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I wonder how Honoka would react to her sister in law?purplepanda288 said:True true! What was I doing? Oh ya, writing a post for my characters
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I wonder how Honoka would react to her sister in law?purplepanda288 said:True true! What was I doing? Oh ya, writing a post for my characters
You explained the 'taint' as a byproduct of magic. You never explained it as some sort of magical anti-matter. As a byproduct of magic it is magic unto itself. Even then, if we go with the interpretation that it's some sort of magical anti-matter, the complete opposite of magic, then it's STILL magic. A byproduct of magic would still have traces of magic, it's still magical and thus can be negated. A magical anti-matter would still be "matter" and thus negated. Negation simply disperses anything magical. The reason I used the "positive" is just to help kind of explain it. Byproduct, anti-magic, positive and negative, the end result is it's still a type of magic unto itself. If it wasn't a type of magic it wouldn't be able to do anything. So as a type of magic it can be negated same as any other type of magic.purplepanda288 said:I don't remember the part where we agreed that taint would be a negative ( Edit: negative charged form) of magic. Taint is the complete opposite of magic, they cancel each other out. I see where your coming from but, let's say, just let me give you an example yes? Let's say that magic is a light source and that light source is shinging. Now let's say I put a cube, the cube is a Mage using magic, that cube casts a shadow. That shadow is taint, it's a biproduct of light. and now let's hay that of I shine light on the other side of the box where the shadow. The shadow disappears.
It really depends on how shift magic works. If it's just a "I change you" sorta deal then it'd actually be fairly worthless in a lot of the situations you've used it. For example your air manipulation when you turned air into bear traps. If you don't actively maintain it the air would just go back to being normal air. This applies for virtually every single time you've used shift magic. With nothing to maintain it it wouldn't be able to hold it's form. There would be some examples of it being able to hold it's form, such as if you turned water into steam it aint like the steam would just automatically go back to water the second you left it alone. But for every practical application you've demonstrated you'd need to actively be maintaining the change, and in those cases yeah they could be negated because he'd be negating the magic maintaining it. So imagine your shift magic as an intangible force shaping the molecules within the atmosphere to create a solid bear trap. Without that intangible force holding them there they'd disperse and go back to normal, so if that force is suddenly removed then it disperses and your bear trap ceases to exist.Metaphysics said:What about Raa's shift magic? Going through this example, the magic enforces the change but does not maintain it since the change has already occurred. So since it's there already and it's technically not magic does that mean null does not work on shifted material?
Seeing as how reflection is magic and magic is negated your reflection spell would be negated. I'm not entirely sure how you could reflect an intangible force to begin with. I mean, it's not like his negation is him shooting out a beam or something. But regardless, your reflect would be negated.Kazehana said:Ahh gotcha
One last super specific example because I just thought of it: What if Mimi tried to reflect his negation? Would it reflect it back at him, thus negating his negation?
I want them to stay married tbhMetaphysics said:I wonder how Honoka would react to her sister in law?
She can reflect field spells if she surrounds herself in a mirror ball, as since it technically comes in all directions in, it goes it all directions out. Though I suppose that it would technically not be a thing she could do with thatColt556 said:Seeing as how reflection is magic and magic is negated your reflection spell would be negated. I'm not entirely sure how you could reflect an intangible force to begin with. I mean, it's not like his negation is him shooting out a beam or something. But regardless, your reflect would be negated.
There's a reason I took the spell, it's OP
Good thing it's not like that.Colt556 said:You explained the 'taint' as a byproduct of magic. You never explained it as some sort of magical anti-matter. As a byproduct of magic it is magic unto itself. Even then, if we go with the interpretation that it's some sort of magical anti-matter, the complete opposite of magic, then it's STILL magic. A byproduct of magic would still have traces of magic, it's still magical and thus can be negated. A magical anti-matter would still be "matter" and thus negated. Negation simply disperses anything magical. The reason I used the "positive" is just to help kind of explain it. Byproduct, anti-magic, positive and negative, the end result is it's still a type of magic unto itself. If it wasn't a type of magic it wouldn't be able to do anything. So as a type of magic it can be negated same as any other type of magic.
It really depends on how shift magic works. If it's just a "I change you" sorta deal then it'd actually be fairly worthless in a lot of the situations you've used it. For example your air manipulation when you turned air into bear traps. If you don't actively maintain it the air would just go back to being normal air. This applies for virtually every single time you've used shift magic. With nothing to maintain it it wouldn't be able to hold it's form. There would be some examples of it being able to hold it's form, such as if you turned water into steam it aint like the steam would just automatically go back to water the second you left it alone. But for every practical application you've demonstrated you'd need to actively be maintaining the change, and in those cases yeah they could be negated because he'd be negating the magic maintaining it. So imagine your shift magic as an intangible force shaping the molecules within the atmosphere to create a solid bear trap. Without that intangible force holding them there they'd disperse and go back to normal, so if that force is suddenly removed then it disperses and your bear trap ceases to exist.
Seeing as how reflection is magic and magic is negated your reflection spell would be negated. I'm not entirely sure how you could reflect an intangible force to begin with. I mean, it's not like his negation is him shooting out a beam or something. But regardless, your reflect would be negated.
There's a reason I took the spell, it's OP
I'm sorry, I just read this andColt556 said:You explained the 'taint' as a byproduct of magic. You never explained it as some sort of magical anti-matter. As a byproduct of magic it is magic unto itself. Even then, if we go with the interpretation that it's some sort of magical anti-matter, the complete opposite of magic, then it's STILL magic. A byproduct of magic would still have traces of magic, it's still magical and thus can be negated. A magical anti-matter would still be "matter" and thus negated. Negation simply disperses anything magical. The reason I used the "positive" is just to help kind of explain it. Byproduct, anti-magic, positive and negative, the end result is it's still a type of magic unto itself. If it wasn't a type of magic it wouldn't be able to do anything. So as a type of magic it can be negated same as any other type of magic.
It really depends on how shift magic works. If it's just a "I change you" sorta deal then it'd actually be fairly worthless in a lot of the situations you've used it. For example your air manipulation when you turned air into bear traps. If you don't actively maintain it the air would just go back to being normal air. This applies for virtually every single time you've used shift magic. With nothing to maintain it it wouldn't be able to hold it's form. There would be some examples of it being able to hold it's form, such as if you turned water into steam it aint like the steam would just automatically go back to water the second you left it alone. But for every practical application you've demonstrated you'd need to actively be maintaining the change, and in those cases yeah they could be negated because he'd be negating the magic maintaining it. So imagine your shift magic as an intangible force shaping the molecules within the atmosphere to create a solid bear trap. Without that intangible force holding them there they'd disperse and go back to normal, so if that force is suddenly removed then it disperses and your bear trap ceases to exist.
Seeing as how reflection is magic and magic is negated your reflection spell would be negated. I'm not entirely sure how you could reflect an intangible force to begin with. I mean, it's not like his negation is him shooting out a beam or something. But regardless, your reflect would be negated.
There's a reason I took the spell, it's OP
Well negation is a prime example of "it's magic, I aint gotta explain shit" since they never suggested in the show or manga that it was some kind of aura, or field, or anything like that. Dude could just negate your magic and be done with it. It's probably something completely intangible that targets the source of the magic directly. Like, Professor X mind controlling you and forcing you to stop using magic sorta nonsense.Kazehana said:She can reflect field spells if she surrounds herself in a mirror ball, as since it technically comes in all directions in, it goes it all directions out. Though I suppose that it would technically not be a thing she could do with that
I was just confused because tbh the situation is a paradox. I would doubt we would get into that sort of situation, but Gilad wins everything, so not gonna argueColt556 said:Well negation is a prime example of "it's magic, I aint gotta explain shit" since they never suggested in the show or manga that it was some kind of aura, or field, or anything like that. Dude could just negate your magic and be done with it. It's probably something completely intangible that targets the source of the magic directly. Like, Professor X mind controlling you and forcing you to stop using magic sorta nonsense.
Or maybe we just leave at
In simplistic, visceral terms I'd imagine reflect as a mirror and the negate as a hammer being thrown at it. Just slams through and busts the mirror no fucks given.Kazehana said:I was just confused because tbh the situation is a paradox. I would doubt we would get into that sort of situation, but Gilad wins everything, so not gonna argue
The mirror is just a medium. It's basically a portal to the parallel dimension, allowing the attack to pass through and proceed in the opposite directionColt556 said:In simplistic, visceral terms I'd imagine reflect as a mirror and the negate as a hammer being thrown at it. Just slams through and busts the mirror no fucks given.
It is a caster type magic as it was categorized as such so it's magic expelled from the users body. It also had a radius in which it can be used but that was also explained as being very large.Colt556 said:Well negation is a prime example of "it's magic, I aint gotta explain shit" since they never suggested in the show or manga that it was some kind of aura, or field, or anything like that. Dude could just negate your magic and be done with it. It's probably something completely intangible that targets the source of the magic directly. Like, Professor X mind controlling you and forcing you to stop using magic sorta nonsense.
Or maybe we just leave at
You need to wait for me to respond to the situation. You shouldn't reply after every post in a group setting like thisJackaboi said:Wut?
Sorry...Kazehana said:You need to wait for me to respond to the situation. You shouldn't reply after every post in a group setting like this
Tbh her reaction to Eric doesn't really matter since you've already moved past it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
random poking of people with knivesKyuubey said:>random wiggling
It's fine just give me some time to respondJackaboi said:Sorry...
No poking people with knives! Use a spork.Wyatt said:random poking of people with knives
*random shooting of people with penguins.Wyatt said:random poking of people with knives
Kyuubey said:No poking people with knives! Use a spork.
random thievery of soulsMetaphysics said:*random shooting of people with penguins.
It's difficult describing intangible things.Kazehana said:The mirror is just a medium. It's basically a portal to the parallel dimension, allowing the attack to pass through and proceed in the opposite direction
But I can see where you're coming from. I would just picture it as a candle snuffed out by a bowl or something lol
I think 'expelled' is the wrong word, that implies it's coming from the caster and traveling towards the target. It's more that caster magic is using the mage's mana whereas holder magic uses the item's magic with the mage simply activating it. It's why Grey can just materialize ice over or around his opponent without it actually traveling from his body to the target. I think for most caster type magic, as long as you're in range you can materialize your magic anywhere on the field.Kyuubey said:It is a caster type magic as it was categorized as such so it's magic expelled from the users body. It also had a radius in which it can be used but that was also explained as being very large.
I grant them a wish and turn them into magical girls. They need to quit complainin'!Wyatt said:random thievery of souls