Tikor
One Thousand Club
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What's the start of an epic without a little friendly blackmail, eh?
What's the start of an epic without a little friendly blackmail, eh?
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Where's an Eclipse for a little oath sanctifying when you need one?Tikor said:.
What's the start of an epic without a little friendly blackmail, eh?
Yeah, you totally destroyed Noisy Cricket's post about Solars not cheating.kaliket said:Also, did I just edit someone else's post?
Just as a quick primer, what's the difference mechanically between having, say, a -5 external penalty, difficulty 1 task, and a difficulty 6 task without an external penalty? Is there one? I assume it's simply a way to throttle the epic scale of the action involved?Tikor said:Just want to make sure everybody's clear on penalties, they can be confusing:
-x internal penalty means you lose dice before you roll them. Multiple action penalties are internal penalties.
-x external penalty means you lose successes after you've rolled the dice. There have been several examples in play already. It basically means the task is harder due to external circumstances.
If you have no charms that interact with penalties, then no there is no difference. If you do, then this is a big deal since you could do one thing and not another. I expand on your example with Salty Dog Method (p.236 Core) with some additions in []Wyuli said:Just as a quick primer, what's the difference mechanically between having, say, a -5 external penalty, difficulty 1 task, and a difficulty 6 task without an external penalty? Is there one?
Wyuli said:ie. Making a sandwich (difficulty 1 task) from a ship's snapped-off crow's nest that's caught in the riggings and swinging around wildly in a driving rainstorm while dodging flaming arrows from expert marksmen while making sure to alternate layers of slick and solid ingredients (-5 external penalty). [An Essence 5 Solar with Salty Dog Method up could roll his (lower of Dexterity, Perception, Intelligence) + Craft (Water) at a difficulty 1 to make this sandwich. He negates the -5 external penalty via his charm.]
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Making a sandwich [on a ship with no penalties whatsoever via calm seas, heavy boat, midday ect.] that is so delicious that the god of all sandwiches shows up on your doorstep [after you sacrifice it via burning it while chanting his name to get mad bonuses to your prayer roll] to have a picnic. (difficulty 6 task). [salty Dog Method does not aid the Essence 5 Solar here even though he is on a ship because no penalties are involved. The Charm that trivialized his roll above isn't even worth the Essence here]