Fantasy The Coven OOC

[Zenpai]

I'm still not sure what to do, rank-wise. Do I just choose one?

 

[ZeiruliousMakavar]

Thalia_Neko It would be nice to have a few more people to be honest. We only have a few that can actively post right now, and having some new blood might help. Looking through the replies again, it felt like some after not posting that much or posting too little just dropped off the face of the earth. I just hope that if some people do join, that they have at least decent sized replies. Kind of like 2-3 paragraphs at least. It really doesn't take much to write a lot. You just have to be interested and willing to get into the mind of your character and to how they live their lives. Idk. Just my opinion. We'll see what happens -shrugs-

I think that's the issue right there though. Not everyone can write 2 or 3 paragraphs per post, hell most people I've seen in RPs have struggled with even one paragraph. So seeing an RP where the average is 5 or 6 paragraphs kind of alienates those who might be interested.

Now, I understand the desire for wanting literate players in an RP, especially ones like this one, but instituing post length limits will only cause the RP to die from people taking too long to post, or because massive posts (Like ones I've seen in this very RP...) causes a lot of potential players from not bothering. Hell, even I rarely join an RP that requires people to have certain post lengths or more.

Equating post length with a persons literacy is a ridiculous idea at best, and egotistical at worst.

 

[Thalia_Neko]

I'm still not sure what to do, rank-wise. Do I just choose one?

yup just pick one thats open, and if it seems like a good fit for your character to me, ill allow it, if not ill ask you to change it xD (no more single digits accepted rn for the record)

 

[Thalia_Neko]

I think that's the issue right there though. Not everyone can write 2 or 3 paragraphs per post, hell most people I've seen in RPs have struggled with even one paragraph. So seeing an RP where the average is 5 or 6 paragraphs kind of alienates those who might be interested.

Now, I understand the desire for wanting literate players in an RP, especially ones like this one, but instituting post length limits will only cause the RP to die from people taking too long to post, or because massive posts (Like ones I've seen in this very RP...) causes a lot of potential players from not bothering. Hell, even I rarely join an RP that requires people to have certain post lengths or more.

Equating post length with a persons literacy is a ridiculous idea at best, and egotistical at worst.

This is true, which is why i never expressly stated a post length. Barring "please post well and make engaging posts". Meaning to at least put some effort in. It may "alienate" people. But I honestly dont want people who post one line or two and offer nothing to the overall rp.

That doesnt mean I want to establish a 3-5 paragraph or more post length. Nah. Tbh, most people dont have to put anywhere near the size of posts Ive put up. A couple paragraphs, small paragraphs even. Or a solid single paragraph is usually enough for me. As long as it looks like it has had thought and effort put in by the rper. If you dont have the intention of adding to the roleplaying experience, then frankly you really shouldnt join the rp. (Or express interest in joining.)

(Im using "you" here generally. I dont mean literally you Zeirulious lol)

 

[Zenpai]

I think this might be the most effort I've ever put into a CS
(granted, I've only made four before this)

 

[Thalia_Neko]

I think this might be the most effort I've ever put into a CS
(granted, I've only made four before this)

eep
gl x)

tbh i actually dont require too much stuff or effort in my CSs, contrary to what other CSs in the rp look like mine are relatively tame to a lot of rps

 

[Elle Santiago]

uhhh i just got really inspired with the big posts. sorry?
also lmao i totally suck. something came up rl, ill post tomorrow morning instead. i have started it though but won't be able to finish tonight. i forgot i had morning class

 

[ZeiruliousMakavar]

This is true, which is why i never expressly stated a post length. Barring "please post well and make engaging posts". Meaning to at least put some effort in. It may "alienate" people. But I honestly dont want people who post one line or two and offer nothing to the overall rp.

That doesnt mean I want to establish a 3-5 paragraph or more post length. Nah. Tbh, most people dont have to put anywhere near the size of posts Ive put up. A couple paragraphs, small paragraphs even. Or a solid single paragraph is usually enough for me. As long as it looks like it has had thought and effort put in by the rper. If you dont have the intention of adding to the roleplaying experience, then frankly you really shouldnt join the rp. (Or express interest in joining.)

(Im using "you" here generally. I dont mean literally you Zeirulious lol)

Oh don't worry, I understand you were using the general 'you' and not the singular 'you.'

And honestly, the people that such a rule would alienate are the exact people you DON'T want in an RP, as the only thing worse then people who make short novellas each post (and expect others to do the same because they think it means they're "good" at RPing)

I think this might be the most effort I've ever put into a CS
(granted, I've only made four before this)

You'll be fine.

 

[Zenpai]

I just want my CS to be good enough to my liking. and also I have low self esteem and i'm terrified of peer review, so there's that.

 

[Thalia_Neko]

Oh don't worry, I understand you were using the general 'you' and not the singular 'you.'

And honestly, the people that such a rule would alienate are the exact people you DON'T want in an RP, as the only thing worse then people who make short novellas each post (and expect others to do the same because they think it means they're "good" at RPing)



You'll be fine.

mhm mhm :>
and right, thats what i was saying! XD

I just want my CS to be good enough to my liking. and also I have low self esteem and i'm terrified of peer review, so there's that.

aww D: no need to be terrified! D:

 

[Zenpai]

it is up

 

[Thalia_Neko]

Zenpai
Few things, not necessarily things that need to be fixed, more.. explained or nitpicks.

First off, he doesnt sound like hes rank 13. (That one probably does need to be changed)
The mark on his throat is kinda weird, whys it there?
The real-person pic is also a bit unusual and jarring, but eh.
Seduction Magic seems a bit op in practice, how does it work on other players who dont necessarily want you seducing their character? Just a question.
(Also how does his blood mingle with another person? Ew!)


I LIKE the male lust/desire demon pic, thats pretty neat and different haha
Its interesting hes scared of people betraying him and such, when he literally has a magic that makes them basically do that haha

How did he grow up miserable? Or why I guess. Did his family like literally hate him and treat him like garbage. Is there a reason behind that? Or they just did?

How and why did he "contract a demon at 18". You made it sound as if the demon contacted him, which is fine, but is there any particular reason it did so? Demons dont generally just help out, for no reason. Tho they can sometimes I suppose. Just a bit odd.

Also in general making a contract is for the person's benefit. Not the demon's (or well, it is to the demon's benefit, but its a contract to like.. keep them in check haha). So what was the contract? Why would the demon just bind himself to a random person? Demons dont usually do that for no real reason. If you arent sure what the contract is, or you want to keep it a secret, thats fine, but it isnt just some random thing. What Im trying to say, is the demon should be in a contract with a promise that would benefit the demon in some way. Unless this demon is just.. super duper nice for some reason lol.

 

[Zenpai]

sorry I was still kinda confused about the rank thing, so I just picked a random number that was available >.< (will 17 work? still unsure about pretty much everything)
The mark on the neck was the first place that popped into my head, and I decided on the throat because it is like a tender place. I could also do the back of the neck, that was my second option.
also I have a thing planned as for why the demon did what he did, I will try to make it apparent.
the thing with the blood is if he bleeds onto a wound or someone is injected with his blood.
I basically chose seduction magic because of the lack of love he felt for most of his life.
The thing with his family is that the didn't love him, or want him. It was supposed to be sorta like they were disappointed in him, but he has no clue why.
(sorry I took an hour to reply, I had a family thing to take care of.)

 

[Thalia_Neko]

sorry I was still kinda confused about the rank thing, so I just picked a random number that was available >.< (will 17 work? still unsure about pretty much everything)
The mark on the neck was the first place that popped into my head, and I decided on the throat because it is like a tender place. I could also do the back of the neck, that was my second option.
also I have a thing planned as for why the demon did what he did, I will try to make it apparent.
the thing with the blood is if he bleeds onto a wound or someone is injected with his blood.
I basically chose seduction magic because of the lack of love he felt for most of his life.
The thing with his family is that the didn't love him, or want him. It was supposed to be sorta like they were disappointed in him, but he has no clue why.
(sorry I took an hour to reply, I had a family thing to take care of.)

Well im just saying the lower the rank the stronger the sage/witch. Your character as a strong ability, but doesnt seem particularly strong. It strikes me as around mid 20s at highest for a rank. But possibly (probably) lower than that? Its up to you where you want your rank, as long as it makes some sense.
Well, I just meant... take my character. Letitia, her symbol is a pin she wears on her top. So yeah, I was just wondering why it was on his neck.

Okay if theres a reason for the demon contract, thats cool.

Thats so gross. But its fine too. ><

Neat okay.

Kk, got it :>

its all good!

 

[Zenpai]

Also, is there a way for the witch/sage to communicate with the demon they’re in contract with, or maybe a way for them to appear to the witch/sage?

 

[Thalia_Neko]

Also, is there a way for the witch/sage to communicate with the demon they’re in contract with, or maybe a way for them to appear to the witch/sage?

they can communicate yea, but what do you mean by that last question?

 

[Zenpai]

Manifest to the witch/sages eyes. Not necessarily cross over, just... present themselves.

 

[Thalia_Neko]

Manifest to the witch/sages eyes. Not necessarily cross over, just... present themselves.

uhmmm... idk, i did intend to introduce something similar to this in the rp, and in the lore thread it does mention "possession" which is basically this idea

but like, i duno if you are meaning to like.. just randomly abuse this idea often, or if you mean like it happens from time to time? cuz yea possession is a thing, if thats what youre referring to

 

[Zenpai]

I don’t mean taking control, I meant just letting their contract holder see them, and interact. Like have you ever seen one of those sci-fi things where they have the holograms, but the other person isn’t really there? That’s what I mean. The witch/sage can see the demon, and talk, but the demon can’t affect anything physically.

 

[Thalia_Neko]

I don’t mean taking control, I meant just letting their contract holder see them, and interact. Like have you ever seen one of those sci-fi things where they have the holograms, but the other person isn’t really there? That’s what I mean. The witch/sage can see the demon, and talk, but the demon can’t affect anything physically.

hmm im not sure, i think they could hear the demon, but maybe not see them

 

[Sizniche]

Thalia_Neko it's going to take me a day or two to read the IC so far and catch up, so I won't have my character submitted until then. I'll be active in the OOC just so you know I'm still here though :^)

 

[Thalia_Neko]

Thalia_Neko it's going to take me a day or two to read the IC so far and catch up, so I won't have my character submitted until then. I'll be active in the PIC just so you know I'm still here though :^)

youre going to read all of the ic? wow gl! and mkay mkay ^^

 

[SilentRain]

I don’t mean taking control, I meant just letting their contract holder see them, and interact. Like have you ever seen one of those sci-fi things where they have the holograms, but the other person isn’t really there? That’s what I mean. The witch/sage can see the demon, and talk, but the demon can’t affect anything physically.

hmm im not sure, i think they could hear the demon, but maybe not see them

On this topic, my personal input is that they wouldn't be able to manifest physically without the before mentioned 'possession' or for lack of a vessel that could withstand the power of their true essence. For the case of being able to talk to and see them. You could take inspiration from the show Bleach, in which they could communicate with their contracted spirit/demon inside their own mental mindspace in person. While they wouldn't manifest in the outside world, it would allow you to talk face to face inside your spiritual plane in which you allow them to reside and give you power in return for fulfilling your deal/promise with said demon. Anyway, it would be up to Thalia_Neko for how its interpreted in this case Zenpai

I think that's the issue right there though. Not everyone can write 2 or 3 paragraphs per post, hell most people I've seen in RPs have struggled with even one paragraph. So seeing an RP where the average is 5 or 6 paragraphs kind of alienates those who might be interested.

Now, I understand the desire for wanting literate players in an RP, especially ones like this one, but instituing post length limits will only cause the RP to die from people taking too long to post, or because massive posts (Like ones I've seen in this very RP...) causes a lot of potential players from not bothering. Hell, even I rarely join an RP that requires people to have certain post lengths or more.

Equating post length with a persons literacy is a ridiculous idea at best, and egotistical at worst.

Now as I said before, this was just my personal opinion. I understand that some people struggle with writing. I've been roleplaying for quite a few years now, and I've faced the same issues hundreds of times, but honestly after all this time I've come to a consensus on why people place a post limit, and its not just to increase length. Because length doesn't indicate the skill of the writer. They want more story. As I told Thalia_Neko I constantly am going back and re-reading my posts to fix my own errors. I've never once said I was a good writer, or that length mattered. Please don't make assumptions to the words I say, I'm not being rude. If you took it that way, that's your opinion. But once again, PLEASE don't make assumptions as to what I'm saying and So since I wasn't entirely clear I'll just do a point by point why I said what I said. Now warning, I'm only once again doing this to explain my opinion which as follows.

The reason why In my opinion a paragraph is easy to write.

1. If we are going by the standard format of a paragraph. It is typically a minimum of 5 sentences with a maximum of 8 usually. The structure includes an introductory sentences that sets the tone for a paragraph. It is usually an action/reaction/statement/question/character exposition or continues on explaining information from the previous paragraph in more detail. So for an example I'm just going to write a small sample paragraph.

(1) After coming home from school today, Molly decided to take her dog Zeus for a walk. (2) Going to the front door, Molly grabbed Zeus's collar before hollering " Zeus, wanna go for a walk?" (3) From the living room down the hall the clatter of nails scratching the linoleum floor could be heard as Zeus spiritedly ran to Molly. (4) After taking a second to hook Zeus up to his leash, Molly opened the front door and almost tripped as Zeus bolted forward, ripping the leash from her hand. (5) Watching her dog dash down the street, Molly sighed and muttered "It's really turning out to be one of those days..." before taking off after him.

This is a common paragraph following the structure I mentioned as above. Technically I could break up one or two sentences into 2 more sentences with a little more work, but for the most part with one or two run on sentences. As you can see I set the tone with sentence (1) by stating what she was going to do. The rest is just what happens leading up to completing the action mentioned. Now I understand that this isn't like our role play for the most part, but the execution remains the same. Your first paragraph will set the tone for the rest of them, each building off of the last.

2. This is a Roleplay. We are our characters so to speak. Thus they are human (or demon too in this case), but nonetheless. What are they thinking? What are they feeling? What are they doing? What do they see? How can we interact with those around us? Again In my opinion we are only limited by ourselves and what we are willing to strive for.

The only reason I wanted more length is because I want to see characters thrive in this wonderful, magical world that we are exploring together. I want to know and understand who they are. I want to see what they are like, I want to be able to relate. I want to know a little bit more about the 'children' we have created for this story. I want to make a bit of true magic between our writings. A story that we can be proud of. I know it sounds like too much too ask for and that it probably is, but a man can dream right? A little bit more length can help require to think a bit more deeply about how their character interacts with the world around them, or give a glimpse into their past. Maybe it is a bit much of an unrealistic expectation, but as I said before. A man can dream lol.

So I apologize if I came off the wrong way earlier, but I'm not great with words half the time and I can only get out how I feel by addressing everything I felt. However I really do hope we can get along in the future as before. It doesn't matter if there is a requirement in the end or not. I just wish it could be a goal to strive for. In the end it doesn't matter anyway lol, its not my decision

 

[Zenpai]

With the whole reading the ic thing, I tried. I got to a little bit after the battle with Ao Meira and then I was like “I can’t really do this right now” and I just made a post.

 

[Thalia_Neko]

With the whole reading the ic thing, I tried. I got to a little bit after the battle with Ao Meira and then I was like “I can’t really do this right now” and I just made a post.

thats all cool, i dont expect new peeps to read the whole thing lol