no that is fair, you know why? try playing a game where you've got people who have higher experience than you, you've got NONE and no weapons or items that can do any magic like the experienced players, and you're facing enemies at thier level, not a starting level. THATS not fair. and the point is, a good ST should not just care about one character, he should make the game for more than one person, not just about you, or either, one other person. exalted isnt a game where the ST favors one character and lets you get all the items, and no one else gets a fair game. no, that is not exalted, unless the ST is stupid.
I could see this point of view making sense to people who think you can somehow "win" role-playing games.
That's pretty silly. Â How the hell is someone supposed to control their life to the point of knowing exactly when they'll be able to start playing? Â You're being an ass if you do that: people have lives, work, families, and friends. Â Just because your game's not number one in their priorities list when you suggest it, they get penalized? Â And what if they didn't even know about the game before hand, and joined late because of that? Â Oh yeah, they should be weaker than everyone else, so they can die quicker.
Still, by "late" I think we meant like, several weeks, or months late in starting in with the group. Â It's happened to me that I really want to paly a game, but have no time, so I wait till later when I do and jump in the middle. Â Not 'cause I'm lazy, but because that's the way it is.Stillborn said:
thats perfectly fair. whats purchased at creation should not really offend anyone at all. there should be something in the characters history about how he got the powerful manse, but thats it.because EM is pissed that some one elses is more powerful than his, cause he bought it at creation, the reason why he is just, eludes me. and its even more complex for me to understand the EM had highest xp than the new characters, in fact double them. so the new guy didnt start weak or as powerful as EM. thats fair. maybe EM's logic is just on another level or totally different than mine, i just think its weird he gets angry and upset over a character legally buying a level five manse, with half of his own xp.
your ST even said he wasnt as powerful, he gave him HALF xp. he legally bought the node, or whatever, in character creation. you could have had it if you wanted it in the begining, too. so dont get pissed when some one gets something better cause they got it for cheaper at the character creation process. thats acting like a child, EM.[/i]
These two points are pretty much irrelevant to the discussion at hand. Â It really doesn't matter what the specifics of what he gave you are. Â The point is that you feel cheated because you feel that the other character should not have been able to take them. Â The question is 'Did Kei'ron specifically deny you the chance to take them or did you just not even consider them as an option. Â If the former, then the problem would be a case of bad STing as it's favouritism. Â If the latter then it's the players responsibility to request unusual items, it's not the ST's responsibility to tell you what you can take merely what you can't.
On the whole XP for new characters issue I tend to favour a middle ground of giving them some XP (generally about 50 - 70%) of what the highest character has. Â This then allows the older characters to feel that their work has some value without leaving the newer characters completely behind. Â I would also factor in how experienced the player was and how lethal the game is. Â The newer characters do not get to start with any other backgrounds than those chosen in character gen while the older characters have whatever they've picked up in game.
These two points are pretty much irrelevant to the discussion at hand. ÂÂShicato said:
same here.Stillborn said:
