Zaramis
Senior Member
For Safim:
I just read up on the Mara theory, just for reference. The conditions under which Mara arrives to Brigid are the exact conditions that enables her entrance to the world ( Brigid is weeping for her lover into a pool of water ) and this IS confirmed in 2:nd edition rendering of the story, as described on page 10 of the Black and White Treatise.
One of the events she encounters in her journey is an endless, roaring mad desert. That's just a mildly suspect thing.
Then, she encounters ( in the west ) a man of silver hair and black robes, with a ship of orichalcum and ebony. It took her to the palace of this great prince He welcomed her and "the ocean lord spoke of the mighty Shapings of the Wyld wielded by the mad princes beyond Creation"
The idea that she at last met the Unconquered Sun could just be stories, just like these previous things. Still, there is a sidebar that specifies that this power that sorcery use is taken from the Gods and is NOT done with their permission. That the US can't affect what people do when they invoke his power in spells. "Many sorcerers believe their Great Art reveals nothing less than how the Primordials shaped Creation itself" is another quote. Aka: Sorcery is not given from the gods. Sorcery is something else entirely.
This is all from the 2nd ED White and Black Treatise.
More directly from the book: The Siderals believe that -their- first sorcerer got the power from wresting it from a demon. The Lunars have a story of another person, where grieving is also present. Grieving for a dead lover, just like Brigid, and the thing that causes Mara to arrive. They would not have put these things back in if they did not want it to resemble her.
I just read up on the Mara theory, just for reference. The conditions under which Mara arrives to Brigid are the exact conditions that enables her entrance to the world ( Brigid is weeping for her lover into a pool of water ) and this IS confirmed in 2:nd edition rendering of the story, as described on page 10 of the Black and White Treatise.
One of the events she encounters in her journey is an endless, roaring mad desert. That's just a mildly suspect thing.
Then, she encounters ( in the west ) a man of silver hair and black robes, with a ship of orichalcum and ebony. It took her to the palace of this great prince He welcomed her and "the ocean lord spoke of the mighty Shapings of the Wyld wielded by the mad princes beyond Creation"
The idea that she at last met the Unconquered Sun could just be stories, just like these previous things. Still, there is a sidebar that specifies that this power that sorcery use is taken from the Gods and is NOT done with their permission. That the US can't affect what people do when they invoke his power in spells. "Many sorcerers believe their Great Art reveals nothing less than how the Primordials shaped Creation itself" is another quote. Aka: Sorcery is not given from the gods. Sorcery is something else entirely.
This is all from the 2nd ED White and Black Treatise.
More directly from the book: The Siderals believe that -their- first sorcerer got the power from wresting it from a demon. The Lunars have a story of another person, where grieving is also present. Grieving for a dead lover, just like Brigid, and the thing that causes Mara to arrive. They would not have put these things back in if they did not want it to resemble her.