Fandom Star Trek: Vigilance (OOC)

[Darkraven]

MechanicalSnake Epiphany

The issue wasn't that Fezzes didn't follow the rules initially, or that his time management ability is lacking. It's the attitude that accompanies his hesitance in following the rules and his lacking time management abilities. I can accept flaws, but I can't accept stubbornness and the unwillingness to learn. He challenged me, and gave an air of self-righteousness. If I allow him to continue like this indefinitely, he'll likely take advantage of this, push his weight around and slow down the RP by posting once every 8-14 days or something. That's how most RPs die slowly - by activity being throttled and OOC thrown into chaos.

I gave him the option to stay and redeem himself, and I would have forgiven and forgotten all this relatively quickly. This being a diversion and not real-life, everything between me and Fezzes would have been back to normal within days, provided that he doesn't burden the RP with his serious inadequacies and rebelliousness any longer. But of course, he remained stubborn and chose the coward's way out, destroying all possibility of learning, writing, and friendship.

Anyway, the consequences for Fezzes aren't severe. It's just a system I devised to remember who had ghosted on me or jeopardised any RP I'm in or created. Originally, there wasn't a 3-strike rule, and anyone who did any wrong would just be black-listed, but I've decided that people deserve second chances. In fact, I'm potentially giving more than 2 chances, as I will remove anyone from the grey/dark/black list if they didn't repeat their offense. Of course, if Fezzes ever express the desire to write with me again, he'd just have to justify his participation better - that's seriously all.

I won't take any exception to you guys stating your views. In fact, I encourage dialogue, unlike some GMs. That's what I tried to do with Fezzes, but I guess he's 17 and still has a long way to go. Can't expect all adolescents to be precocious.

My only concern is that I'm being put on a 'list' for doing my job and looking out for my own RP and the participants in it who are actually willing to go all out for it. It reminds me of my hesitance in the beginning to start an RP in the first place, rather than just reserve my writing exclusively for my own projects, where my creative output and decisions aren't constantly threatened by unprofessional antics on the part of some. I would be lying if I don't feel a little misunderstood. In fact, I would be lying if I'm not saddened.

But I would like all of you to know that I don't hold any grudges.

 

[MechanicalSnake]

I understand completely. If I were a GM and politely reminded someone of what they should be doing, and they told me off instead of taking my words into consideration, I would also see no other option that asking them to go or change their behavior. I was just questioning the need to put them on a blacklist of some kind, but if the strike thing really means "I will be wary of this person the next time they want to be involved in any game of mine" then that is only logical.

 

[Darkraven]

I'm honestly surprised because I thought I've explained myself clearly:

How disappointing, but at least you have the courtesy not to create more drama here. As such, I'm going to throw you into the grey list rather than the dark list or black list (i.e You get 1 strike rather than 2 or a straight ban). You should expect difficulty in ever entering any RPs I create, resistance if we happen to be in the same RPs, and information about your misdemeanor will be freely shared with other GMs.

I didn't 'ban' him or anything. I put him in a 'grey list' rather than a 'black list'. I was just telling him that there were consequences, and perfectly justifiable ones. I don't think anyone could RP with a person who had wronged them or ghosted on them with a sincere smile. The only difference is that I made it semi-official.

In fact, I was once kicked out of an RP for no reason at all, because the GM 'heard from a friend' that I wasn't a good choice for a roleplayer. I try to avoid such severe reactions. I try not to push my weight around, I try to talk rather than make 'kingly' proclamations (its common for GMs to state that they're God/the King and always right because they're always right), I gave the offending party a choice, and I have a 3-strike system (which is simple to get out of - just give me one good game) rather than a permanent condemnation & ban system (with no way out).

But of course, it's harder to do the right thing, even when RPs all around me are falling apart on a regular and frequent basis. No good deed goes unpunished.

EDIT: To add, real life takes precedence, which is why everyone is supposed to consider seriously if they could afford an RP. That is why I frickin' join only one or two RPs at any one time with some serious consideration of the schedules ahead. Because I know that if I overload myself, I'd be causing something like 3-10 RPs to potentially fail, affecting anything between 10-60 people to lose an outlet for distraction (I only join groups). It's all about basic courtesy.

 

[MechanicalSnake]

In my experience, people always let you down ad everything falls apart eventually. I´ve beein RPing for 15 years off and on so I have seen it all. But that´s no reason not to enjoy it while it lasts.

 

[Darkraven]

In my experience, people always let you down ad everything falls apart eventually. I´ve beein RPing for 15 years off and on so I have seen it all. But that´s no reason not to enjoy it while it lasts.

So have I, but I personally believe it's because no one's doing anything about it. 'Evil triumphs when good people do nothing' and all that. Here, I'm just trying to do something that's against the grain of a culture that seems to be based on ghosting RPs on the fly. All my considerations so far has been for the long term, including the format of the RP, which is episodic to allow for actual completions and breaks if people need it.

 

[MechanicalSnake]

I really hope this was just a minor set back and the mission will be successful in the long run.

 

[Darkraven]

I really hope this was just a minor set back and the mission will be successful in the long run.

I just need time to calm down a bit. Another benefit of writing novels rather than RPs: You only get emotionally affected by fictional people, and only when you expected it or want it.

But I know why I went into RPs. Because writing stories can get lonely. I'm, by right, a social guy. All I'm saying is, I'm here to stay and I'm not giving up on this RP until I've become alone again.

 

[RPLongAndProsper]

Um.... *looks around* Is it any help if I say I am just about to post my CS?

 

[RPLongAndProsper]

Okay, regardless, I did it. Please, dont say it sucks, because this took me a lifetime to finish. O_O

 

[Darkraven]

Um.... *looks around* Is it any help if I say I am just about to post my CS?

Don't mind the mess. Happens whenever something out of the ordinary crops up. Your CS is very original and well written. Very current as well. I've approved it and you may post immediately.

 

[RPLongAndProsper]

Thank you! The fact that there is already a Vulcan forced me out of my comfort zone. But then I always found this species fascinating and wanted to give it a go one day.
I think I will go to bed immediately, so if I am too late in the main thread when I wake up, we will have to assume that my character was held up by... whoever they had picked up in the bar the night before.

 

[MechanicalSnake]

Well this is something I never thought Id get to see one day: Gackt in a starfleet uniform.
Damn, he would look hot even in a trash bag.

 

[Error 420]

Stop the presses I NEED to reply now. Give me thirty minutes. Tops.

 

[Darkraven]

Stop the presses I NEED to reply now. Give me thirty minutes. Tops.

LOL looks like you made a reservation a tad too late

 

[Error 420]

LOL looks like you made a reservation a tad too late

I'm responding to MechanicalSnake and Inactive User 002 so not yet.

 

[Error 420]

I was thinking of making a DDLC reference but I don't think it'd be one everyone would get:

"This crew... is full of incredibly cute girls!"

Epiphany Inactive User 002 if you'd rather Jack not be crushing hard on both of you just tell me and we'll fix it. I'm not trying to shove romance in the RP, I just thought it would be very fitting to Jack's character.

 

[MechanicalSnake]

Geeze Error, what are you doing, throwing my sentences in the replicator, shaking them up a bit and spitting them back out? LOL

 

[RPLongAndProsper]

Oh no, Inkwell used my excuse (getting drunk and having sex) for coming late. What am I going to do now. XD

 

[Darkraven]

This is going to be... Interesting. But I guess nymphomania should provide a counterbalance against the doom and gloom.

 

[Epiphany]

Thank you! The fact that there is already a Vulcan forced me out of my comfort zone. But then I always found this species fascinating and wanted to give it a go one day.
I think I will go to bed immediately, so if I am too late in the main thread when I wake up, we will have to assume that my character was held up by... whoever they had picked up in the bar the night before.

A J'nnai! And one that actually looks androgynous instead of all butch women! I can't wait to see what you do!

I was thinking of making a DDLC reference but I don't think it'd be one everyone would get:

"This crew... is full of incredibly cute girls!"

Epiphany Inactive User 002 if you'd rather Jack not be crushing hard on both of you just tell me and we'll fix it. I'm not trying to shove romance in the RP, I just thought it would be very fitting to Jack's character.

Do what makes sense to you and Kimberly will react accordingly. While she's not going out of her way to hook up, seven or so Kimberlys in her series are married so she's not at all unfamiliar with romance. Or just crushes for that matter! The larger complication will be if there ends up being any direct reporting responsibility. Fraternization with subordinates, etc. Unless that's not an issue, Darkraven ?

 

[Darkraven]

Fraternization with subordinates, etc. Unless that's not an issue, Darkraven ?

From what I've seen, it's not against protocol, but fraternizing with subordinates is a choice, though there are regulations, if I'm not wrong. Like, you obviously have to maintain professionalism at the workplace.

 

[MechanicalSnake]

Can anyone explain to me Jack´s gender? I have less problems getting oriented in the J'nnai than her (him?).

 

[RPLongAndProsper]

A J'nnai! And one that actually looks androgynous instead of all butch women! I can't wait to see what you do!

Ha! I was also a bit disappointed that they mostly looked like old butches, when there was so much potential. I guess the casting people didn´t know so many jrock singers like I do. XD

 

[Epiphany]

Can anyone explain to me Jack´s gender? I have less problems getting oriented in the J'nnai than her (him?).

Jack identifies as a woman, as far as I know. Gender's listed as female. Easy bet is to treat her as she presents herself until/if she corrects you. That's what I'm doing!

 

[MechanicalSnake]

Jack identifies as a woman, as far as I know. Gender's listed as female. Easy bet is to treat her as she presents herself until/if she corrects you. That's what I'm doing!

I did, but their own post (or two) is written in the viewpoint of "he", which confused me.