaced in game with something more interesting usually.
 
I liked the fokuf plot, it is a classical one.


and killing autochton difficult? meh, he is sleeping and all his defenses are some spirits.
 
Have you READ about those fucking spirits >.> Debok Mon would rape you five different times before you even saw the entrance to the Godhead, he's the meanest God of War this side of Mars...
 
I don't have to fight him... primodials were assasinated by single night caste solars in the past... no reason why it shouldn't be doable again. A day caste abyssal with some deathlord toys would probably have an easy time going in and killing him if they had a reason to do so... and reasons... well, the invasion of creation is one and perhaps some neverborn thinks that autobot has some cool stories to tell down in the labyrinth.
 
Yes because another Malfean IS what Creation needs, along with that 3,000 mile wide shadowland...


And the Night castes single handedly killing off a Primordial, I'll give you that, meaning theres a pile of his dead allies along with all the dead component souls and the ol' Night Caste walks up to knife the very tired Primordial in the back.


Cheap.  :lol:
 
Yes because another Malfean IS what Creation needs, along with that 3,000 mile wide shadowland...
And the Night castes single handedly killing off a Primordial, I'll give you that, meaning theres a pile of his dead allies along with all the dead component souls and the ol' Night Caste walks up to knife the very tired Primordial in the back.


Cheap.  :lol:
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I doubt that, it has been done and autochton is an easy target. he is dying anyway.
 
Yes, hence the Autobot campaign setting where FaFL nukes his ass and takes the secrets of Exaltation for himself and then manifests it to shirk his armor and become and incarnate Primordial/Malfean.
 
Yes' date=' hence the Autobot campaign setting where FaFL nukes his ass and takes the secrets of Exaltation for himself and then manifests it to shirk his armor and become and incarnate Primordial/Malfean.[/quote']
Yes, well, I have a problem with that campaign, just as Safim has a problem with all the scenarios leaving out the Sidereals. It states that Debok Moom and his forces would be able to go toe to toe with FaFL and his forces and stand a chance of winning, but that he's too far away and wouldn't be likely to take action until its too late. Excuse me, but Autochon is dying! I think Espinoquae, the all seeing eye, would be well aware of FaFL's actions, send word right away to Debok Moom, and he'd come running asap, just as the Sidereal's would've at least attempted SOMETHING to stop the Autobot invasion. Successful or not, they could've at least mentioned them and their attempts at trying to stop, or hinder the invasion.


Further more, they say that the Eight subgods are the equal of Creations greatest gods, and the least of which are at least the equal of one of the Five Elemental Dragons...Hello? Would FaFL really be able to take them? That's like saying he could walk into Yu-shan, flip off The Unconquered Sun, then proceed to whip his ass, along with Luna and the 5 Maidens....FaFL is powerful, but he's not THAT powerful. :?


Just look at what Kulka does at the end of the Locust Wars, it took nothing short of thousands of DBs and dozens of Autobots to fight him to a stand still when he finally reaches the Imperial City...and he killed off a "staggering" number of them before retreating...and that's just the Elemental Dragon of Earth, which even the weakest of the Subgods is a match for.... :wink:
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Just look at what Kulka does at the end of the Locust Wars, it took nothing short of thousands of DBs and dozens of Autobots to fight him to a stand still when he finally reaches the Imperial City...and he killed off a "staggering" number of them before retreating...and that's just the Elemental Dragon of Earth, which even the weakest of the Subgods is a match for....
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Actually that should read thousands of DBs and all the CELESTIALS of Creation. That's who were assembled.
 
Yeah the writing of that campaign was bad and that heaven shuts its door thing is just some unlogical plot twist of the author to explain while an assault of creation does not invite retaliation from heaven. totally out of place. same with most of the autobot fluff. sorry, but an essence 3 autobot beating a lunar? 95% of all lunars will rip her a new one...


and then the autobot gods. sorry, but autobot is not creation. he is only one primodial. if he can create a powerful pantheon on a whim why wasn't that a defensive strategy of the primodials as a whole?


bah so many shit in that campaign.
 
Safim said:
Yeah the writing of that campaign was bad and that heaven shuts its door thing is just some unlogical plot twist of the author to explain while an assault of creation does not invite retaliation from heaven. totally out of place. same with most of the autobot fluff. sorry, but an essence 3 autobot beating a lunar? 95% of all lunars will rip her a new one...
and then the autobot gods. sorry, but autobot is not creation. he is only one primodial. if he can create a powerful pantheon on a whim why wasn't that a defensive strategy of the primodials as a whole?


bah so many shit in that campaign.
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While I'm with you for the most part, there are things that you haven't considered in your argument. First off, think of heaven as the U.N. Times a thousand. While they'd love to help, there's just so much red tape and different opinions on HOW to help, that it just shuts itself down. While I'm sure there are plenty of gods and Sidereals that wanted to help, that doesn't mean that they necessarily could. If the system breaks down, all they can really do is pull their hair out (if they have any :wink: ) and try to push their agenda ahead of the thousands of other agendas waiting to be heard and hope something gets done before its to late.


As for 95% of Lunars beating an Autobot, I have to simply disagree. I have been playing an Autobot in a campaign since the book came out and I've defeated many, many Lunars in one on one combat. That's where Autobots shine, is in one on one fights. I had a 44L soak, from nearly the start of the campaign (Stamina 6 + Articulate Plate 12L + Subcutaneous Armor Plating x3, 9L + The Maker's Advanced Defense Array 20L) and now I'm up to 48L, since I'm now Essence 7. Combine this with Probability Degradation Matrix (for enemies within 30 yards, 10's only count as one success, 1's take away successes and the target number for all rolls is increased by 1), Accelerated Response System (2m for a Full parry) and Celerity Enabling Module (pick a target, can dodge or parry as often as they attack) and I pwned the Lunars that dared attack me...and that's only my defenses. Autobots might not be all that, but they aren't push overs by any stretch of the imagination. Oh, and I also healed 1L every round. If Desperate for essence, I could always shoot them with the energy drain submodule of my Essence pulse cannon (started at 18 essence drain, plus successes on the hit, soakable only using their Permanent Essence) and gain back more essence than I used.


As for the Autobot Gods, I tend to agree with you. However, I see them as more or less Fractured parts of him, kind of like the Primordials did in Creation, rather than as separate gods. If they were to die, so would Autochon. In general, it took a whole lot of Exalts to take down the Fractured portions of the other Primordials. I liken the stories of one Exalted killing a primordial to the stories of Hercules and how he held up the world, so that Atlas could get the golden apples for him. Its more a fantastical story, told to bolster the hearts and courage of the masses, than anything else (I'm sure going to get it for saying this, aren't I? :lol: ).
 
*taps the club against his hand* Nah' date=' it won't hurt too much  :wink:[/quote']
Wait, wait, wait!!! Did I mention that I bruise easily and have the slow healing flaw? :cry:


*mumbles to himself* getting Dark Fate problably wasn't a brilliant idea either... :(
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*summons royal warstrider complete with warstrider grand daiklaive*


I promise nothing, but I heard it hurts.
 
HA! I'll spare the Kindle, but if I were you, I'd run from ol' warstrider boy here. I think he named the blade Dark Fate too.   :)
 
Oh ok, *opens gate to Heaven, walks you through* Easy there, Captain Sword Bigsword there likes to bully people. Have a peach and some wine, you'll feel GREAT afterwards.
 
Oh ok' date=' *opens gate to Heaven, walks you through* Easy there, Captain Sword Bigsword there likes to bully people. Have a peach and some wine, you'll feel GREAT afterwards.[/quote']
HA!!! It was my plan to get one of those peaches all along! So long suckers!!! *looking back over his shoulders, laughing at the surprised look on Cthulu Wakes and Safim's faces, and runs straight into the jaws of a waiting Celestial Lion... :wink: *


Thus ends the ramblings of Kindle...short lived as they were...
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HA! They're so cute when they just Exalt.


Man, you're gonna be a great addition to the forums,  :lol:  :lol:
 
I suggest you perhaps antagonize a god of war? Perhaps go bug Mars. Or maybe mess with the insidious mind that is Jakk Bey. I hear he's one crazy sumbitch  :lol:
 
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