Maybe that’s why it felt so sudden to me, I just recall far less people around liking anime and it becoming more trendy then it once was as a 90’s kid. But yeah, great to see anime being given more recognition and all, just seems odd how it’s taken that turn in the last decade alone.
I think this mentality is pretty toxic though. People can change their views all the time and I think being open about what you like is a positive thing. I don't think people should be hateful towards others for changing their opinion to something "better", like, you shouldn't shame someone for having been racist if they change their behaviour, or at least I wouldn't.
True, being open about what you like is awesome and people do change their opinions on different topics, being honest about all of the above is however also important. Bullying, hating on others for what they like then liking it for yourself yet not being honest about past actions and views is more so what is being brought up. It’s really not about retaliation against those people who once hated on you for something but the lack of honesty and owning up to past actions that is like a slap in the face on top of the past actions/views. No, people shouldn’t be hateful towards others, I agree, but those who were hateful in the past shouldn’t be hating either and should just be open about it. Forgetting and overlooking history isn’t changing it.
I guess the debate lies in whether they should "announce" that their opinion has changed and excuse their past actions or they should just go on without making a big deal out of it. Personally, I'm for the latter, as this rule isn't really enforceable on everything in your life. I totally see the frustration in having an interest and everyone seemingly copying it to be trendy, but I don't think spite gets us very far.
It’s more experience based not everyone announcing anything.... It’s not about spite, it’s more keep it real and being a two way street over the course of it’s history and what all it may have entailed or in some cases physical harm that could have resulted from it. This can also go beyond just liking anime or anything else, it plays into many different aspects of history And life in general. However I am drifting off the topic at hand and purpose of this thread, so I shall end it here.
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I must admit, I thought sim's sarcasm was painfully obvious from the beginning.
I doubt he's sarcastic since none of the other opinions mentioned are sarcastic, and he also liked a comment that was more or less "western culture is superior" which seems his general opinion on things. Don't let people off like that.
True. It also doesn't mean that that hypothetical someone is necessarily wrong, though. Way too many people act like reacting emotionally somehow means you've lost the argument when you, in fact, can be very angry and very right at the same time.
Honestly, I think that there is no possible common ground between our opinions, so I decided to go for an "agree to disagree", hence the fact that I was thinking of terminating the debate between ourselves here, especially because our premises are, in fact, about how to establish such debating communication, therefore, I think that any efforts of explaining further our points of view to each other will prove to be fruitless. Still, as a new argument was added, and, as initially the argument didn't exactly address the specific topic that I wanted to convey, I thought it may be necessary some sort of explanation. Plus, there is also an issue that I'd like to address, that is, in fact, not connected to the original premise.
I can agree with this statement to a certain degree, but still, I don't think it applies to arguments, but rather to public speech. When addressing an audience, the speaker must find harmony between ethos, pathos and logos, and often, in order to do so, some speakers often use informal fallacies. And one of them precisely is the ad hominem one, so, indeed, using such in arguments is, indeed, an informal fallacy. Another informal fallacy that you mentioned is the appeal to emotion, which basically consists of understanding why the audience is reacting emotionally to something and why they are doing so, and using that in order to manipulate their opinion. In fact, this last resource is rather used by populist politicians, for example, and the influence that they can have on their followers is simply huge, just by manipulating them emotionally.
