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RaynaFon said:
I'll work on something soon, busy right now, will be free in a few minutes
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In America, you're always free.
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Summer Breeze said:
Understandable... I feel sorry for you guys that you are stuck with him... Oh well, time for someone to put all those legal guns to good use ;)

Just kidding, just kidding, I'm not that bad XD
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I actually legit would just to make a point to democrats, since I'm a libertarian
 
Sizniche said:
I actually legit would just to make a point to democrats, since I'm a libertarian
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I honestly don't understand why people think that giving everyone a gun would make a place safer... I tried to talk about it with someone but all he could say *cough cough* shout *cough* was that you could use them to protect yourself but... It seems to me that when no one has a gun you wouldn't have to protect yourself as desperately. And if you really must, grab a kitchen knife... Oh well, it's the land of the free and guns are freedome. (?)
 
Summer Breeze said:
I honestly don't understand why people think that giving everyone a gun would make a place safer... I tried to talk about it with someone but all he could say *cough cough* shout *cough* was that you could use them to protect yourself but... It seems to me that when no one has a gun you wouldn't have to protect yourself as desperately. And if you really must, grab a kitchen knife... Oh well, it's the land of the free and guns are freedome. (?)
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Idk, I don't think anyone but the military needs them. I mean look at Japan, it may have it's bad spots, but it's way safer than the US and it outlaws firearms
 
Summer Breeze said:
I honestly don't understand why people think that giving everyone a gun would make a place safer... I tried to talk about it with someone but all he could say *cough cough* shout *cough* was that you could use them to protect yourself but... It seems to me that when no one has a gun you wouldn't have to protect yourself as desperately. And if you really must, grab a kitchen knife... Oh well, it's the land of the free and guns are freedome. (?)
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It's a cultural issue. The rebellion mentality is deeply ingrained into American culture. After all, rebellion happened twice, and nearly succeeded the second time. Besides, it's comforting to know that I can defend myself. But, that's just my opinion, and I respectfully disagree.
 
Sizniche said:
It's a cultural issue. The rebellion mentality is deeply ingrained into American culture. After all, rebellion happened twice, and nearly succeeded the second time. Besides, it's comforting to know that I can defend myself. But, that's just my opinion, and I respectfully disagree.
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Yea, it's part of the culture and I understand that. I also understand that defending yourself is nice, and guns are pretty cool sometimes, as long as everyone who has them in their hand is 101% mentally stable XD

RaynaFon said:
Idk, I don't think anyone but the military needs them. I mean look at Japan, it may have it's bad spots, but it's way safer than the US and it outlaws firearms
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Here they are illegal aswell, and it's really nice and safe here ^~^
 
RaynaFon said:
Idk, I don't think anyone but the military needs them. I mean look at Japan, it may have it's bad spots, but it's way safer than the US and it outlaws firearms
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I guess the boldest measures are the safest
 
RaynaFon said:
I guess, but idk, honestly it may just be a mindset thing like you say.
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I just quoted Lord Regent regime propaganda from Dishonored.

That was a low blow, I'm sorry. But in all seriousness, outlawing guns would be a political catastrophe of unparalleled proportions. Maybe someday, when the old guard like me becomes a dying breed, such a world can be possible. Until then, nothing can be done.
 
Sizniche said:
I just quoted Lord Regent regime propaganda from Dishonored.

That was a low blow, I'm sorry. But in all seriousness, outlawing guns would be a political catastrophe of unparalleled proportions. Maybe someday, when the old guard like me becomes a dying breed, such a world can be possible. Until then, nothing can be done.
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Well, I mean we could speed up the process heh>.>
 
Sizniche said:
I just quoted Lord Regent regime propaganda from Dishonored.

That was a low blow, I'm sorry. But in all seriousness, outlawing guns would be a political catastrophe of unparalleled proportions. Maybe someday, when the old guard like me becomes a dying breed, such a world can be possible. Until then, nothing can be done.
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Hmm... I'm genuenly curious though, why do you like them so much? What do you think is so great about guns and why would it be such a diseaster if they would be outlawd? Not judging or anything, I'm just curious since I've never completely understood it since it doesn't really fit into my culture ^~^
 
Summer Breeze said:
Hmm... I'm genuenly curious though, why do you like them so much? What do you think is so great about guns and why would it be such a diseaster if they would be outlawd? Not judging or anything, I'm just curious since I've never completely understood it since it doesn't really fit into my culture ^~^
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Why I like them:

Their presence makes me feel safe, since I am not a murderous sociopath.
If you know anything about America, you'd know that police are basically the devil, so I wouldn't trust them to save my life in an emergency even on the best of days. Plus, response time is 10 minutes on average.
Guns in America are the only thing keeping Il Duce Trump from storming through America and claiming dictatorship.

Why it would be a disaster:

To outlaw guns, you'd have to do a gun grab. THIS WOULD BE GROUNDS FOR REVOLUTION ALONE FOR SOME PEOPLE. Best case scenario, the government stops the grab and the only casualties are a few police that were sent to fetch guns. Guns stay legal; nothing is gained. Worst case scenario, the bloodiest internal conflict in world history. There's a reason automatic weapons made before a certain point are legal; there was literally no way for the government to seize them when automatic weapons were made illegal without causing absolute anarchy. Yes, that's how serious we are about guns.
 
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Sizniche said:
You do realize you're suggesting a political purge that would put Stalin to shame, right
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Oh...I have a lot of things to suggest...some I don't take so seriously because I'm just messing around...others...weeellll....we'll leave it at that.

Sizniche said:
Why I like them:

Their presence makes me feel safe, since I am not a murderous sociopath.
If you know anything about America, you'd know that police are basically the devil, so I wouldn't trust them to save my life in an emergency even on the best of days. Plus, response time is 10 minutes on average.
Guns in America are the only think keeping Il Duce Trump from storming through America and claiming dictatorship.

Why it would be a disaster:

To outlaw guns, you'd have to do a gun grab. THIS WOULD BE GROUNDS FOR REVOLUTION ALONE FOR SOME PEOPLE. Best case scenario, the government stops the grab and the only casualties are a few police that were sent to fetch guns. Guns stay legal; nothing is gained. Worst case scenario, the bloodiest internal conflict in world history. There's a reason automatic weapons made before a certain point are legal; there was literally no way for the government to seize them when automatic weapons were made illegal without causing absolute anarchy. Yes, that's how serious we are about guns.
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not every policeman is a bad guy. I really wish people would stop lump every bad story together and calling all the police "evil" or 'racist' when you know full well it's not true. Some actually want to make a difference
 
Sizniche said:
Why I like them:

Their presence makes me feel safe, since I am not a murderous sociopath.
If you know anything about America, you'd know that police are basically the devil, so I wouldn't trust them to save my life in an emergency even on the best of days. Plus, response time is 10 minutes on average.
Guns in America are the only think keeping Il Duce Trump from storming through America and claiming dictatorship.

Why it would be a disaster:

To outlaw guns, you'd have to do a gun grab. THIS WOULD BE GROUNDS FOR REVOLUTION ALONE FOR SOME PEOPLE. Best case scenario, the government stops the grab and the only casualties are a few police that were sent to fetch guns. Guns stay legal; nothing is gained. Worst case scenario, the bloodiest internal conflict in world history. There's a reason automatic weapons made before a certain point are legal; there was literally no way for the government to seize them when automatic weapons were made illegal without causing absolute anarchy. Yes, that's how serious we are about guns.
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Allright, I see, never really looked at it from that point of view. I still stand by my point that they should be illegal but I see why it would be a problem to do it just in a snap. Also because most people I ever asked this already started yelling when I used guns and illegal in one sentence XD
But are the police really that bad over there? I almost can't believe that, it's a modern, western country, how can they possibly be that terrible?
 
RaynaFon said:
Oh...I have a lot of things to suggest...some I don't take so seriously because I'm just messing around...others...weeellll....we'll leave it at that.



not every policeman is a bad guy. I really wish people would stop lump every bad story together and calling all the police "evil" or 'racist' when you know full well it's not true. Some actually want to make a difference
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I know, most cops are good guys, and I never said anything about race, but a few bad apples ruin the bunch. Just like guns.

Cops in America kill three or four people every day. One or two on a good day and a half a dozen in a rough day. A lot of it has to do with the fact that America is a crime infested cesspit because of the INSANE class divide, so I can't blame them for fearing for their lives, by something needs to be done about police brutality in America. Not racism in the police force, police brutality in general.

EDIT: that's a nationwide number, by the way. Not as bad as it sounds, but well above average in the modern world

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Summer Breeze said:
But are the police really that bad over there? I almost can't believe that, it's a modern, western country, how can they possibly be that terrible?
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They aren't. There's been a few bad things at have happened in the past in this country, and a few bad things have been happening in recent years and now everyone is losing their shit, as is the norm in this place now.
 
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