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[Sizniche]

They aren't. There's been a few bad things at have happened in the past in this country, and a few bad things have been happening in recent years and now everyone is losing their shit, as is the norm in this place now.

It's why unbiased discussion on literally anything in America is impossible. Everything information-wise you hear on anything is emotionally charged. "Guns did this, cops did this, Muslims did this."

 

[RaynaFon]

I know, most cops are good guys, and I never said anything about race, but a few bad apples ruin the bunch. Just like guns.

Cops in America kill three or four people every day. One or two on a good day and a half a dozen in a rough day. A lot of it has to do with the fact that America is a crime infested cesspit because of the INSANE class divide, so I can't blame them for fearing for their lives, by something needs to be done about police brutality in America. Not racism in the police force, police brutality in general.

Summer Breeze

It's not going to be fixed until we start at the root of the problem, that that the head of the stations. Place that had chiefs that give a shit have lower problems than the ones that don't....and they keep getting put in office because it's all political, which won't change until the way goverment is run does, which just leads to a downward spiral.

 

[RaynaFon]

It's why unbiased discussion on literally anything in America is impossible. Everything information-wise you hear on anything is emotionally charged. "Guns did this, cops did this, Muslims did this."

Or the best of them...*insert random fast food place here* made me fat. .....No, no it didn't....you made yourself fat by constantly eating even though you knew it wasn't healthy...deal with it.

 

[Summer Breeze]

I know, most cops are good guys, and I never said anything about race, but a few bad apples ruin the bunch. Just like guns.

Cops in America kill three or four people every day. One or two on a good day and a half a dozen in a rough day. A lot of it has to do with the fact that America is a crime infested cesspit because of the INSANE class divide, so I can't blame them for fearing for their lives, by something needs to be done about police brutality in America. Not racism in the police force, police brutality in general.

EDIT: that's a nationwide number, by the way. Not as bad as it sounds, but well above average in the modern world

Summer Breeze

Aha, I see why you'd be a bit weary of the police there. Over here the police needs to have VERY good reasons to hurt someone and most don't even have guns on them, a stick to bump someone on the head at most XD but, that's another extreme on the scale, here I think they can act a little harder sometimes, they're much too friendly...

 

[Sizniche]

It's not going to be fixed until we start at the root of the problem, that that the head of the stations. Place that had chiefs that give a shit have lower problems than the ones that don't....and they keep getting put in office because it's all political, which won't change until the way goverment is run does, which just leads to a downward spiral.

Exactly. This is objectively correct. The problem is your exact perception of the issue and how you see it. Since there's so many changes that need to be done, and congress can only do them one at a time, and no one in congress is on the same page, nothing fits right.

Or the best of them...*insert random fast food place here* made me fat. .....No, no it didn't....you made yourself fat by constantly eating even though you knew it wasn't healthy...deal with it.

To be perfectly fair, with so many people so poor in America, fast food is sometimes the only thing a working man can afford. Luckily, my town has a great, super-cheap diner that produces reasonably healthy food.

Aha, I see why you'd be a bit weary of the police there. Over here the police needs to have VERY good reasons to hurt someone and most don't even have guns on them, a stick to bump someone on the head at most XD but, that's another extreme on the scale, here I think they can act a little harder sometimes, they're much too friendly...

To be fair, it's not like it's absolutely pervasive, my small town hasn't had a cop kill anyone yet.

 

[Summer Breeze]

Exactly. This is objectively correct. The problem is your exact perception of the issue and how you see it. Since there's so many changes that need to be done, and congress can only do them one at a time, and no one in congress is on the same page, nothing fits right.


To be perfectly fair, with so many people so poor in America, fast food is sometimes the only thing a working man can afford. Luckily, my town has a great, super-cheap diner that produces reasonably healthy food.


To be fair, it's not like it's absolutely pervasive, my small town hasn't had a cop kill anyone yet.

Hehe, that's another part I don't understand completely, why all the fast food? Isn't it much cheaper to cook everything yourself? We do that in my home and it's not that expensive. less expensive as buying fast food every day. But I don't know, maybe it just works differently over there...

 

[Sizniche]

Hehe, that's another part I don't understand completely, why all the fast food? Isn't it much cheaper to cook everything yourself? We do that in my home and it's not that expensive. less expensive as buying fast food every day. But I don't know, maybe it just works differently over there...

Often, the poorest in America have to work 12 hours a day just to keep the family afloat. Making meals isn't ideal. Fast food is easy and cheap, even though it's unhealthy. It is probably a lot different in France though, because France actually has a system for not wasting food.

Man, this is turning out to be a list of reason why America sucks.

 

[RaynaFon]

Hehe, that's another part I don't understand completely, why all the fast food? Isn't it much cheaper to cook everything yourself? We do that in my home and it's not that expensive. less expensive as buying fast food every day. But I don't know, maybe it just works differently over there...

Oh no, you see it's the opposite here. Fresh food cost more to produce than it does to make pre made 'food', or to got to a fast food place and order something fried. Not to meantion that the way the make it makes your taste buds wwnt more because it stimulates them

 

[RaynaFon]

Often, the poorest in America have to work 12 hours a day just to keep the family afloat. Making meals isn't ideal. Fast food is easy and cheap, even though it's unhealthy. It is probably a lot different in France though, because France actually has a system for not wasting food.

Man, this is turning out to be a list of reason why America sucks.

I thought summer was from there Netherlands?

 

[Sizniche]

I thought summer was from there Netherlands?

Crap, maybe, I dunno, I haven't talked to her as much as you

 

[Quinlan63]

She is

 

[Sizniche]

She is

From the Netherlands?

 

[Quinlan63]

From the Netherlands?

Yep she told me when we started the Rp

 

[RaynaFon]

Tbh, I think it's just America, like every other empire the world has seen, is finally collapsing on itself. Scary, for the people living in it at the time for sure, but, it's a relatively peaceful time for it, which is a good thing. Now if we had the leadership to transition that to minimize the damages and start us back on the path to recovery

 

[Sizniche]

Tbh, I think it's just America, like every other empire the world has seen, is finally collapsing on itself. Scary, for the people living in it at the time for sure, but, it's a relatively peaceful time for it, which is a good thing. Now if we had the leadership to transition that to minimize the damages and start us back on the path to recovery

America IS modern Rome, so this is likely going to end in civil war. To be honest, that would actually probably be best, since at this point splitting is the only way to settle our ideological differences and give as many people the country they want as possible. The nightmare of it would probably be figuring out how to divide territories

 

[Sizniche]

RaynaFon Summer Breeze I severely regret pulling the trigger on this discussion. The last thing you want to talk about with friends is politics.

 

[RaynaFon]

RaynaFon Summer Breeze I severely regret pulling the trigger on this discussion. The last thing you want to talk about with friends is politics.

Eh, like I said, I like a good debate or conversation. I just don't like when I piss off one of my friends and I don't know why

 

[Summer Breeze]

Often, the poorest in America have to work 12 hours a day just to keep the family afloat. Making meals isn't ideal. Fast food is easy and cheap, even though it's unhealthy. It is probably a lot different in France though, because France actually has a system for not wasting food.

Man, this is turning out to be a list of reason why America sucks.

wow, that's harsh... but yea, I always forget that America doesn't have a system like over here where people can only work for so many hours a day, high minum wage and if you have no job you still get money, you also need to have a health insurance and when you retire you also get money, and you have extra money you get when you have kids aswell.... we pay a lot of taxes (more as 50% of our money, plus 21% on everything we buy) but you do get it back.

Oh no, you see it's the opposite here. Fresh food cost more to produce than it does to make pre made 'food', or to got to a fast food place and order something fried. Not to meantion that the way the make it makes your taste buds wwnt more because it stimulates them

he, my taste buds don't want more, I really dislike fast food XD

I thought summer was from there Netherlands?

yea, I'm a dutch person (dutchy? dutchistany? dutchlander? netherlander? netherlandish? heck, is there even a word for a dutch person in english? we call ourselves 'Nederlander' but for some reason english wants us to be dutch, which doesn't make sense since the country is called 'the netherlands'... oh well... english is weird XD)
I understand the confusion though, since I play a french character, but europe is about as big as Texas so it's very easy to know a lot about other countries since you hop in the car and you're in another country in an hour XD

RaynaFon Summer Breeze I severely regret pulling the trigger on this discussion. The last thing you want to talk about with friends is politics.

talking about politics can be nice if everyone stays polite and openminded, but if you want to stop talking about it I'll shut up now ^~^

 

[Sizniche]

Eh, like I said, I like a good debate or conversation. I just don't like when I piss off one of my friends and I don't know why

It helps to not suggest Stalin-esque purges

I kid, I kid, I know you were joking. I hope.

I really don't want to die.

wow, that's harsh... but yea, I always forget that America doesn't have a system like over here where people can only work for so many hours a day, high minum wage and if you have no job you still get money, you also need to have a health insurance and when you retire you also get money, and you have extra money you get when you have kids aswell.... we pay a lot of taxes (more as 50% of our money, plus 21% on everything we buy) but you do get it back.


he, my taste buds don't want more, I really dislike fast food XD


yea, I'm a dutch person (dutchy? dutchistany? dutchlander? netherlander? netherlandish? heck, is there even a word for a dutch person in english? we call ourselves 'Nederlander' but for some reason english wants us to be dutch, which doesn't make sense since the country is called 'the netherlands'... oh well... english is weird XD)



talking about politics can be nice if everyone stays polite and openminded, but if you want to stop talking about it I'll shut up now ^~^

Personally never been a fan of social democracy. I think capitalism could have worked if we effectively ended croneyism, and incentivized work more. But, as it is, we'd have to adopt the kind of taxes you pay just to break even on debt.

 

[Sizniche]

wow, that's harsh... but yea, I always forget that America doesn't have a system like over here where people can only work for so many hours a day, high minum wage and if you have no job you still get money, you also need to have a health insurance and when you retire you also get money, and you have extra money you get when you have kids aswell.... we pay a lot of taxes (more as 50% of our money, plus 21% on everything we buy) but you do get it back.


he, my taste buds don't want more, I really dislike fast food XD


yea, I'm a dutch person (dutchy? dutchistany? dutchlander? netherlander? netherlandish? heck, is there even a word for a dutch person in english? we call ourselves 'Nederlander' but for some reason english wants us to be dutch, which doesn't make sense since the country is called 'the netherlands'... oh well... english is weird XD)
I understand the confusion though, since I play a french character, but europe is about as big as Texas so it's very easy to know a lot about other countries since you hop in the car and you're in another country in an hour XD



talking about politics can be nice if everyone stays polite and openminded, but if you want to stop talking about it I'll shut up now ^~^

Also, Americans really kinda have the same problem, as we catch shit all the time for calling ourselves "Americans", since the Americas are actually two whole continents, one of which The States has no territory in. But United Statesian feels forced, and "America" is in the name.

 

[Summer Breeze]

It helps to not suggest Stalin-esque purges

I kid, I kid, I know you were joking. I hope.

I really don't want to die.


Personally never been a fan of social democracy. I think capitalism could have worked if we effectively ended croneyism, and incentivized work more. But, as it is, we'd have to adopt the kind of taxes you pay just to break even on debt.

well, socialism, or a 'care state', is THE thing that defines the 'dutch Identity' which is kinda like 'everyone is accepted, the government takes care of the people from the moment they are born untill they die'. I'm used to this system, and i like it a lot since it's very safe and helps the weakest from the society. no one has to live on the streets, but some chose to... and there are some illegal people who also live on the streets but we can't throw them out because we can't force anyone to go away (except for that Turkish minister... but that is a different story)

 

[Sizniche]

Summer Breeze Also, America has about the same land space as Europe, but I understand the feel, because every state is (supposed to be) like another country. There is a distinct difference between culture in California cities vs rural Pennsylvania. Believe me, I've lived in both.

 

[RaynaFon]

wow, that's harsh... but yea, I always forget that America doesn't have a system like over here where people can only work for so many hours a day, high minum wage and if you have no job you still get money, you also need to have a health insurance and when you retire you also get money, and you have extra money you get when you have kids aswell.... we pay a lot of taxes (more as 50% of our money, plus 21% on everything we buy) but you do get it back.


he, my taste buds don't want more, I really dislike fast food XD


yea, I'm a dutch person (dutchy? dutchistany? dutchlander? netherlander? netherlandish? heck, is there even a word for a dutch person in english? we call ourselves 'Nederlander' but for some reason english wants us to be dutch, which doesn't make sense since the country is called 'the netherlands'... oh well... english is weird XD)
I understand the confusion though, since I play a french character, but europe is about as big as Texas so it's very easy to know a lot about other countries since you hop in the car and you're in another country in an hour XD



talking about politics can be nice if everyone stays polite and openminded, but if you want to stop talking about it I'll shut up now ^~^

Yeah, it's kinda weird, we have quite a sum of people we just put into being 'Dutch', part if it it's because Netherlander and the like sounds odd and another thing is I think we're just lazy.

 

[Sizniche]

well, socialism, or a 'care state', is THE thing that defines the 'dutch Identity' which is kinda like 'everyone is accepted, the government takes care of the people from the moment they are born untill they die'. I'm used to this system, and i like it a lot since it's very safe and helps the weakest from the society. no one has to live on the streets, but some chose to... and there are some illegal people who also live on the streets but we can't throw them out because we can't force anyone to go away (except for that Turkish minister... but that is a different story)

If it works, that's cool by me. That's why different countries exist, we all have different ways of dealing with ourselves.

 

[RaynaFon]

It helps to not suggest Stalin-esque purges

I kid, I kid, I know you were joking. I hope.

I really don't want to die.


Personally never been a fan of social democracy. I think capitalism could have worked if we effectively ended croneyism, and incentivized work more. But, as it is, we'd have to adopt the kind of taxes you pay just to break even on debt.

What...the government cares about breaking even on the debt?