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MrThe said:
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Sounds reasonable. Maybe have the suits that are completely functional be lowered to 40, 50, or 60. The rest should be like the NCR's salvaged power armor because there would be some damaging of the power armor/intentional destruction by BOS Paladins. You could have some of them be just taken from the wasteland in and around Salt Lake City as well. 
 
So I actually have 150 sets but 50 work 50 can be repaired and 50 can only be used for parts. I also gave them about 200 laser guns (is that too much?) I also gave them light mortars, and I'm surprised more don't use them in the wasteland after all they are extremely easy to produce being essentially just a metal tube and their ammunition is easy to produce as well as being able to fire basically any round. You could even make it so it could shoot a mini nuke. (which i did)
 
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MrThe said:
So I actually have 150 sets but 50 work 50 can be repaired and 50 can only be used for parts. I also gave them about 200 laser guns (is that too much?) I also gave them light mortars, and I'm surprised more don't use them in the wasteland after all they are extremely easy to produce being essentially just a metal tube and their ammunition is easy to produce as well as being able to fire basically any round. You could even make it so it could shoot a mini nuke. (which i did)
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Many wasteland communities can't forge metals or simply don't have the proper know-how.
 
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Yah but this one can, you see they send a lot of missionaries to the outside and they come back and bring back the skills they learned. Oh yah i ought to add that to the lore.
 
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MrThe said:
Yah but this one can, you see they send a lot of missionaries to the outside and they come back and bring back the skills they learned. Oh yah i ought to add that to the lore.
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Where do you find a mortar manufacturing expert?
 
You see mortars are basically a glorified pipe. To make one all you have to do is basically weld a steel plate to the bottom of a pipe.  If you want it to have an adjustable angle that too is simple, all you would have to do is make a sort of hinge that attaches to another steel plate. The ammunition is also fairly simple to manufacture, basically you create a cylinder full of explosives with some tail fins. To load a mortar you would first load the propellant an explosive set off by a pressure plate (kind of like a land mine except much smaller) then to fire you would drop the mortar round in the tube, the round would hit the propellant and get sent flying off at your enemy. If you know how to make the explosives then the mortar is probably one of the easiest things to manufacture in the wasteland.
 
MrThe said:
You see mortars are basically a glorified pipe. To make one all you have to do is basically weld a steel plate to the bottom of a pipe.  If you want it to have an adjustable angle that too is simple, all you would have to do is make a sort of hinge that attaches to another steel plate. The ammunition is also fairly simple to manufacture, basically you create a cylinder full of explosives with some tail fins. To load a mortar you would first load the propellant an explosive set off by a pressure plate (kind of like a land mine except much smaller) then to fire you would drop the mortar round in the tube, the round would hit the propellant and get sent flying off at your enemy. If you know how to make the explosives then the mortar is probably one of the easiest things to manufacture in the wasteland.
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Then how come the only people that have ever made anything close to that were the Minutemen? Which had a preexisting design to draw off for inspiration? Wastelanders don't have this knowledge. Neither do Vault Dwellers. You'll basically have to reinvent something your people wouldn't have known about. They've probably never seen artillery of any sort. I doubt Vault Tec or their mothers and fathers would be able to give that information either. You're saying that because something has always been sorta easy to make that people would still possess this knowledge.

MrThe said:
Hey do you think that we ought to start the Rp?
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I count two.
 
Eh then the answer as to where to find a mortar building expert would be the Minutemen if they have something similar. Perhaps a missionary saw that and figured hey I could make something like that. Or hey maybe they found some history book depicting a mortar and Jerry rigged something similar. There could be countless ways someone could rediscover that technology. Are you saying that there is no way anyone could think this up? I mean gosh dang it people figured out how to build a mini nuke that is shot by a giant slingshot! That was most certainly not some pre war tech, that was something an insane person built. Not only that but it seems that just about everyone can build a nuke but no one has figured out how to build a mortar? It is one of the most simply manufactured weapon you can make! Sorry I went on a little rant. And I guess that part about everyone building a nuke is exaggerated but still far too many people appear to be capable of that than seems reasonable. I guess my point is that you shouldn't doubt human ingenuity people can be capable of surprising things. 
 
MrThe said:
Eh then the answer as to where to find a mortar building expert would be the Minutemen if they have something similar. Perhaps a missionary saw that and figured hey I could make something like that. Or hey maybe they found some history book depicting a mortar and Jerry rigged something similar. There could be countless ways someone could rediscover that technology. Are you saying that there is no way anyone could think this up? I mean gosh dang it people figured out how to build a mini nuke that is shot by a giant slingshot! That was most certainly not some pre war tech, that was something an insane person built. Not only that but it seems that just about everyone can build a nuke but no one has figured out how to build a mortar? It is one of the most simply manufactured weapon you can make! Sorry I went on a little rant. And I guess that part about everyone building a nuke is exaggerated but still far too many people appear to be capable of that than seems reasonable. I guess my point is that you shouldn't doubt human ingenuity people can be capable of surprising things. 
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The mininuke launcher was a prewar weapon. The Minutemen are also hundreds of miles away. There's little reason a book that is insanely specific about mortars would survive a nuclear apocalypse and then decades exposed to the elements and whoever wants to deface books just for fun/use them as a heat source/toilet paper. Especially in or around Salt Lake City.


A magazine called 'Patriot's Cookbook' in Fallout New Vegas is banned material for showing people how to make explosives. I think showing people how to make mortars would be similarly discouraged.
 
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Really the mini nuke was a pre war weapon? What crazy person built it! Oh look let's launch nukes just a few miles away from where we are standing and we'll be sure to get irradiated to death. As for the mortars, what if the book was from Vault 70? And that still doesn't discount that maybe someone just reinvented the mortar on their own or maybe they found a broken mortar that most people just glossed over and they figured out how to build one. I don't know like I said could be several things that let them build it.
 
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Really the mini nuke was a pre war weapon? What crazy person built it! Oh look let's launch nukes just a few miles away from where we are standing and we'll be sure to get irradiated to death. As for the mortars, what if the book was from Vault 70? And that still doesn't discount that maybe someone just reinvented the mortar on their own or maybe they found a broken mortar that most people just glossed over and they figured out how to build one. I don't know like I said could be several things that let them build it.
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Mininuke launchers don't hit really targets miles away. Plus, why would Vault Tec include a book/holotape about mortars/artillery when the U.S. government would probably combat the dissemination of this knowledge? How do you reinvent something like a mortar too? People can barely comprehend planes, referring to them as flying buses. How would someone think and then make it in a knowledge and resource deprived wasteland? And I don't know what military equipment is around Salt Lake City, but I doubt there's a mortar around, especially one that isn't basically destroyed by the elements. 
 
Why would you need or want anything more anyway? You're dealing with fireaxe brandishing, brushgun firing, .45 smg rattling White Legs. These incredibly mobile 80s. Then the Legion. Which literally wears leather football gear and normally runs at you with machetes and shoots at you with cowboy repeaters and 10mm smgs.


Power armor puts you a step up. So does access to laser and, to a lesser degree because it's rarity, plasma guns. Everybody in your faction learns as a rite of passage how to use a .45 pistol. You probably have better armor too for the rest of your forces.
 
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I guess so. But the people in power armor can't be everywhere at once and the mortar is extremely portable and can lay down some instant cover fire from basically anywhere on the battlefield. And mortars are far less complicated than a plane. But i see your point. Perhaps i could replace the mortars with some sort of unique armor. Not anything really complicated to make, more like our modern day bullet proof vests with a steel plate put in a vest made out of some sort of fabric. (not bulletproof fabric that would be hard to make) and a sort of pack too. You are right i suppose power armor and lasers are enough firepower without something never seen before in the wasteland all of a sudden poofing into existence.
 
Hey Pat do you think you are going to post something in the Main Chat to help get the RP going?
 
Too much? I figured since you had about that many it seemed a good number. I mean it's been a couple years since they came out of that vault and a vault could hold about twice that many so I figured that they probably grew in population a bit especially considering that they had 3 GECKs. But if you think it's too much then I could scale it down a bit.
 
Hey guys do you think we ought to start posting stuff for the actual RP? I started us off but i didn't see anyone else post something.
 
MrThe said:
Hey guys do you think we ought to start posting stuff for the actual RP? I started us off but i didn't see anyone else post something.
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No. Not at all, while I see no issue with planning them out yourself It should always be up to he creator (In my opinion) to post the first post, often adding an introduction to the RP and possibly introducing us all to new events and possibly giving us issues we need to deal with. In my opinion the first post should be up to the OP and allow the rest to have an idea of a format should there be one.
 
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