Fandom Boku no Hero: Peace Sign Academia OOC

[St. Elsewhere]

I give Deku a pass, considering his circumstances, not having a quirk, being bullied by Bakugou his whole life, getting thrust into life as a hero. It makes sense for him to be shy and submissive, not only that, but as of season 2 he's been shedding that "generic spineless shounen protag" moniker. His advice to Shouto during the UA tournament, fighting stain, etc. He's growing out of that box. Deku FEELS like a character that's living and breathing, he's not simply an unfortunate passenger to life's twists and turns. He's actively growing with his experiences. I can NOT say the same about other spineless protagonists for the most part.

In fact I wouldn't call Deku "spineless" he's simply shy.

 

[BriiAngelic]

St. Elsewhere How did you even find speedos? I straight up can't find anything >.< only a few canon chubby characters

 

[August]

It's not specifically about women. In general they're submissive. The single most common trope for an MC is him sitting in the back row by the window saying how he wishes his peaceful days would continue only to have plot crash into him. They only stand up for themselves when the plot demands it and any other time they're just meek little puppies to walk all over.

Well that is kind of just the easiest way to get the audience to like the character. I saw another video that was making jokes about anime and that whole scenario. Even though it was just a joke, they actually did make some good points. Basically they do this to make the character relatable, and then the plot crashes on them because it feeds into the inner desire of many fans of one day an adventure will just barging into their life.

 

[Xel]

Well that is kind of just the easiest way to get the audience to like the character. I saw another video that was making jokes about anime and that whole scenario. Even though it was just a joke, they actually did make some good points. Basically they do this to make the character relatable, and then the plot crashes on them because it feeds into the inner desire of many fans of one day an adventure will just barging into their life.

That's one thing I've always hated about anime. Anime is targeted to pathetic loser anti-social otakus. It's designed to be a self-insert, to be the ultimate form of escapism. Rather than tell a story it exists to uplift the otaku so they spend money. So the otaku is a spineless, shy, submissive, meek loser they can't relate to someone who isn't those things. So every MC has to be those things and then gain powers/women/fame to enable the otaku power-fantasy. It just gets old after seeing it for the thousandth time. Every male MC looks the same. Acts the same. Just blank self-inserts for the otaku. Some are better than others, some rely less on the self-insert than others. But it's still way too common.

But that's more a problem with otakus than anything else. Otaku culture is fucking cancerous as hell. But since they're the ones spending the money anime has to cater to them.

 

[St. Elsewhere]

St. Elsewhere How did you even find speedos? I straight up can't find anything >.< only a few canon chubby characters

I looked up buff as well.....thinking it would be good compromise.......all I got was shirtless men with 12-packs that somehow managed to look as skinny as a twig

 

[August]

I give Deku a pass, considering his circumstances, not having a quirk, being bullied by Bakugou his whole life, getting thrust into life as a hero. It makes sense for him to be shy and submissive, not only that, but as of season 2 he's been shedding that "generic spineless shounen protag" moniker. His advice to Shouto during the UA tournament, fighting stain, etc. He's growing out of that box. Deku FEELS like a character that's living and breathing, he's not simply an unfortunate passenger to life's twists and turns. He's actively growing with his experiences. I can NOT say the same about other spineless protagonists for the most part.

I'd like to argue that Deku wasn't completely submissive. He showed some very courageous acts at a young age despite not having a quirk. Mostly just lacking in confidence, feeling completely at a disadvantage . . . Although, I don't like saying the life of a hero was thrust into his life. Deku set himself up to get the resources to get where he is now.

Actually, this reminds me of this analysis video about what Allmight's speech about "there's a difference between being lucky and deserving". Its a nice video that analyzes Bakugo and Midoriya. About how Deku, although he feels like he got lucky is very deserving. He worked hard to get where he was, he took the leap (literally) when latching onto Almight. He put himself into a situation in which he can get to where he is.

I think Midoriya breaks the trope of the plot literally dragging the Protagonist in. Midoriya didn't get dragged in, he reached out for it and latched himself on.

Also this was a good video, you should watch it--

 

[St. Elsewhere]

That's one thing I've always hated about anime. Anime is targeted to pathetic loser anti-social otakus. It's designed to be a self-insert, to be the ultimate form of escapism. Rather than tell a story it exists to uplift the otaku so they spend money. So the otaku is a spineless, shy, submissive, meek loser they can't relate to someone who isn't those things. So every MC has to be those things and then gain powers/women/fame to enable the otaku power-fantasy. It just gets old after seeing it for the thousandth time. Every male MC looks the same. Acts the same. Just blank self-inserts for the otaku. Some are better than others, some rely less on the self-insert than others. But it's still way too common.

But that's more a problem with otakus than anything else. Otaku culture is fucking cancerous as hell. But since they're the ones spending the money anime has to cater to them.

I feel like that has less to do with pandering to Otaku culture, hell No game no life was heavy into the culture but that was still amazing. And more to do with Japanese culture, which is very respect based and conservative.

 

[August]

Another interesting thing with Boku no Hero is that a lot of anime before it had the premise of "combining powers" "working together" "uniting as one" in order to reach a goal.

In Boku no Hero, the point of them is to get strong, and in a way working against each other to reach their goals. Its about individual strength, even if there is a team type of exercise. Rather than coming together, they have to work to better themselves.

And lets not even talk about how they handle backstories--
The tournament arc is just so well done, it is my favorite tournament arc so far.

 

[St. Elsewhere]

I'd like to argue that Deku wasn't completely submissive. He showed some very courageous acts at a young age despite not having a quirk. Mostly just lacking in confidence, feeling completely at a disadvantage . . . Although, I don't like saying the life of a hero was thrust into his life. Deku set himself up to get the resources to get where he is now.

Actually, this reminds me of this analysis video about what Allmight's speech about "there's a difference between being lucky and deserving". Its a nice video that analyzes Bakugo and Midoriya. About how Deku, although he feels like he got lucky is very deserving. He worked hard to get where he was, he took the leap (literally) when latching onto Almight. He put himself into a situation in which he can get to where he is.

I think Midoriya breaks the trope of the plot literally dragging the Protagonist in. Midoriya didn't get dragged in, he reached out for it and latched himself on.

Also this was a good video, you should watch it--

Yeah, That's why corrected myself and said he was shy instead of spineless. But, yeah that's a very good point that I didn't think about. Do you have a link to the video?

 

[BriiAngelic]

I'd like to argue that Deku wasn't completely submissive. He showed some very courageous acts at a young age despite not having a quirk. Mostly just lacking in confidence, feeling completely at a disadvantage . . . Although, I don't like saying the life of a hero was thrust into his life. Deku set himself up to get the resources to get where he is now.

Actually, this reminds me of this analysis video about what Allmight's speech about "there's a difference between being lucky and deserving". Its a nice video that analyzes Bakugo and Midoriya. About how Deku, although he feels like he got lucky is very deserving. He worked hard to get where he was, he took the leap (literally) when latching onto Almight. He put himself into a situation in which he can get to where he is.

I think Midoriya breaks the trope of the plot literally dragging the Protagonist in. Midoriya didn't get dragged in, he reached out for it and latched himself on.

Also this was a good video, you should watch it--

Explanation Point's video?

 

[August]

That's one thing I've always hated about anime. Anime is targeted to pathetic loser anti-social otakus. It's designed to be a self-insert, to be the ultimate form of escapism. Rather than tell a story it exists to uplift the otaku so they spend money. So the otaku is a spineless, shy, submissive, meek loser they can't relate to someone who isn't those things. So every MC has to be those things and then gain powers/women/fame to enable the otaku power-fantasy. It just gets old after seeing it for the thousandth time. Every male MC looks the same. Acts the same. Just blank self-inserts for the otaku. Some are better than others, some rely less on the self-insert than others. But it's still way too common.

But that's more a problem with otakus than anything else. Otaku culture is fucking cancerous as hell. But since they're the ones spending the money anime has to cater to them.

. . . wow >.> you do realize that this happens in more than just anime? Lots of stories, movies, life-action tv shows do the SAME exact thing. The thing about humans is that while we all want to believe we're all unique in every way, we're not completely different from each other. Fandoms and communities like to flame each other but in reality we're all kind of the same, we just direct our excitement to different things.

This isn't just an otaku nation thing, and actually some creators insert themselves. Shan Darren literally puts himself in the book---
If you're really so tired of it, maybe its time for you to make something different . . . See if you can make things work your way and change the direction of entertainment, that's what I always say to myself when I write out different ideas. Break all the tropes--

I don't know about you, but I have seen some pretty diverse characters. Even if they have some tropes tied to them, I still see them as something different. Maybe you're just watching too much of the same anime? :/ possibly even the fanservice genre, that definitely panders to the audience . . .

 

[August]

Yeah, That's why corrected myself and said he was shy instead of spineless. But, yeah that's a very good point that I didn't think about. Do you have a link to the video?

Explanation Point's video?

 

[St. Elsewhere]

Another interesting thing with Boku no Hero is that a lot of anime before it had the premise of "combining powers" "working together" "uniting as one" in order to reach a goal.

In Boku no Hero, the point of them is to get strong, and in a way working against each other to reach their goals. Its about individual strength, even if there is a team type of exercise. Rather than coming together, they have to work to better themselves.

And lets not even talk about how they handle backstories--
The tournament arc is just so well done, it is my favorite tournament arc so far.

Tournament arcs are hard to get right because generally it doesn't feel like anyone can win. Either:

A: The main character will win or will lose at the last round because his opponent cheated

OR

B: There will be an interruption, this often happens in an effort to spare less important characters from being looked at negatively in the eyes of the viewer.

 

[BriiAngelic]

Yessss Thought so

 

[August]

Tournament arcs are hard to get right because generally it doesn't feel like anyone can win. Either:

A: The main character will win or will lose at the last round because his opponent cheated

OR

B: There will be an interruption, this often happens in an effort to spare less important characters from being looked at negatively in the eyes of the viewer.

I think Midoriya's fight with Todoroki was one of the best fights I have seen. It might have been stupid to try to help Todoroki break down the barrier that was holding him back, but it shows soo much in Midoriya's character more than it would have if he had won. It goes to show how true of a hero Midoriya is, meddling in places he doesn't need to, reaching out to help his classmate get over these mental blocks.
Sure he was still trying to win, but he was also kind of saving him.

 

[August]

BriiAngelic
Have you've ever watched this person?

 

[BriiAngelic]

BriiAngelic
Have you've ever watched this person?

I have and I have also watched that video ^.^

 

[August]

Also, I watched the finale for season 2 today and--

Spoiler: Spoiler (also I only watch the anime, I am not caught up on manga

They fooled me so hard, I thought it was going to be a filler episode of them just shopping but then MY BABY GOT NAPPED--- Also, I fee like maybe this isn't going to be the last time Hand-man goes to Deku to chat like that. I feel like maybe those two are going to have a lot of conversations. I think it was interesting how he went to Deku for therapy XD maybe he heard what was being said during the fight between Deku and Todoroki and thought "wow, he is pretty good at getting deep with people. I'm gonna try it"

 

[BriiAngelic]

Also, I watched the finale for season 2 today and--

Spoiler: Spoiler (also I only watch the anime, I am not caught up on manga

They fooled me so hard, I thought it was going to be a filler episode of them just shopping but then MY BABY GOT NAPPED--- Also, I fee like maybe this isn't going to be the last time Hand-man goes to Deku to chat like that. I feel like maybe those two are going to have a lot of conversations. I think it was interesting how he went to Deku for therapy XD maybe he heard what was being said during the fight between Deku and Todoroki and thought "wow, he is pretty good at getting deep with people. I'm gonna try it"

Spoiler

I love the way you described that ^.^ currently watching the finale~ I already read the manga though~ I love it though it really is outta nowhere~

 

[St. Elsewhere]

I think Midoriya's fight with Todoroki was one of the best fights I have seen. It might have been stupid to try to help Todoroki break down the barrier that was holding him back, but it shows soo much in Midoriya's character more than it would have if he had won. It goes to show how true of a hero Midoriya is, meddling in places he doesn't need to, reaching out to help his classmate get over these mental blocks.
Sure he was still trying to win, but he was also kind of saving him.

The storytelling packed into every fight during the arc was amazing. My personal favorite is Uraraka vs Bakugou, mostly because how it addresses the issue with the double standards between men and women during sports competetions. I've seen fans side with girls and outright boo the guy if he doesn't lay down and let the girl win during mixed gender wrestling tournaments. It's sickening to hear that; maintaining your focus during the heat of competetion is extremely difficult, and it's straight depressing to hear hundreds of voices screaming against. Not only that, but the respect Bakugou had for Uraraka before, during, and after the fight us what really made me understand him as a character. Also the "Where do you see fragile?"line is one of the most impactful lines I've ever heard in my entire life. It made me break down and cry when I first heard it.

 

[August]

Spoiler

I love the way you described that ^.^ currently watching the finale~ I already read the manga though~ I love it though it really is outta nowhere~

Spoiler

Thank you~ I am actually rewatching it with a friend right now. Usually I am annoyed with love stuff like what is going on with Uraraka but man, I was so glad she came back. I was screaming "GO TO HIM, SAVE MY BABYYYY" XD my mom thought I had gone insane. I am so excited to see where this goes to.
This whole interaction between them has gotten me so worked up, I love it. Everything about how it was executed was so well down, and the way Uraraka reacts when she sees them is priceless.
Also, dub or sub?

 

[August]

The storytelling packed into every fight during the arc was amazing. My personal favorite Uraraka vs Bakugou, mostly because how it addresses the issue with the double standards between men and women during sports competetions. I've seen fans side with girls and outright boo the guy if he doesn't lay down and let the girl win during mixed gender wrestling tournaments. It's sickening to hear that; maintaining your focus during the heat of competetion is extremely difficult, and it's straight depressing to hear hundreds of voices screaming against. Not only that, but the respect Bakugou had for Uraraka before, during, and after the fight us what really made me understand him as a character. Also the "Where do you fragile?"line is one of the most impactful lines I've ever heard in my entire life. It made me break down and cry when I first heard it.

I really liked how they touched in on some lesser characters. I actually felt for the the mind control guy, and I hope he shows up even more. He is just precious, and I think the interaction between him and Midoriya was cute.
. . . .
Man, Bakugo would have lost so hard to that guy though. He can't shut up for long XD

 

[BriiAngelic]

Spoiler

Thank you~ I am actually rewatching it with a friend right now. Usually I am annoyed with love stuff like what is going on with Uraraka but man, I was so glad she came back. I was screaming "GO TO HIM, SAVE MY BABYYYY" XD my mom thought I had gone insane. I am so excited to see where this goes to.
This whole interaction between them has gotten me so worked up, I love it. Everything about how it was executed was so well down, and the way Uraraka reacts when she sees them is priceless.
Also, dub or sub?

Eh Dub. I usually go by whichever I like better after the first episode for a series. I do watch the other as well, after though to see the differences if it's a really good series~

 

[August]

Hmm, trying to decide how to make my character work.

I want him to kinda of be like the original draft for Deku, in which he uses a bunch of gadgets to get through his obstacles. Robots are out, so what else can I do that isn't completely troll like bananas?

For sure, he is Jetpack Kidd. Hovering and temporary flight is a must. I want him to kind of have some of Battleship feel with his style, just looking over the field then laying something down that will either help his allies or trip up opponents. The way he works is that even if it isn't a big impact like others, just that one touch is enough to get what he needs. More like a fly honestly,

 

[August]

Eh Dub. I usually go by whichever I like better after the first episode for a series. I do watch the other as well, after though to see the differences if it's a really good series~

Yeah I watch dub too. I have no issue with the Japanese, its just more convenient for me since I need a new prescription, which means I can't read the subtitles as well.
I also like many dub actors. The one who voices 13 is actually a YouTuber I listen to. She does anime covers